Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: AstaLaVista on November 29, 2007, 08:59:38 am
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My water is a week and a half old. There has been a moderate bather load( I think ) After each use I have put dichlor in till I get a reading between 3-5ppm. And shock with MPS once a week. When testing my water last night my TA and PH along with all else was just right. Last night when I put my cover back it looked a little hazy. I shocked it last night with Dichlor... after the 20min. I checked the FAC it was at 5ppm. This morning my water is clear... but the only way to discribe it is dull.... what gives?? My filters are brand new... the water couldn't have that much soap in it already.. and I do use enzyme weekly. I have the Fresh water III package in my HS. Any ideas what the problem could be? :-/
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What is your CC reading? And you mentioned 'shocking' your water with dichlor and having a reading of 5ppm. This is not shocking. Shocking, I believe, is when your FC reaches 10 times your CC reading. Or using apporixmately 7 times your usual dose of dichlor.
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Okay.. I guess my bad... I used an ounce of Dichlor ( that is what dealership said I should use to shock with Dichlor ) So it isn't the amount so much as how high of a PPM your getting?
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I would think an ounce (2 tbl spoons) would bring your FC much higher than 5 - probably more in the line of 10 ppm FC. Maybe another shock would be in order.
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Thats what I was thinking.. when I get home from "work" tonight I will shock it again to see if I get a better reading.
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Also, how are you testing - Taylor type kit, or test strip. I use Taylor kit, I hear old test strips can give bad readings.
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But does a dull look really mean anything? I don't know myself.
So long as I have santized water that maintains a balanced water chemistry, I don't really worry about how crisp or dull the water looks.
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I like crystal clear crisp water... that the lights dance off of at night... I don't want to feel like I am sitting in a washing machine with murky water... even if it is clean murky water... lol I guess it is a personal opinion... but true solo.. I shouldn't loose too much sleep over it... other wise I could miss out on all the stress relief the tub gives me. lol
Birdman I am using test strips .. but they are brand new.. don't know if that makes a difference.
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I would spring for a Taylor test kit for the increased accuracy. Not sure if the strips have an experation date, but could have sat on the shelf awhile - the same is true for the re-agents in the Taylor kit - they will degrade over time as well.
I'm like you, i think the water should be crystal clear, especially being that new.
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My water is a week and a half old. There has been a moderate bather load( I think ) After each use I have put dichlor in till I get a reading between 3-5ppm. And shock with MPS once a week. When testing my water last night my TA and PH along with all else was just right. Last night when I put my cover back it looked a little hazy. I shocked it last night with Dichlor... after the 20min. I checked the FAC it was at 5ppm. This morning my water is clear... but the only way to discribe it is dull.... what gives?? My filters are brand new... the water couldn't have that much soap in it already.. and I do use enzyme weekly. I have the Fresh water III package in my HS. Any ideas what the problem could be? :-/
OK, this happens to me sometimes...when your water looks dull (not cloudy) and sanitizer and/or filtering just doesn't seem to get it crystal clear......add 2 oz of clarifier. I use Leisure Time Bright and Clear but any good spa clarifier will do.
I am not an advocate of using clarifiers on a regular basis or even when water is cloudy because that generally means more sanitizer is needed, but this is exactly the situation where clarifiers work wonders.
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I was told that use of a clarifier with Silver Ion creates Cloudy water?? That is the only reason why I have avoided it.
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I use a clarifier once in awhile and it keeps it clean.
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I was told that use of a clarifier with Silver Ion creates Cloudy water?? That is the only reason why I have avoided it.
I've never had an issue and I used both popular silver cartridges for years. Leisure Time sells a mineral cartridge and include their clarifier in their weekly maintenance routine. Overuse of clarifiers can cause cloudy water with or without the minerals. I don't personally believe in using clarifiers regualarly...but your situation is ideal for the use. If you're nervous about using it with the silver, take the cartridge out for a couple of days after you add clarifier.
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Funny you mention this. I just used clarifier for the first time today. I don't mind the water looking dull, but when you are going to show your new hot tub off to family (like I am doing this wekeend), you do want the water to look crisp.
So I added some clarifier today. At first, the water got a little cloudy. But after an hour or so of filtration, it looked crisp and clean. I won't make a habit of using it. In fact, I bummed the clarifier from a neighbor of mine and don't own any.
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I shocked it one more time last night... and this AM my water looked crisp and clean. I do have a bottle of clarifier... and in the future may try that as well. I was under the impression I couldn't... thank you for the help
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Also remember that test strips need to be handled very carefully to keep them working correctly. No moisture at all and no oils from your hands as you pull the strips out of the container. Another reason for getting a Taylor kit. ;)
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Yeah, I think I may break down and get the Taylor kit... is that something that can be used in my pool too???
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Yeah, I think I may break down and get the Taylor kit... is that something that can be used in my pool too???
Yes...Yes...Yes...
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Filtration is a big one that may be getting overlooked here. Does your tub have a 24 hour circulation pump? Does it kick on and off to filter and if so have you tried upping the number of times your pump comes on?
Also, a high pH can cause water to become hazy. Hot tubs do have a tendancy to run high on pH due to the hotter water temps.
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I have a 24 hour circ pump... its a Hot springs Vista.. with brand new filters... so I don't think that is the problem.. my ph seems to be with in a normal range... water is clear now.. I am thinking I just wasn't using enough dichlor?? I guess. :-/
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I have a 24 hour circ pump... its a Hot springs Vista.. with brand new filters... so I don't think that is the problem.. my ph seems to be with in a normal range... water is clear now.. I am thinking I just wasn't using enough dichlor?? I guess. :-/
I'm guessing your sanitizer level is just dropping on you.
As far as the clarifier and silver ions, don't mix them. The risk you run is coating the silver ions so they no longer sanitize.
By the way, are you using well water or is it treated city water? just curious.
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Well Water. Why?