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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Bluewater on November 18, 2007, 03:48:48 pm

Title: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bluewater on November 18, 2007, 03:48:48 pm
I couldn't find my old login information, so I registered again.

It has been at least a year since my last visit here. But you all were very helpful when I was searching for a hot tub, and then again after we bought it.

Sadly, my wife and I wish to sell of 2006 Marquis Retreat. We just don't use it enough to justify keeping it any longer. The unit is in excellent condition and works like new.

I have it listed on Craigs List, but just can't get a bite on it. It has been listed several times and I've lowered the price to $2750, after starting at $3300. Is $2750 too high? We paid $4500 a few years ago. Do they lose value so much that $1750 off the price we paid is still not enough?

I really need to sell this, but don't want to get burned too bad. So am I out of line asking $2750?

Thank you.

Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Ruby on November 18, 2007, 06:46:53 pm
I'm sorry to hear it's not working out for you.  I sold my Marquis SA Reward a couple years ago on craigslist so I could buy the Epic.  I only had 1 bite and they were the ones who bought it.  Some suggestions for you:

1. Be sure to post pictures (personally, I never look at an ad without one)

2. Is it still under warranty? Be sure to mention that the warranty is transferable (Marquis is one of the few that do this and it's a huge selling point) and when the time comes, your dealer will tell you (or the buyer)how.

3. Call the dealer and find out if they know someone who will move to the buyers location and find out how much it will cost.  Reveal this in your ad. Maybe say you have a professional to move it for xxx.xx
(I called the guys who delivered mine and they charged 200.00)

4. Does it still have water in it? People like to see it up and running.  Maybe in the ad you can say "bring your suit and wet test it"

5. Have you asked your dealer about the possibility of selling on consignment?

6. When I sold mine, I called and asked my dealer how much I should ask-he said it depreciates about 1000.00/year, but that was 2 years ago. I think I paid 8900.00ish and asked 6500.00 and took 6200.00-note: I told the buyer either cash or cashiers check

If I think of anything else, I'll let you know

Good Luck
Ruby
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: IlliniFan on November 18, 2007, 08:04:04 pm
where are you located.  I have a friend looking.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bluewater on November 18, 2007, 11:32:43 pm
1. Be sure to post pictures (personally, I never look at an ad without one)

Yes, I have posted pictures as well as added extra pictures via photobucket
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc243/marquisspa/

2. Is it still under warranty? Be sure to mention that the warranty is transferable (Marquis is one of the few that do this and it's a huge selling point) and when the time comes, your dealer will tell you (or the buyer)how

Yes, I did this as well in the ad.

3. Call the dealer and find out if they know someone who will move to the buyers location and find out how much it will cost.  Reveal this in your ad. Maybe say you have a professional to move it for xxx.xx
(I called the guys who delivered mine and they charged 200.00)

My dealer is none too interested in helping do anything. I think he just likes to sell new ones.


4. Does it still have water in it? People like to see it up and running.  Maybe in the ad you can say "bring your suit and wet test it"

Has water, but didn't say anything about test driving.


5. Have you asked your dealer about the possibility of selling on consignment?

See above

6. When I sold mine, I called and asked my dealer how much I should ask-he said it depreciates about 1000.00/year, but that was 2 years ago. I think I paid 8900.00ish and asked 6500.00 and took 6200.00-note: I told the buyer either cash or cashiers check

This is how I came about my price range, and he said $3300 is a VERY fair price.

Thanks for all your thoughts. I appreciate it!

Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bluewater on November 18, 2007, 11:36:24 pm
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where are you located.  I have a friend looking.


I will PM you.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bluewater on November 21, 2007, 12:41:30 am
I thought there were Marquis dealers on this forum, if so can they help me out here?

Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: golferm on November 21, 2007, 12:19:18 pm
Typically you can get about 50% of the current retail price for a tub 1-3 years old.  3-5 years, about 40%.  That's been my experience anyway.  (I've sold 3 tubs privately)

You may be able to get slightly more with the transferable warranty, however, do you have the traditional marquis warranty with that tub? (many manufacturers only offer their premium warranty with their top line tubs)



Mark
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bluewater on November 22, 2007, 01:36:56 am
So I am not being unreasonable in my asking price. This is the right time of the season I would think. I just don't know. I've listed it 5 times, re-worded, changed pictures, lowered the price...... Maybe I'll just give it away.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Spatech_tuo on November 22, 2007, 02:49:19 am
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So I am not being unreasonable in my asking price. This is the right time of the season I would think. I just don't know. I've listed it 5 times, re-worded, changed pictures, lowered the price...... Maybe I'll just give it away.

I would say you're probably $500 to $750 high based on what I think you can get. You could take your time and see.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bluewater on November 22, 2007, 10:50:27 pm
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I would say you're probably $500 to $750 high based on what I think you can get. You could take your time and see.


Ya know, that is a sad commentary on hot tubs, that they can't even hold half their value after only 2 years.

Had I known this spa would be worthless I would have never bought it. I know I'll never buy another one.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Spatech_tuo on November 23, 2007, 02:31:17 am
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Ya know, that is a sad commentary on hot tubs, that they can't even hold half their value after only 2 years.

Had I known this spa would be worthless I would have never bought it. I know I'll never buy another one.

Give it try and get what you can but its just a matter of putting yourself in the consumer's position. Just like cars they depreciate most the first couple years so the key is to own them more than 2 years.

How much would you pay if you were looking compared to buying new?
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bluewater on November 24, 2007, 01:32:46 am
I do understand what you all are telling me. I just had no idea these spas lose so much value.

I went by my dealer today and asked him what he would sell it for if he had it in his showroom. He thought he'd mark it at $3000, and offer no warranty other than what was left on the original warranty.

So I made him an offer, I bring the spa to his store, he sells it for whatever he can get for it and I'd give him 25 %. he said no, he didn't "have the time". I feel like setting fire to it and being done.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Cyn on November 24, 2007, 10:17:39 am
Wow, you really, really don't want to wait.  Most people take longer than this to sell a car!!  I think some of the reason it is hard to sell a used hot tub is because you need to have it transported and that is a big deal.  When you buy new the transportation is built in along with a the warranty and dealer relationship for getting it repaired, etc.  After reading all the info on this forum, it would be hard for me to trust a used hot tub for a lot of reasons.  And I have always felt you really have to want a hot tub to put in the money for electrical hookup and an area to put it and because of the good sized learning curve involved in maintenance.  The market might be better for someone that has had a tub and wants to upgrade and not pay the higher price of a new one.  I am sorry you feel stuck with yours.  Holding the price for resale is based on a lot of issues.  With a car, well, the population sees one as a necessity...not so with a hot tub.  Good luck.  
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bluewater on November 24, 2007, 12:44:01 pm
Wow, you really, really don't want to wait.  Most people take longer than this to sell a car!!

-I've been trying to sell it for 6 months.-




I think some of the reason it is hard to sell a used hot tub is because you need to have it transported and that is a big deal.


-I've advertised it saying I would deliver it, set it up, and balance the chems, give them 1 year of chems._



When you buy new the transportation is built in along with a the warranty and dealer relationship for getting it repaired, etc.  After reading all the info on this forum, it would be hard for me to trust a used hot tub for a lot of reasons.  


- I understand that, but this hot tub still has a warranty and is being sold at 1/2 cost-



And I have always felt you really have to want a hot tub to put in the money for electrical hookup and an area to put it and because of the good sized learning curve involved in maintenance.

- This hot tub runs on 110v as well as 220v-



The market might be better for someone that has had a tub and wants to upgrade and not pay the higher price of a new one.  I am sorry you feel stuck with yours.  Holding the price for resale is based on a lot of issues.  With a car, well, the population sees one as a necessity...not so with a hot tub.  Good luck.

- Goos points. I don't feel "stuck", just disappointed that I can't seem to sale this thing.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Mendocino101 on November 24, 2007, 01:26:14 pm
Forgive me for being blunt but you sound so sour, if this is your personality why would anyone want to purchase anything from you. If a person came to this board and read your posts not only would they not want a spa they may give up bathing in water all together.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Mendocino101 on November 24, 2007, 01:28:13 pm
And if you really want to burn it than why not donate it to charity, take a tax write off or drop your price to grand to move it quickly.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bluewater on November 24, 2007, 02:23:52 pm
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And if you really want to burn it than why not donate it to charity, take a tax write off or drop your price to grand to move it quickly.


Issue solved!!!


I just sold it for $500 to a guy down the road, and he is going to pick it up as well!

Oh HAPPY DAY!

Shoot, I just added up the chemicals I had (20 Spa Frog bromine cartridges and 13 mineral cartridges alone) and it added up to over $700. Plus I found 3 unused filters and a light that changes colors that I never installed.

Lesson learned. I lost a few dollars, but so what, money always comes and goes.



Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Mendocino101 on November 24, 2007, 02:31:44 pm
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Issue solved!!!


I just sold it for $500 to a guy down the road, and he is going to pick it up as well!

Oh HAPPY DAY!

Shoot, I just added up the chemicals I had (20 Spa Frog bromine cartridges and 13 mineral cartridges alone) and it added up to over $700. Plus I found 3 unused filters and a light that changes colors that I never installed.

Lesson learned. I lost a few dollars, but so what, money always comes and goes.




yeah but you saved a few matchsticks so maybe in the long run you came out ahead... ;)
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bonibelle on November 24, 2007, 02:38:59 pm
Forgive this stupid question but why did you have such a stash of cartridges? Wow!!!I never keep more than about 4 or 5 Bromine cartridges and a mineral cartridge on hand...you must have got a great deal on all those chems...

You should feel good though, you just gave someone a real nice Christmas present... ;) One man's trash is another's treasure! :)
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bluewater on November 24, 2007, 03:02:28 pm
I just go overboard when I buy things like this. I had extra money so I think I bought 4 or 5 cases of each Spa Frog product. I went out yesterday to buy an HD television and came home with 4 of them.

The guy and his son are loading it now. I am going to go out and give him his check back. Just to see the look in his eyes.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Mendocino101 on November 24, 2007, 03:10:38 pm
Hey that is great to be in a position to do that. I am sure you appreciate how fortunate you are.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bonibelle on November 24, 2007, 03:21:04 pm
Make him really happy, throw in one of those HDTV's ;) ;D
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bluewater on November 24, 2007, 03:23:58 pm
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Hey that is great to be in a position to do that. I am sure you appreciate how fortunate you are.


Yes I do. do not take anything for granted. I did at one time and about lost my family. I am far from being a rich person. But I do have enough material things that I can share. The man refused to accept his check back. So I am keeping it. I am not giving it to charity either  :)
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Mendocino101 on November 24, 2007, 03:33:23 pm
Whatever works for you. I hope he gets many happy and soothing soaks from it. Happy Holidays to you Mr. Bluewater
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Zep on November 25, 2007, 12:45:17 am
Bluewater.....did you say this is a 2006 model?

Jezzzz if that is a 2006 the side panels really deterioted rather quickly.

That thing looks much older.

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc243/marquisspa/img_0587.jpg?t=1195969212)


Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: tony on November 25, 2007, 11:11:02 am
That looks like an unfinished wood cabinet.  If so, it looks in great condition and some stain (Super Deck) will make it look like new....but it should have been finished right away.  The good news is the new owners can finish with whatever color they like.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bluewater on November 25, 2007, 12:49:36 pm
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Bluewater.....did you say this is a 2006 model?

Jezzzz if that is a 2006 the side panels really deterioted rather quickly.

That thing looks much older.

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc243/marquisspa/img_0587.jpg?t=1195969212)




I had just washed it for the pictures and it was not fully dried at the top where the cover meets the tub
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Gomboman on November 25, 2007, 01:36:03 pm
Wow, are you serious? Somebody got your Marquis for $500? What a steal. Tell them about our forum if you talk to them again.

Just one question. Are you Mr. Bluewater or Mrs. Bluewater. You deleted the post about your stage name.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bluewater on November 25, 2007, 02:08:56 pm
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Wow, are you serious? Somebody got your Marquis for $500? What a steal. Tell them about our forum if you talk to them again.

Just one question. Are you Mr. Bluewater or Mrs. Bluewater. You deleted the post about your stage name.

It depends on if I post of my hubby does  ;D

He is a stinker to say the least.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: ndabunka on November 25, 2007, 02:33:08 pm
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Issue solved!!!

I just sold it for $500 to a guy down the road, and he is going to pick it up as well!

Oh HAPPY DAY!

Shoot, I just added up the chemicals I had (20 Spa Frog bromine cartridges and 13 mineral cartridges alone) and it added up to over $700. Plus I found 3 unused filters and a light that changes colors that I never installed.

Lesson learned. I lost a few dollars, but so what, money always comes and goes.


I always wonder why people go overboard on things.  You "should" have realized over the 6 months that you were asking too much.  In reality, that may have only have been a few hundred too much.  Most used tubs go for about 50% of what they cost new NO MATTER the age of the tub (as long as it's less than 8 years old).

Hot tubs are personal use items (unlike cars) and many have problems buying such a product used and this is simply one of the reasons that few people buy these used.  Also, craiglist isn't as good as a local paper for value.  Online systems like eBay and Craigslist are fine for WHOLESALING stuff (like cars) but they are TERRIBLE for private party transactions (like selling a hot tub or getting "market private party rates" for used cars)

I can only hope that you got a LOT more than $500 for your $2K value tub...  :-?
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Bluewater on November 25, 2007, 02:52:28 pm
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I always wonder why people go overboard on things.  You "should" have realized over the 6 months that you were asking too much.  In reality, that may have only have been a few hundred too much.  Most used tubs go for about 50% of what they cost new NO MATTER the age of the tub (as long as it's less than 8 years old).

Hot tubs are personal use items (unlike cars) and many have problems buying such a product used and this is simply one of the reasons that few people buy these used.  Also, craiglist isn't as good as a local paper for value.  Online systems like eBay and Craigslist are fine for WHOLESALING stuff (like cars) but they are TERRIBLE for private party transactions (like selling a hot tub or getting "market private party rates" for used cars)

I can only hope that you got a LOT more than $500 for your $2K value tub...  :-?


I sold it for $500. Whats the big deal. It is my hot tub isn't it? I did a man a favor by allowing him to buy something that he prbly couldn't afford. He is happy and I am happy. I am so sorry if you are not happy. I will ask you next time ok?

PS - My family has bought/sold tons of things on eBay and Craigslist with great success. So you can't generalize because you can't speak for me.
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: Gomboman on November 25, 2007, 08:51:54 pm
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I always wonder why people go overboard on things.  You "should" have realized over the 6 months that you were asking too much.  In reality, that may have only have been a few hundred too much.  Most used tubs go for about 50% of what they cost new NO MATTER the age of the tub (as long as it's less than 8 years old).

Hot tubs are personal use items (unlike cars) and many have problems buying such a product used and this is simply one of the reasons that few people buy these used.  Also, craiglist isn't as good as a local paper for value.  Online systems like eBay and Craigslist are fine for WHOLESALING stuff (like cars) but they are TERRIBLE for private party transactions (like selling a hot tub or getting "market private party rates" for used cars)

I can only hope that you got a LOT more than $500 for your $2K value tub...  :-?

I have to disagree with you ndabunka with Craigslist. I know a few people who got great deals on used tubs from Craigslist. I also just bought a used Weber BBQ for $35--it sold for $400 new. I agree that ebay isn't the greatest source for similar items.  :)
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: ndabunka on November 26, 2007, 12:49:13 am
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I have to disagree with you ndabunka with Craigslist. I know a few people who got great deals on used tubs from Craigslist. I also just bought a used Weber BBQ for $35--it sold for $400 new. I agree that ebay isn't the greatest source for similar items.  :)

Gombo - Your actually agreeing with me   :)  All I said was that it was not a great place to SELL a tub.  As you said, it is a great place to BUY a tub (at a great discount).  In order to make as much as possible in his resale, I said he needed to try other sources first (or simply agree to take the lower wholesale for his craigslisted tub)
Title: Re: Selling Marquis Hot Tub
Post by: ndabunka on November 26, 2007, 12:51:51 am
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I sold it for $500. Whats the big deal. It is my hot tub isn't it? I did a man a favor by allowing him to buy something that he prbly couldn't afford. He is happy and I am happy. I am so sorry if you are not happy. I will ask you next time ok?

PS - My family has bought/sold tons of things on eBay and Craigslist with great success. So you can't generalize because you can't speak for me.

Hey, you were the one on here complaining that you couldn't get the higher price and then you appear to have taken a "knee jerk" reaction and simply dumped it (Good for your neighbor though).  I really have no problem with you doing anything you want.  In fact, I'm shopping for a 2005 S55 with under 40K miles.  Market price is around $50K but I'd like to pay less and figure you might be able to help me out.  Got one around?  I've got $500.00 right here in my pocket and I am more than willing to come pick it up...    :D