Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: wmccall on September 26, 2007, 04:02:57 pm
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For those of you who are still shopping, vote if you would or would not visit a dealer more than 40 miles away.
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My manufacturer believes that 25 miles is the fartherest distance a person will drive to purchase a hot tub. So retail stores are not closer than 25 miles, seems fair enough. At home shows distance is irrelevant, it doesn't seem to matter to the buyer. People at home shows expect you to travel the distances required to do whatever it takes to keep them happy. hope that helps.....but it is a 8k dollar investment.......be happy and if that takes traveling that is what it takes....tom...come see us at the Orlando Home Show this weekend.....a reasonable trip charge will apply to buyers in other states......good day
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So retail stores are not closer than 25 miles, seems fair enough.
That would put a dealer no further than 12-1/2 miles away ;)
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My Cal Spa dealer is about 22 miles away from my house.
http://www.calspas.com/press/hot_tub_and_spa_award~pool_and_spa~5331.htm
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That would put a dealer no further than 12-1/2 miles away ;)
That is assuming you lie in the line directly between the 2 stores which are 25 miles apart; you are thinking one dimensionally.
If you created a grid and placed a store every 25 miles in both the X and Y direction you could live in the center between 4 stores and you would be 17.7 miles away from each of them. ;) ;)
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Are you doing that grid 2 dimensionally, or or your taking into account topography?
You're also, I believe laying out the stores in a square pattern, 25 miles apart. If you lay them out in a triangular pattern, you'd then have all customers even closer than 12-1/2 miles, and still the stores would be 25 miles apart.
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Mine is 7 miles as the buzzard glides.
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Are you doing that grid 2 dimensionally, or or your taking into account topography?
You're also, I believe laying out the stores in a square pattern, 25 miles apart. If you lay them out in a triangular pattern, you'd then have all customers even closer than 12-1/2 miles, and still the stores would be 25 miles apart.
I was obviously laying out stores in Kansas where it's flat and everything is on a square grid!! I just layed it out on a triangular grid with stores 25 miles apart at the end points of an equilateral and you can be 17.7 miles away from the closest store.
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12, 15, 25, and 40 miles. They have 4 locations. 8-)
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Kansas? Is there a population large enough to support more than 2 stores there (even if you count Toto)? I was working with equilateral triangles and the hills of northern California.
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Bill, you're a mind reader. I was going to start this exact same poll today.
I just read a web site for a dealer that "guaranteed the best price within a 300 square mile area". A little high school geometry says that their area means "within 10 miles of our store". Considering that few manufacturers have competing dealers within 10 miles of each other, I think they're safe.
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from my house to the dealer would take me about 46 hours to get there. NH to WA. it's about 3200 miles
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My dealer is alllllllllll the way across town. Which is about 2.5 miles. :)
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sorry...it is a radial 25 miles.......good day
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My manufacturer believes that 25 miles is the fartherest distance a person will drive to purchase a hot tub. So retail stores are not closer than 25 miles, seems fair enough.
Do most manufacturers have a limit like this?
I'm just curious because most of the major brands (the Watkins brands, and Jacuzzi/Sundance) are on the same street, in a city 22 miles from me that's in another county. I'm curious as to whether any of these brands would let me open a store.
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Do most manufacturers have a limit like this?
I'm just curious because most of the major brands (the Watkins brands, and Jacuzzi/Sundance) are on the same street, in a city 22 miles from me that's in another county. I'm curious as to whether any of these brands would let me open a store.
Its not just about distance, population is a big key as well. They may be pretty well spread out in Idaho and faily close in Chicago. The key is to have enough stores to cover the area properly without choking off your own dealers (and upsetting them).
As far as Jacuzzi/Sundance goes, they may be made by the same company but they are separate competing brands in teh market so to see them on the same street is really no different than seeing a Marquis a block away from a D1.
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As far as Jacuzzi/Sundance goes, they may be made by the same company but they are separate competing brands in teh market so to see them on the same street is really no different than seeing a Marquis a block away from a D1.
Actually, there's one store that sells Jacuzzi & Sundance, and another that sells all the Watkins brands along with a few others. So, you can look at Hot Spring, Tiger River, Caldera, Hot Spot, Cal Spas, Jacuzzi, Sundance, Sunbelt, and Nordic while pretty much parked in the same place. It sure makes for convenient shopping!
There are a few other dealers (Catalina & Master) in other parts of town, but the others that come & go are on that street. The funny thing is most other brands that try to make a go of it end up on the same street too- I guess they figure that's where all the spa shoppers are. I just think it's a little odd that in a city of a million people you're going to go to one part of one street to buy a hot tub.
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Most brands restrict entire TOWNs and sometimes counties. Around here, it is unlikely that you will find a second dealer (of same brand) in the same town and often you must drive 3 hours away (120 miles+). This helps the mfg's protect the dealers in those areas from getting "undercut" by their "neighbor". However, it still happens and that is usually when the pissing contest starts...."I didn't sell you the spa...Customer: Yea, I bought it from Henry because he was $200 cheaper...Dealer: Well that was fine, let Henry service your spa.....Customer (More pissed off now): I would but he wants a $75 trip charge, you wouldn't sharge me for a warranty service, would you?.....Dealer: Well, not if you had bought it here....Customer: Well, I'm pissed he wants to charge me so I'd rather pay you... Dealer: Sorry, I won't service it as I don't know anything about it.....Customer: WHAT THE F....."
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Ok, I started this thread as a good natured poke at our friends at Arctic. For along time their website would only tell you if a retail store was located within 40 miles of you. If may have been at my suggestion, but they updated it to where if there wasn't a dealer within 40 miles, their customer service would email you the closest location. I can kind of see the logic and why the individual retailers might want it that way. The last time I checked, the closest retailer was around 100 miles away in a part of Ohio I don't frequent. Tom, is that still the case for Columbus, Ohio - 43229?
I've been in this forum for almost 5 years now and even after I bought my tub I've taken the time to vist and examine almost every major brand. But I think Arctic is the only of the perceived top brands I haven't had the pleasure to look at.
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My dealer's closest location is 35 miles away that takes just over an hour (or 45 miles that takes 50 minutes by a different route).
The closest dealer for my brand is about 7 miles away, but we really don't like this guy.
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Ok, I started this thread as a good natured poke at our friends at Arctic. For along time their website would only tell you if a retail store was located within 40 miles of you. If may have been at my suggestion, but they updated it to where if there wasn't a dealer within 40 miles, their customer service would email you the closest location.
I know they won't send you a brochure if you're not within a dealer's territory. They're one of several brands (including Artesian and Marquis) who won't send me any literature because there's no dealer nearby.
I like brochures. Until I get Artesian, Marquis, and Arctic, my collection will be incomplete. :'(
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It may have been at my suggestion...
It was, and I thank you again. Our US dealer network is growing steadily (added another one last week in CA, one this week in ID) but it may be a few years before we have the kind of coverage we'd like. We still don't have a dealer within 40 miles of you.
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It was, and I thank you again. Our US dealer network is growing steadily (added another one last week in CA, one this week in ID) but it may be a few years before we have the kind of coverage we'd like. We still don't have a dealer within 40 miles of you.
The next trip I plan, I'll email you ahead of time. I'd love to take a look. We went to Dayton a couple of weeks ago, but without notice. I took a business trip to Waterloo Iowas a couple of weeks ago, but if they have a dealer and we don't, I'll be seriously offended! ;D
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My dealer is 2 miles away.
I would not personally travel 40 miles for a dealer, but then again living within 20 miles of both DC & Baltimore we have at least 10-15 spa dealers within a 20 mile radius ;D.
I guess everything is relative though, if I was further out in the burb's I might think differently. ;)