Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: 2 8 on September 24, 2007, 10:00:30 pm
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I thought it would be nice to have a thread like this going
http://www.poolspaforum.com/forum/index.php?s=e12265ed812d5b82f9f64d520efc6969&showtopic=5417&st=0&p=24294&#entry24294
in my search for a hot tub it has been very hard to determine what a fair price is for a specific tub.
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http://www.poolspaforum.com/forum/index.php?s=e12265ed812d5b82f9f64d520efc6969&showtopic=5417&st=0&p=24294&#entry24294
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Thats the thread I just posted. I was hoping for some prices from people on this forum unless its all the same people on that forum?
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2 8- I think Chad was just making it so that your thread was an active link that could be clicked on. ;)
Tyhee
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gotchya.
anyway, I'll start out the thread with pricing that I have gotten.
2007 Tiger River Sumatran with cover, cover lift, ozone, stairs - $5800 asking price. Should be gotten for less.
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I think it's a great concept as long as people understand it. Spamaster made a great post about that.
Dealers have different business costs, overhead, buying habits, volume purchase discounts and so on. Many owners have no concept of gross profit or how to properly determine profit margins. By taking a given number into a dealer and assuming that all dealers can sell it at that price would be a mistake.
There's a quick sale and then there's after sale service. I believe there's value to having a dealer that's going to be around to service you even though it doesn't show on your invoice at the time...
I think there should a section at the top that consumers can link to to get this valuable information. There just needs to be a prelude to it outlining the aforementioned.
Steve
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I think it's a great concept as long as people understand it. Spamaster made a great post about that.
Dealers have different business costs, overhead, buying habits, volume purchase discounts and so on. Many owners have no concept of gross profit or how to properly determine profit margins. By taking a given number into a dealer and assuming that all dealers can sell it at that price would be a mistake.
There's a quick sale and then there's after sale service. I believe there's value to having a dealer that's going to be around to service you even though it doesn't show on your invoice at the time...
I think there should a section at the top that consumers can link to to get this valuable information. There just needs to be a prelude to it outlining the aforementioned.
Steve
agreed. This thread should just be about what people were quoted and what people pay. I'm sure everyone agrees that prices vary throughout depending on service and area. I Just want a thread where people can get a general idea. Most dealers don't have any prices listed and kind of keep things secret.
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I think it's a great concept as long as people understand it. Spamaster made a great post about that.
Dealers have different business costs, overhead, buying habits, volume purchase discounts and so on. Many owners have no concept of gross profit or how to properly determine profit margins. By taking a given number into a dealer and assuming that all dealers can sell it at that price would be a mistake.
There's a quick sale and then there's after sale service. I believe there's value to having a dealer that's going to be around to service you even though it doesn't show on your invoice at the time...
I think there should a section at the top that consumers can link to to get this valuable information. There just needs to be a prelude to it outlining the aforementioned.
Steve
Good point. The Moderators here should list this outline at the top of the thread as a (type) of a disclaimer and then have the pions (us posters) add our information.
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And for some degree of accuracy, it should be defined by State or Province being that landed costs play a major factor in retail pricing.
I'm not sure if this is all "dueable" but it's an interesting concept...
Steve
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5800 is less than what we sell it for.
What part of the country are you in?
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midwest, Iowa
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Ha! Me too!
Which part of Iowa? I know most of the dealers in the state.
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If this post is to be fair you need to add a few more items of info.
1. Was it a brand new unit, a floormodel, demo, last years model
2. Did it include extras or just the spa and cover? ie. cover lifter, steps, stereo, remote,
(keep in mind that cover lifters can cost from $100 - $500 so you must say what brand and model)
3. Did it come with ozone...if so what size (ozone cost from $60.00 up to $1000.)
4. Did your delivery include drop off, set up, electrical hook up, backyard orientation, weekly service for the first month, ect ect.
5. Did your spa include waterfalls, lights that change colors(if so is it just a light under the water or more lights above the water as well) Stero if so did you up grad to a subwolfer ect ect
6. Please include the year make and model #
I personaly tink this is a BAD idea. But if you people must have a pissing conest to see who gotthe "BEST DEAL" then at least dont leave out the important info
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If this post is to be fair you need to add a few more items of info.
1. Was it a brand new unit, a floormodel, demo, last years model
2. Did it include extras or just the spa and cover? ie. cover lifter, steps, stereo, remote,
(keep in mind that cover lifters can cost from $100 - $500 so you must say what brand and model)
3. Did it come with ozone...if so what size (ozone cost from $60.00 up to $1000.)
4. Did your delivery include drop off, set up, electrical hook up, backyard orientation, weekly service for the first month, ect ect.
5. Did your spa include waterfalls, lights that change colors(if so is it just a light under the water or more lights above the water as well) Stero if so did you up grad to a subwolfer ect ect
6. Please include the year make and model #
I personaly tink this is a BAD idea. But if you people must have a pissing conest to see who gotthe "BEST DEAL" then at least dont leave out the important info
Why do people need to include theses things?
As i understand the title of the thread its just a price tracker for Spa's.
If people want to include them thats fine.
And it doesn't seem like a pissing contest, it's just letting people know what type of deal they got which seems very useful to me as im sure others on this board.
Sorry if it puts some Dealers in a bad possession but its part of doing business.
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Why do people need to include theses things?
If you say you got an Optima for $9k and I say I got the same spa for $9500 from the same store who got the better deal? Sounds like I won out but:
-Maybe mine was also $9k until I added ozone and a lifter, sounds pretty equal.
-Maybe yours was a wet floor model but had ozone and a stereo; maybe better deal for you.
-Maybe I got a stereo added and you didn't; maybe I got the better deal.
...and we're not even getting into the difference between what a dealer sells a spa for in Wash DC versus what a dealer may sell the EXACT same spa for in Idaho.
If you want to come up with some comparison chart there are quite a few things you'd want to add into the matrix to be checked off if you really want usable data.
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To help keep this on a level playing field. Please do NOT include taxes in your "purchase price" as they are different in EVERY state and as you may have seen, some don't pay them at all. Case in point is the CONSISTANT "pissing" on the car forums. One guy will say he got it for $30K and then doesn't provide details. Guy #2 says " I got mine for $31K OTD (Out the door). Now, he thinks he's won because HIS state taxes were something like 8% and he's done his calculations in reverse to assure himself HE gott he best deal but then poster #1 comes back and says "My $30K was OTD as well" (He happens to live in a state with no sales tax (or got a "perscription" or whatever). The DETAILS are the MOST important aspect of this thread. They do not change. Here are my details:
$6,500 (before taxes) 2003 Jacuzzi J-370 (480gallons with lounger, CD Ozonator, Cover, Stereo). At the time, this was an AWESOME deal. I was this particular site's FIRST Jacuzzi sale.