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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: solo on September 21, 2007, 04:02:49 pm

Title: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: solo on September 21, 2007, 04:02:49 pm
I made an offer on a hot tub today to my Hotsprings dealer.  He is selling the Envoy for $8900.  I offered $8000 cash offer.

He's getting back to me.

If he takes it, I'll be the proud owner of an Envoy.  If he doesn't, onward to Caldera, Jacuzzi, and Bullfrog.  
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: East_TX_Spa on September 21, 2007, 04:21:21 pm
The Envoy is my favorite.  I hope you get one...you will enjoy it immensely!

Terminator
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Richs100 on September 21, 2007, 04:24:20 pm
My Envoy is great!  You're going for a nice tub.
Hope your offer works out.

Rich
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: solo on September 21, 2007, 04:45:38 pm
Well, it didn't work out.  He countered me at $8495.   Maybe he'll change his mind.  But for now, it's on to Caldera and Bullfrog dealer.  
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on September 21, 2007, 04:57:26 pm
 You still need to try the Jacuzzi,not sure why I care, but I am interested to hear your review of it good or bad?
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: East_TX_Spa on September 21, 2007, 05:05:58 pm
It's always disappointing when you have to settle for something less... :'(

$8495 is what we sold them for back in '04.

Good luck in your continued search! :)

Term
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Steve on September 21, 2007, 05:24:33 pm
Seems like an awesome price to me!

Is that offer you made based on any real, tangable cross shopping in comparison or just a pretty round number you picked outa the air?

One day I'm gonna break code and really show these morons the TRUE cost to the dealer and the REAL profit that is made per unit. No Solo... don't ask... :-X
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Bonibelle on September 21, 2007, 05:52:06 pm
Wow I think you just walked away from quite a deal! Didn't you say your Mother would kick in a few bucks? That wouldn't have been been much to ask, $500.00, since she was willing. And you could have put all this behind you and started feeling better in your new tub.
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: solo on September 21, 2007, 05:58:25 pm
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Wow I think you just walked away from quite a deal! Didn't you say your Mother would kick in a few bucks? That wouldn't have been been much to ask, $500.00, since she was willing. And you could have put all this behind you and started feeling better in your new tub.

My original budget was $7000.  Mom offered to help me out,  but I can't bring myself to ask her for more than $1000.  I'm sure I'll find a good spa for $8000.  
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: solo on September 21, 2007, 05:59:37 pm
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You still need to try the Jacuzzi,not sure why I care, but I am interested to hear your review of it good or bad?

My Jacuzzi rep doesn't haver one wet.  She sold her floor model.  So I will try when she gets a tub in.
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: solo on September 21, 2007, 06:03:09 pm
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Seems like an awesome price to me!

Is that offer you made based on any real, tangable cross shopping in comparison or just a pretty round number you picked outa the air?

One day I'm gonna break code and really show these morons the TRUE cost to the dealer and the REAL profit that is made per unit. No Solo... don't ask... :-X

Steve, it's pretty easy.  You can't spend what you don't have.  I'm actually already $1000 over budget and gettingthagt  $1000 from my mom.  Do you know how embarrassing that is?  

So that number was the absolut max I could offer him.


Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Steve on September 21, 2007, 06:15:18 pm
Let me get the Crayons out for a sec...

[size=14]STOP LOOKING AT SPAS NOT IN YOUR PRICE RANGE AND WASTING YOUR TIME AND THEIRS!!!!!! [/size]


I thought we've been through this and you "got it"?? :-/
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: 104 degrees on September 21, 2007, 06:19:04 pm
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Well, it didn't work out.  He countered me at $8495.   Maybe he'll change his mind.  But for now, it's on to Caldera and Bullfrog dealer.  


Solo Dont be a fool for a couple of bucks. go hot springs.
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: East_TX_Spa on September 21, 2007, 06:33:28 pm
Ya know, I would like to buy a full-auto M-16 so that I can lay waste to the enemy invaders from Canada and Mexico when the time comes, but it would cost me upwards of $13K to purchase one.  So, instead, I have to make due with a semi-auto AR-15 for around $1.2K and hope that they don't all come in waves onto my property.

A man's got to realize his limitations when it comes to fundage.  You can get plenty of good spas for $7000 and put the other $1000 towards an AR-15 so that you won't become a statistic during the coming storm.

Terminator
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: solo on September 21, 2007, 06:41:20 pm
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Ya know, I would like to buy a full-auto M-16 so that I can lay waste to the enemy invaders from Canada and Mexico when the time comes, but it would cost me upwards of $13K to purchase one.  So, instead, I have to make due with a semi-auto AR-15 for around $1.2K and hope that they don't all come in waves onto my property.

A man's got to realize his limitations when it comes to fundage.  You can get plenty of good spas for $7000 and put the other $1000 towards an AR-15 so that you won't become a statistic during the coming storm.

Terminator

I'm sure I'll get a good spa.  The Envoy was the first tub that I sat in that I really wanted to buy.  There will be others.  
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: solo on September 21, 2007, 06:44:00 pm
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Let me get the Crayons out for a sec...

[size=14]STOP LOOKING AT SPAS NOT IN YOUR PRICE RANGE AND WASTING YOUR TIME AND THEIRS!!!!!! [/size]


I thought we've been through this and you "got it"?? :-/

Steve...What business is it of yours if I waste my time otr anyone elses?  Why are you so concerned?  


Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: East_TX_Spa on September 21, 2007, 06:45:01 pm
And don't forget the ABC's of buying an AR-15: Armalite, Bushmaster, and Colt.

DPMS, Rock River Arms, and Sabre Defense also make fine rifles.

Good luck and good shooting!

Terminator
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Cyn on September 21, 2007, 07:01:57 pm
As a few posters advised me once, you all need to step back, take a deep breath and move on...if you don't have anything nice to type, don't.  You guys are a hoot, but it is seriously a waste of your energy and karma...your egos are hysterical!  Everyone needs to say just one more thing...
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Richs100 on September 21, 2007, 07:04:40 pm
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As a few posters advised me once, you all need to step back, take a deep breath and move on...if you don't have anything nice to type, don't.  You guys are a hoot, but it is seriously a waste of your energy and karma...your egos are hysterical!  Everyone needs to say just one more thing...

Your wrong, Cyn.


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Cyn on September 21, 2007, 07:07:53 pm
Help me out... ;)
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: In Canada eh on September 21, 2007, 08:21:16 pm
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Ya know, I would like to buy a full-auto M-16 so that I can lay waste to the enemy invaders from Canada and Mexico when the time comes,
Terminator

Term,

Don't worry about having to spend all your money on a M-16, now that the dollar is even, the plans to invade have been put on the shelf ;)
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: D.P. Roberts on September 21, 2007, 08:35:04 pm
Dontcha need a budget for ammo too? No sense having a rifle without ammo, that's like a hot tub without water in it.
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Gomboman on September 21, 2007, 11:18:10 pm
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Well, it didn't work out.  He countered me at $8495.   Maybe he'll change his mind.  But for now, it's on to Caldera and Bullfrog dealer.  

Solo, the Envoy is one fine spa. $8495 is a killer deal. I wouldn't let $500 stand in the way of spatopia. Once you get it home the money won't be an issue. This spa will last you over ten years. I'm sure you can sock away $50 per year to make up the difference.

What do you do for a living?
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: sonofsail on September 21, 2007, 11:43:05 pm
See if they can give you a tax break to save you the $500.   ;D
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: hottubdan on September 21, 2007, 11:51:02 pm
You can borrow the difference from your mom, get the spa you like, and pay her back over time.

Yes indeed, you can have your cake and eat it too.

You were asking for a 11% discount, when 2% is reasonable, and they offered you about 5%.

Oh well.  good try.  Keep on shopping and go for second best. :'(
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: D.P. Roberts on September 22, 2007, 12:38:25 am
$500? Isn't that what they make credit cards for?
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Steve on September 22, 2007, 12:45:16 am
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Solo, the Envoy is one fine spa. $8495 is a killer deal. I wouldn't let $500 stand in the way of spatopia. Once you get it home the money won't be an issue. This spa will last you over ten years. I'm sure you can sock away $50 per year to make up the difference.

What do you do for a living?

He's a head hunter.
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Vinny on September 22, 2007, 08:45:03 am
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Let me get the Crayons out for a sec...

[size=14]STOP LOOKING AT SPAS NOT IN YOUR PRICE RANGE AND WASTING YOUR TIME AND THEIRS!!!!!! [/size]




I thought this too!

I think if we stop wasting our time with this, the problem will go away. If we all stop responding, maybe solo will stop fence sitting or will stop posting. I think there is an enjoyment factor that is underling here ... he's playing with everyone's heads both the dealers and here. If we don't play there's nothing going on.

As I said in another thread, I stopped giving advice a while ago.

I like what Steve said about firing the customer ... if I owned my own store and a customer was a PITA I would gladly ask them to leave and never return.

I knew a guy who liked to go "car shopping" ... he wasn't buying a car but liked to haggle with car dealers - that was his game.

Personally I think we should all stop responding.

I'll now go back into the background
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Steve on September 22, 2007, 09:34:50 am
I agree 100% Vinny and will follow suit.... :-X
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: The_Pa._Lady on September 22, 2007, 09:47:32 am

AGREED!!

Enough is enough.  Vinny is right.
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: East_TX_Spa on September 22, 2007, 11:24:50 am
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Dontcha need a budget for ammo too? No sense having a rifle without ammo, that's like a hot tub without water in it.

One of the wonderful things about the AR-15's robust design is that you can shoot pretty much anything you want in it.  One time when I was surrounded by Huns, I realized I had exhausted my supply of .223.  I quickly reached into my duffel bag, grabbed some spent brass, my pipe tobacco, my saltpieter reserves, a feminine hygiene applicator, and some rock salt out of my ice cream machine.  Combining these ingredients, I was able to defend my bunker and preserve the virtue of the hydrotherapy technicians that were in my charge.

Ammo is all around you, you just have to know where to look.

Solo, please consider this information during your search and it will be a great inspiration to you.

Terminator
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Repeat_Offender on September 22, 2007, 11:40:33 am
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Personally I think we should all stop responding.

I'll now go back into the background

...until the next time you respond.

Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: ssbraun on September 22, 2007, 12:15:29 pm
I come here for good info and the occasional good laugh.
Getting the good info...getting lots of laughs (Thanks Term!)...also getting lots of junior high school gossipy bullying from senior members (WTF?)  As requested by our illustrious moderator, maybe it's time to raise the maturity level a bit...Sorry, it's just getting a little old.  ::)
SB
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Vinny on September 22, 2007, 01:41:47 pm
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...until the next time you respond.


Hey, I wasn't responding to solo I was giving advice to everyone else ... there is a difference. Just like I'm responding to you.
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Repeat_Offender on September 22, 2007, 02:27:13 pm
So now you're not responding to the thread but instead you're responding to my pointing out that you ignored your own plea to stop responding??
I think we got it now..... :o
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: ndabunka on September 22, 2007, 02:50:06 pm
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I made an offer on a hot tub today to my Hotsprings dealer.  He is selling the Envoy for $8900.  I offered $8000 cash offer.

He's getting back to me.

If he takes it, I'll be the proud owner of an Envoy.  If he doesn't, onward to Caldera, Jacuzzi, and Bullfrog.  


Huh?  I thought you had decided to get one of the other Hot Tub's that was in your price range?  Now, it appears that you have gotten more cash and are now trying to find one that is more expensive than you budget?  I guess I just don't get it.  If you didn't have enough for what you wanted, and then got that money, why not simply buy that one?

If you have $8K to work with, why don't you do a search and find a tub that others have actually been able to buy that price rather than trying to buy a tub that is priced higher?  To re-enforce the premise, it's like shopping for a new car and liking the Acura TL but then realizing that it's just a "little" out of your price range.  You work out a deal to get that difference from your mom and now COULD easily get that car but instead you decide that you like the Mercedes CLS500 and think that would be "much better".... Well DO-ah!  Of course it would but....  What happens next?  Do you go to your father and get the extra $10K to get that one and then decide that the CLS55 AMG would be even better still?  

I keep reading witht he expectation that reality has to sink in sometime, doesn't it?  Pretty soon you'll run out of relatives.  I think we all understand that you are tryign to get the "best deal" out there but you may also want to try to apply (some) logic to this approach.

If your considering Jacuzzi, take a look at this thread where a guy picked up one of the smaller J-325's for $5K.  I would think he could give you the BEST current pricing valuations for the larger Jacuzzi's.
http://www.whatsthebest-hottub.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1190403500/15#16
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Steve on September 23, 2007, 12:42:28 am
Oh that's just LOGICAL.... ::)  ;) ;D
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: solo on September 24, 2007, 03:37:32 pm
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Huh?  I thought you had decided to get one of the other Hot Tub's that was in your price range?  Now, it appears that you have gotten more cash and are now trying to find one that is more expensive than you budget?  I guess I just don't get it.  If you didn't have enough for what you wanted, and then got that money, why not simply buy that one?

If you have $8K to work with, why don't you do a search and find a tub that others have actually been able to buy that price rather than trying to buy a tub that is priced higher?  To re-enforce the premise, it's like shopping for a new car and liking the Acura TL but then realizing that it's just a "little" out of your price range.  You work out a deal to get that difference from your mom and now COULD easily get that car but instead you decide that you like the Mercedes CLS500 and think that would be "much better".... Well DO-ah!  Of course it would but....  What happens next?  Do you go to your father and get the extra $10K to get that one and then decide that the CLS55 AMG would be even better still?  

I keep reading witht he expectation that reality has to sink in sometime, doesn't it?  Pretty soon you'll run out of relatives.  I think we all understand that you are tryign to get the "best deal" out there but you may also want to try to apply (some) logic to this approach.

If your considering Jacuzzi, take a look at this thread where a guy picked up one of the smaller J-325's for $5K.  I would think he could give you the BEST current pricing valuations for the larger Jacuzzi's.
http://www.whatsthebest-hottub.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1190403500/15#16

Well, I guess we just don't understand each other bro.  Your PM's to me have been rather confusing as well.  However,  I will not try to publicly embarrass you though as you have done me.  
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: 96SC on September 24, 2007, 03:46:49 pm
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..... Everyone needs to say just one more thing...

Here's mine...pull the plug, Bill   >:(
Title: Re: I made an offer on a hot tub
Post by: Richs100 on September 24, 2007, 06:25:20 pm
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Here's mine...pull the plug, Bill   >:(

No, wait.  I get the last word.

Ok, go ahead, Bill.   :D