Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: kmathur on September 20, 2007, 04:48:28 pm
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Any feedback on this brand? From what I have seen, they have a pretty good product: http://www.lifespas.com/
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Welcome to the forum! :)
In your opinion, what makes them seem like a good value?
In my opinion and experience, they are one of many, many, many cookie cutter spa companies (Hydrospa, Warm Springs, White Springs, Sunco, Sundaze, Sunspa, Morgan, Aries, ALPS, Icon, Weslo, etc) that come and go.
They typically end up in the junk yard within 5 years.
Avoid like the plague.
Terminator
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Thanks for the reply Terminator. In answer to your question: I went to one of thier demos in LA. These guys have been in business for about 15 years in Chino. They have showrooms by appointment only and do not spend money on printed literature. They say this saves them enough money that they pass on to the consumer(?). The spa shells are vacuformed and then fiberglassed, a very strong process that has been abanonded in favor of full foam reinforcment on acryllic only. Acyrllic is also much thicker than industry standard. Their warrany is not pro-rated, so 100% is covered by their in house service division. Parts are not proprietary so every thing is available from a general pool supply store. They make a 550 gallon model which is hard to find. They also have a bromine generator system, which I have not really seen before in the US, but is common in saltwater pools in Europe. Problem is, I have seen hardly a post or review about these tubs.
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Thanks for the reply Terminator. In answer to your question: I went to one of thier demos in LA. These guys have been in business for about 15 years in Chino. They have showrooms by appointment only and do not spend money on printed literature. They say this saves them enough money that they pass on to the consumer(?). The spa shells are vacuformed and then fiberglassed, a very strong process that has been abanonded in favor of full foam reinforcment on acryllic only. Acyrllic is also much thicker than industry standard. Their warrany is not pro-rated, so 100% is covered by their in house service division. Parts are not proprietary so every thing is available from a general pool supply store. They make a 550 gallon model which is hard to find. They also have a bromine generator system, which I have not really seen before in the US, but is common in saltwater pools in Europe. Problem is, I have seen hardly a post or review about these tubs.
Showrooms by appointment only would be 1 reason not to buy one,how much are they saving you by not having any brochures? :roll: Most acrylic spas do not rely on full foam for reinforcement the list goes on and on. Try not to believe the crap this guy/gal is feeding you.
If you want to buy one do it but dont put much into it,I am sure you will love it whats the price for this 550 gallon spa?
Checked out there website looks great didnt realize you could save so much by not ordering/printing brochures.
http://www.lifespas.com/
Sorry shouldnt dis you so much! :) If its what your looking for in that price range I am sure it will work for you,but do some more research with others who have bought from them,and the BBB.
FWIW I had never heard of them.
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I am going to apologize upfront for being blunt, simply put they are among the very worst in terms of quality and marketing ( did you get sucked into a ad that promoted $5000.00 spas for less than 2 grand), I went to a class for them as well, having a back round in sales and seeing their closing techniques and their sales teachings it is very much like a tin man sales process, they are poorly backed we have had to fixed several of their spas for people who had their warranty claims denied over the phone before a tech ever went to the home to see the spa and these were less than one year old spas.
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Thanks for the reply Terminator. In answer to your question: I went to one of thier demos in LA. These guys have been in business for about 15 years in Chino. They have showrooms by appointment onlythat would make me think they have another job bc this isnt making any money and do not spend money on printed literature$1000 for brochures isnt that much money. They say this saves them enough money that they pass on to the consumer(?). The spa shells are vacuformed and then fiberglassed, a very strong process that has been abanonded in favor of full foam reinforcment on acryllic onlyI would say 90% of the companies still hand roll fibreglass. Acyrllic is also much thicker than industry standardAcrylic is expensive these days and everyone buys from the 2 main manufacturers Aristech & Lucite so it wouldnt be thicker. Their warratny is not pro-rated, so 100% is covered by their in house service division. Parts are not proprietary so every thing is available from a general pool supply store. They make a 550 gallon model which is hard to findNot too hard to find a 93x93 open concept tub. They also have a bromine generator system, which I have not really seen before in the US, but is common in saltwater pools in Europe.The genesis system has been around for a while & works well but it completely different than a Saltwater generator for a pool Problem is, I have seen hardly a post or review about these tubs.
No offence but it sounds like you were fed a bunch of lines from someone who is as educated about spas as yourself. Id say keep looking
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Any feedback on this brand? From what I have seen, they have a pretty good product: http://www.lifespas.com/
Listen to 101. Lifespas is a bottom feeder. Run like the wind.
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They say they have factory direct prices: what spa brands DON'T have factory direct prices? The tubs go from the manufacturer to the dealers :-?
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Thanks. I needed all those lambastations to set me straight! Although I heard Hot Springs spends 13-15 million per year on their advertising.
Even so, when I search for reviews for the top rated spas (e.g.:Marquis, Hot Springs, Nordic etc.). There are always a few posts that say: "Stay Away, they are a disaster!". I imagine the larger volume manufacturers statistically have some lemons that make it into the mix.
I am looking for the best (reliable/energy effieient/warranty) barrier-free ±500 gal spa, I guess under or around 10K. So far I have the HS Grandee, and the Nordic Rendezvous on my list. My old Grandee worked well for a long while, but gave up the ghost after 13 years; it ending up leaking like a sieve.
This question has probably already been answered on this forum a dozen times, but could you indulge me with some input to my search. Thanks in advance.
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IMHO the best price/features/quality is Jacuzzi. The largest tub there can be acquired in their 300-series line near the $8,200 mark
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I am looking for the best (reliable/energy effieient/warranty) barrier-free ±500 gal spa, I guess under or around 10K. ........My old Grandee worked well for a long while, but gave up the ghost after 13 years; it ending up leaking like a sieve.
Since my first tub was also a 13 year old Hot Spring that performed well, I would say you may have answered your own question. I replaced mine with a new Envoy and love it.
Good luck, Rich
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IMHO the best price/features/quality is HotSpring. The largest tubs (Vista and Grandee) can be acquired between $8.5 & 10K.
Terminator