Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: KY Girl in OH on July 14, 2007, 06:50:53 pm
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I have only begun in my process of research into hopefully purchasing a home spa and was fortunate enough to stumble across this site. Lots of useful information. I've been too under the weather the last week or so to get out to any real stores and start wet testing, so I've focused on searching the net in the meantime. I'm considering focusing on looking at smaller spas and am wondering if I'll be happy in the long run or if bigger is better? There are so many choices in terms of size that I'm starting to feel very overwhelmed. How to find that balance between what I want, need and will get the most use out of for my money? My main reason for wanting a spa is for relaxation/therapeutic. I work in health care and many days I come home with my back, if not whoe body in knots. I'd say that 75% to 90% of the time I'll be the only person using the spa. I have occassional company, but am single and most of my friends are married and busy with their own families. So, while I don't mind being sociable at all I'd say I'll be the primary user. Secondly, I'm only 5' 1.25" (can't forget that all important 1/4" :D) and so it seems a smaller spa would likely be more comfortable (I realize will only know for sure with wet testing)and easier for me to handle the maintenance of. I'm thinking smaller might also be a little more energy efficient? Also, back patio is only a little under 10' width, so not tons of room to work with as far as set up. Am I off in my reasoning? Will I be happy with 3 to 5 person unit or will I be immediately wishing I'd purchased a 6 to 7 person unit? Input from the voice(s) of experience most welcome. Thanks! Melissa :)
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We have a 2 to 3 person Jetsetter at home and it is fine.
We find that most 2nd time buyers buy smaller.
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Being a man I wanted the biggest baddest hot tub out there but my wife put her foot down and I had to settle for a smaller tub. We ended up going with a Caldera Martinique because it is one of the only tubs that my wife didn't "drown" in. It had everything we wanted in a smaller package. It is 6'5" X 7'6" and it has the lounger that my wanted but has given that seat up to me. Great jet power, each seat targets a different part of the body. The best thing about it was that I found a store that was closing their doors to move to another city and they gave me one hell of a deal. It retails for $6995 and I got it for $4295 and it wasn't a floor model. Only thing is that I have to call Caldera if I ever need service being there is no dealer within 200 miles, but Caldera is a reputable brand and have a good track record.
Best of luck finding the right tub!!
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To answer some of your specific questions:
Only you can determine the right spa for you. We went with a larger one, a Sundance Optima, and usually it's just the two of us. Ocasionally we get 4 or 5 in there, and it's nice to have the room. Also, even when it's just the two of us, it's nice to have a LOT of seats to choose from. Each seat has a unique jet arrangement and offers a different massage experience. One thing to consider is the "one that I didn't get" conundrum. Go for the spa that "sings" out to you, regardless of size. You won't get full enjoyment if you settle or compromise, you'll always be kicking yourself for that one that got away.
But only you can decide what's right for you.
All things being equal, a smaller spa would probably be somewhat less expensive. Purchase price would be lower, water capacity lower so less power needed to heat the water, and less chemicals needed for upkeep. You're only saving the difference, so hard to say exactly how much. But it does take less power to heat 250 gallons of water than 500, all other things being equal, like insulation and build quality.
Don't fret too much about being "vertically challenged". There are booster seats available if you feel too low in the water.
You're on the right track realizing that wet testing is the way to go.
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Our first spa was a 6-8 seater, as we thought we'd invite lots of people over all the time. We ended up just using it ourselves 95% of the time. If we get another one, it will be a smaller one -2/3 seater, or maybe 4/5 seater at most.
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I'd say it depends on how you plan to use your spa. In my case, I wanted to be able to do the "altered states" thing from time to time (extremities extended while floating and staring straight up at the stars) as well as entertain a few friends here and there (So far there have been very few of these parties and the tub is use 85% by me and the other 15% is me and my boys (ages 11 & 4). My wife is 5'.0" (no 1/4 for her) but she does just fine in our larger 91"x91" tub the few times she has ventured in. One thing to consider is to go lounger or no lounger. Those with higher amounts of bodyfat (90% of the American public) tend to "float out" of most lounger seats. You don't have to be "fat" to exceed the recommended bodyfat levels. A 5'0" tall women weighing 95lbs is below those levels and at 110 that same person would be above those levels and therefore start to float. So, a wet test is always a good recommnedation for ANYONE considering a tub.
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Our spa quickly became a private place for me and my wife. We didn't want other people in the spa as we thought we would. However, we use a variety of seats as they have different jet placement. But as long as the jets were right, a two person spa would work for us.
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Hi Melissa, welcome to the forum and good luck with your search. It seems you have already researched some and you know your next step is to wet test. Jet placement and variety is what I looked for in shopping. I opted for a 4-5 person tub (Jacuzzi J345) and like the variety of the seats, each offering its own mix of jets. I also like to "stretch out" in mine and this allows me to do so 84"X84". It is on a 10 ft square slab and left me about 1.5 feet around in each direction which is plenty to get around.
I say go out and wet test and get the one you really like becasue if you are like me, you will regret getting something less than that. I really wanted a J365 but went a little cheaper and while I dont regret it terribly, I do think I should have gotten it in the long run. I guess size does matter afterall :)
And by the way, I am in Cincinnati, so if you want to put on a bikini and come over and wet test my Jaccuzi J345, feel free : ;) ;) ;)
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Those with higher amounts of bodyfat (90% of the American public) tend to "float out" of most lounger seats. You don't have to be "fat" to exceed the recommended bodyfat levels. A 5'0" tall women weighing 95lbs is below those levels and at 110 that same person would be above those levels and therefore start to float. So, a wet test is always a good recommnedation for ANYONE considering a tub.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but I beleive that 25% or lower of body fat is the recommended level for a healthy female. I would think that one could be 5' 110lbs and still fit under the recommendation rather easily.
Btw, I just rang in at 9%. :)
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but I beleive that 25% or lower of body fat is the recommended level for a healthy female. I would think that one could be 5' 110lbs and still fit under the recommendation rather easily.
Btw, I just rang in at 9%. :)
Chad, my wife is 5'0" (actually about 4'11 1/2" but she claims 5' even :) )...and weighs in at 96 lbs and she still floated out of a lounger when we wet tested...I thought maybe it had to do with the "floatation devices" women come equipped with :)
I am 5'10" and weigh 160 lbs and I had the same problem unless I locked my feet into the foot area in the lounger. I havent checked my % of body fat but I probably ring in pretty low myself.
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My dh and I are usually the only two in our Optima and I wouldn't want it smaller. We like to stretch out and I enjoy having different seats to hop to and from. If you have the space, I recommend mid to larger size spa. Have fun!
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but I beleive that 25% or lower of body fat is the recommended level for a healthy female. I would think that one could be 5' 110lbs and still fit under the recommendation rather easily.
Btw, I just rang in at 9%. :)
Chad - I didn't think it was that high (25%) but it is possible that I am not getting the "official" line. What I hear is "I've gained weight and now that I am fat, I don't want to wear a bikini anymore" (she's 110lbs). Maybe I should trade her in for one half her age? Naw, can't afford that!
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Thanks for all the great replies and advice and the friendly welcome everyone! :) I'm looking forward to doing a little leisurely shopping later this week when I have some unexpected (but very welcome) time off of work. I feel a little better equipped to resist the lure of buying more than I need just because it's big and pretty and also resisting the lure of gadgets and technology just for the sake of gadgets and technology (I do so love gadgets :o). I have a tendency to gravitate towards more technology than I need or will ever use from blenders to PDA's.
I also meant to say in my initial post that I've really enjoyed seeing the pictures everyone has posted of their tubs/set ups. Very nice. Great use of space.
Will report back with progress!
P.S.: Mez -- thanks for the offer! Don't think I've worn a bikini since I was 8. :-[
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Of course, only you can give the right answer. We bought a 6 person spa when it was my wife and daughter and I. Now it is just the two of us. But its nice having the extra room and each seat has something to offer. . In your case, being alone, take a look at covers and coverlifters. If that gets too heavy you will be less likely to use it in the winter when it is the best.
BTW, where in Ohio?
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Our spa quickly became a private place for me and my wife. We didn't want other people in the spa as we thought we would. However, we use a variety of seats as they have different jet placement. But as long as the jets were right, a two person spa would work for us.
My sentiments exactly. In the 4 years we have had our tub, only once has it has 6 persons in it. And the number of times it has had more than 3 can be counted on your fingers and toes. However, its the perfect size for us.
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Of course, only you can give the right answer. We bought a 6 person spa when it was my wife and daughter and I. Now it is just the two of us. But its nice having the extra room and each seat has something to offer. . In your case, being alone, take a look at covers and coverlifters. If that gets too heavy you will be less likely to use it in the winter when it is the best.
BTW, where in Ohio?
I agree that the extra room is nice, but also don't forget you will have much more therapy options with a larger tub.
A smaller tub offer's less variety and jet choices. If space, and price allow, I would be looking at a mid sized spa that has 5 seats or so and offers a variety of jets that hit the different areas of the body (back,: upper, lower) legs, calfs and soles of feet etc)
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"BTW, where in Ohio?"
South Dayton suburbs -- the city of neighbors :P (or Little Kentucky as some of the locals joke).
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KY was short for Kentucky? Oh. I was thinking something else. ::) Never mind.
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I'm with Drewstar. Unless you cant fit a mid-sized tub in your location, I'd not limit yourself to something too small. I shopped with the idea that I'd have people over with some frequency, and that at least my BF and myself would use it "all the time," so I was going to be happy with a 7' model. Nothing huge, but not a 3 person, either. As it turned out, the tub that I fell in love with was an 8' model, so that is what I got. I would have stressed over the potential reduction in energy efficiency, but reading here and research elsewhere taught me that the cost difference month to month between a 7' and 8' tub was pretty minimal.
A little over a year later, I have had friends in the tub about 3 times, and my BF only uses it about once a month (I dont get it!). Still, I dont regret the size. I love moving from seat to seat, and I use the width of the tub to stretch in the water, which might be tricky in a smaller tub.
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in my experience as a retailer, which based on customer fedback, most people think 6 person spa and buy it. Their second spa is smaller, generally a 4 person or smaller. What they discover over time is only two people ever use the tub. The first thoughts are wow everyone will stop in and use it but that doesn't happen. usage is personal and private, limited to the couple and their kids possibly. a family can be the motivation to buying a larger spa because you anticipate kids and their friends stopping by to use it, now this will happen. buy what is suitable for your needs. Coleman 351 is a perfect three person small format hot tub, a personal therapy unit. another suggestion....if you find you need a larger tub.....trade up. Good luck........tom
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My point was it's not a "six person" spa. It's a spa with 6 diferent therapy seats. In fact if you try to put 6 average sized adults in some of these 6 seaters, you'll be pretty tight.
Just because 1 or 2 people are going to use the spa, doens't mean they should buy a spa that only has one or two therapy stations. Think of it like "circuit training".
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P.S.: Mez -- thanks for the offer! Don't think I've worn a bikini since I was 8. :-[
I'm glad to hear that you swim au natural. ;)
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P.S.: Mez -- thanks for the offer! Don't think I've worn a bikini since I was 8. :-[
EVEN BETTER!!! No bikini at all!!!!!! :) :)
I pormise not to peek!
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A little over a year later, I have had friends in the tub about 3 times, and my BF only uses it about once a month (I dont get it!). Still, I dont regret the size. I love moving from seat to seat, and I use the width of the tub to stretch in the water, which might be tricky in a smaller tub.
Anne, I dont get it either, whats up with your BF??
I would be in there with you on a daily basis!! ;)
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"BTW, where in Ohio?"
South Dayton suburbs -- the city of neighbors :P (or Little Kentucky as some of the locals joke).
I am not sure I can put a plug in for the dealer I bought from, but maybe i will send it to you in a private message.
They have a location in Dayton, Middleton and Cincinnati...South Dayton, either of the two is worth checking out. Besides a delay in getting the tub of about 2 weeks, they have been great to deal with, very low key sales tactics, no pressure, no B.S.
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KY was short for Kentucky? Oh. I was thinking something else. ::) Never mind.
I was thinking the same thing! Why do you think I invited her over to wet test my tub :) :) :)
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Thanks for all the continued good suggestions. Everyone has had some great points. Looking forward to getting a start on shopping around tomorrow as I'll be off work for the next 4 days ;D. Drewstar's spa therapy circuit training analogy is sounding mighty appealing at the moment (yep the back is in knots :'().
Mez - thanks for the heads up on ASAP. I haven't really been asking around about dealers, but lately conversations about spas keep coming up. Several co-workers and a patient I've been working with have had great things to say about the local Hot Springs dealer and one friend gave Watson's a thumbs up, but no one has had anything to say about ASAP or the local Spa Gallery (Sundance) store. So, I was wondering. I seem to have four solid choices within easy driving distance.
Posted by: SpaNE Posted on: Today at 6:09pm
I'm glad to hear that you swim au natural.
Posted by: Mez Posted on: Today at 6:24pm
EVEN BETTER!!! No bikini at all!!!!!!
I pormise not to peek!
Well, sure set myself up for that. :-[ Anything is possible in the realm of cyberspace I suppose, but hope you guys don't have high expectations for this to happen in real life .
Everyone have a good night! I'm sure you're all out there enjoying a soak while I'm in here at the keyboard . :'((Pitiful enough ?).
A Kentucky Girl in Ohio ( ::)What else could it possibly mean ROTFLOL?)
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one friend gave Watson's a thumbs up
FWIW, If I was stranded in the Sahara and the Watsons here in the STL was the only retailer that had water there, I still wouldn't buy from them. Hopefully yours is ALOT better.
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Anne, I dont get it either, whats up with your BF??
I would be in there with you on a daily basis!! ;)
He's a wimp! In the winter, the air is too cold to make it out there (in CA!). In the summer, its too hot....even though I tun it down to 100. Apparently he doesnt find hot water and massaging jets as therapeutic as me! I think he just doesn't manifest stress the same way I do. Basically, 90% of the time he joins me he has ulterior motives. ;)
And Drew, that is what I meant about 6 seats, too. Circuit training is a great way to put it!!!
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He's a wimp! In the winter, the air is too cold to make it out there (in CA!). In the summer, its too hot....even though I tun it down to 100. Apparently he doesnt find hot water and massaging jets as therapeutic as me! I think he just doesn't manifest stress the same way I do. Basically, 90% of the time he joins me he has ulterior motives. ;)
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And he only gets in ONCE A MONTH! My wife and him would get along great! :)
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Its been about a year since I was last shopping around, but I really wasn't too impressed with the tub scene here in Dayton. Seems to me most everyone buys from Watson's because it convenient.
Of course, I never ended up purchasing one (bought a house that had a leaky late 80's Jacuzzi), so I can't comment on anything other than my shopping experience.
There is another spa/fireplace/patio store down the road from the Sundance dealer a mile or two, Morgans, they may be worth checking out as well. I can't remember what brand it was they sold, but sales guy was friendly and no pressure.
Edit: Remembered the store's name.
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He's a wimp! In the winter, the air is too cold to make it out there (in CA!). In the summer, its too hot....even though I tun it down to 100. Apparently he doesnt find hot water and massaging jets as therapeutic as me! I think he just doesn't manifest stress the same way I do. Basically, 90% of the time he joins me he has ulterior motives. ;)
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He probably wanted you to get the Hot Spring. ;) ;) ;)
Anyway, he should have ulterior motives more than once a month! :) :D ;D ;)
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OK, I shouldda seen that coming......ulterior motives are more than monthly, but the "so.....wanna get in the jacuzzi?" (yes, he calls it a jacuzzi) is about monthly. Geez, guys, there are other places, you know....... ::)
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OK, I shouldda seen that coming......ulterior motives are more than monthly, but the "so.....wanna get in the jacuzzi?" (yes, he calls it a jacuzzi) is about monthly. Geez, guys, there are other places, you know....... ::)
Ohter places? LIke where? Do tell...we want details!! ;D