Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: dsommerl on January 19, 2006, 05:39:42 pm
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In a different thread--I posted about my bouts with the dreaded hot tub rash--follicle bacteria bug. Also---was advised by my dermatologist (oh yeah- have spent about $500 in bills over this thing)--to also consider a possible reaction to one or more of the chems (Liesure Time system)
Strangely--my selling dealer (tub is only 6 mths old) to invite me to a Leisure Time seminar at their showroom. When I told him of my problem/s---he immediately went into a song and dance about Eco One. They had begun recommending it to people with rash problems--sensitive skin etc---and so far they've had rave reviews from those customers.
Can anyone comment on Eco One?
Am getting ready to super sanitize my spa (3rd time)--totally "nuke" it this time. ANd want to get started off right for my FINAL try at this thing (I'm selling it if this rash thing comes back)
thanks !!
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Hi,
I had a similair problem Dec of 04, I was having rashes and did a lot of research, I began to use SoftSoak and have never looked back, it is much less maintenance and although my dealer claims it is more expensive, I don't find it to be more expensive. We have not had any reactions to it and use our tub almost every day. I hope you find something that works for you.
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I'm having a similar problem too. I am looking a a product called Spa Magic
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I haven't been in the spa for 2 weeks now waiting for the rash and bumps to go away which should be soon. (I was told 4-6 weeks). Been to the MD and thought maybe its a Hot water chemical reaction. I will look at soft soak and see what its all about.
Good luck and hope the best. I need to get over this because I miss the soaking!
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This is apparently a VERY common problem. I had never had it in my 15 years of use with a Jacuzzi Quantum--where all I ever did was balance the ph and use chloriine and bleach for a shock once a week.
Interesting how my dealer--when I mentioned my problems--didn't hesitate on the phone----RIGHT AWAY--he went into a pitch for this EconOne system.
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Eco One is an enzyme system that works to kill bacteria. IMO, it works accompanied by a small amount of dichlor which "finishes the job" and will kill other bugs that are not bacteria. As a stand alone, it may keep the water clean, but there will still be livin' things swimming around.
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So, your a "fan" of this Eco One product/s?
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I've never used it, but I like the concept. I've seen many posts from users of Eco One and it's competitor, The Natural (which Doc sells). There are people who swear by it, even as a stand alone. With enzyme systems, you have to keep checking and rinsing your filters and I didn't like that part of it. Your pH also likes to be a little high, so I've stayed away. The pluses seem to be very fresh water, easy on the skin.
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Everybody has been great with feedback--replies on my various posts concerning this subject. I wanted to report back on my experience so far with this Eco One system.
First--I'm not a shill for this company nor any other--I'm a consumer like most others here---
So far (3 immersions since my change over)---I am problem free and consider this system (or maybe just the elimination of the chemicals---one or more--in the Liesure Time system) a major success. My third soak was last night---and again--I can report that I am problem free---zero skin irritaion today---no flare up---this looks like a winner for me.
The water actually feels "silkier" --softer now. It even has a light--"sweet" smell to it. Almost like it has a moisturizing quality to it. On each dip--I didn't shower off immediately nor apply any lotion--moisturizer (it's still winter and I still have some dry skin).
I can also say that the tech at Eco One--has been extremely helpful---very nice guy---willing to spend time and thought on my situation. Actually insistiant that I call back with progress reports.
My only concern is that the water has turned a bit cloudsy over the past few days (vs crystal clear---from set up three weeks ago to a few days ago). The tech guy suggested that this is somewhat normal in a new set up---and should self resolve in a week or two--maybe even three or four---that I should not start dumping anything more into the tub---to just stay the course with minimal dichlor adds immediately after soaks--only---(1 tsp per person for a 480 gallon tub).
I'm not knocking Leisure Time----as they are an industry leader and many folks swear by them. I am a "tough" case--with apparently sensitive skin--dry skin. I am thinking however, now that I never had the dreaded bacterial rash---but rather was allergic to one of the Leisure Time chems----maybe the MPS non chlorine shock--that many others have reported problem/s with.
All I know for sure--is that this Eco One product and system is all that they tout--and I think it's solved my skin problem---What a relief!!!
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Are these systems compatable with an Ozinator?
Does it make a difference if your tub uses a 24 hr circ pump or a timed filter cycle using the larger pumps?
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Yes--have an ozonator---it's a Jacuz J375--480 gallons---bot new last July 05. Is compatibale---ozonator further reduces need for dichlor to sanitize---to less than 1ppm.
Have the tub set up for 4 1 hour cycles per day--don't have a 24hr circ system.
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The water actually feels "silkier" --softer now. It even has a light--"sweet" smell to it.
Is the "sweet" smell from the Eco One or is that the smell people talk about that shows the ozonator is working?
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Don't know----though it's definitely a different "smell".
The EcoOne tech said that the stuff includes a coconut extract of some kind that is probably responsible for the new smell.
Also, he said that though some people believe this stuff has some moisturizing properties---he didn't think it had much if any---but---just didn't promote dryness or irritation--anymore than the hot water and jet water movement would do anyway---normally.
Obviously--I'm super impressed with my experience so far---My only reservation now is the mild cloudiness in the water lately. IF that does resolve on it's own as I've been told to wait for----I'll be 100%.
BTW---the tech said that many users over a long period report they use zero sanitizer--dichlor at all---with no ill effects. He didn't recommend this approach---and I'll maintain some dichlor use for sure. Again---I know that I am not at all allergic to dichlor---especially in the minimal doses this system allows.
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I don't understand what the benefit is if you still need 1 tsp per person after soaking. That's what I do without the ECO One. It raises Free Chlorine to 4-5 ppm in a 450 gallon tub. That's enough to kill anything in there.
Do you think you will eventually reduce this amount?
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it doesn't raise my level that much---at least the next day when I use it again or when I do use it again.
I add right after I get out----then add no more until I use it again--by the time I use it again---it has dropped to virtually zero ppm
The reason I like Eco One is as stated----so far---it is very easy on my skin---versus my previous system--plain and simple. AND all I do is add one bottle of the Montly Eco One and then the dosages of dichlor---that is all---no shocking---no thisa and no thata
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You may be able to get by with just adding some dichlor once per week...maybe a tblsp. That will give you a good clense and may give the Eco One a head start to keep the spa in good shape for the rest of the week. May be worth an experiment.
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the addition of 1 tspn per person after each sounds like a traditional chlorine/ dichlor sanitizing method. We've employed that method for two decades now. We also recommend the Spaguard Enzyme Cleaner weekly.
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The purpose of my system chageover was to eliminate all of the previous regieme's chems---The only thing I know I am not allergic to is dichlor--so, the level of dichlor I use is immaterial to my situation.
All I'm saying is that after three tubs with this Eco One system---I don't have any of the skin breakouts that I had with Leisure Time's. Whether it was their "Defender"---Metal Gon or MPS chems--I don't kow for sure (though maybe the MPS "Renew" shcok--from my reading).
Assuming the slight cloudiness self resolves as the Eco One tech is telling me it will over time---then I'll be 100% satisfied with Eco One. I am going to wait as I don't want to start introducing yet another chemical (clarifier or whatever)--that might cause me a problem.
AGain--I am not a shill for this product--nor am I in the business--I'm a homeowner who was so afflicted that I was considering just selling this relatively new spa--just bot last July. I have read and read on my problem and have seen that many many people have similar skin problems. Maybe if I had just eliminated the Renew product---I would have been alright with my previous regime----who knows?
This is working for me and I'm sticking with it.