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General => Beating a dead horse => Topic started by: wmccall on January 03, 2007, 02:24:45 pm

Title: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: wmccall on January 03, 2007, 02:24:45 pm
Last year at the time, we attended the annual home show downtown. It actually was a good home show and we ended up getting our bathroom remodeled. (The Microban shower stall is doing well!)  

The same show was also the infamous one we all know about billed as [glow]16 great manufacturers all bidding for your business [/glow]

If you wanted to buy a Master or a Hawkeye spa, it was fun to go look at. Last year, the local MS dealer was a long time one, but I didn't see their presence at the show. Since then, they dumped MS, and I know this show was one factor. Their is a new pool company that is the local MS dealer.

Well, the show is back, and the only ads I have heard were mainly about the home part of the show. I haven't hear the BS ads. (yet)  I'll let you know.
Title: Sleaze finds Sleaze
Post by: wmccall on January 05, 2007, 04:51:33 pm
More updates on the traveling circus.  As mentioned the home show that also have the super spa sale, was a good show.   Also last year, I filed a complaint with the Ohio Attorney Generals office agains Bluestar shows who had a Super Golf Sale in Columbus.  The sales ad for that show were pure deception.  All I asked for was a refund of my show admission and my parking cost, which I received.    Wouldn't you know it, this year the same spa show has teamed up with the sleazy golf show.  But at first I didn't hear the typical blantent lies. However that didn't last, tonight I saw the ad for 15 major manufacturers.  

One other thing has changed since then. The long time MS dealer dumped MS.  I don't know if the new MS dealer is affiliated with this show. MJB, have any insight into this?  I won't give Blue Star shows another dime of my money. (They also have an equally crappy computer show)
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: mjb on January 06, 2007, 10:18:29 am
Yes, the master spa cicus is back in town.
A local pool company functions as their
service and delivery company.
We've already had customers come to
our store after being at the show.
These people were lied to on just about
every level.
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: wmccall on January 06, 2007, 10:38:17 am
Well, at least I can go to the home show this year guilt free. (The one at the convention center) Not sure if they have a spa section this year. I'll let you know)
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: Mendocino101 on January 06, 2007, 02:07:27 pm
Is there an old dog I hear barking somewhere to come to the rescue of the reputation of Master spas. I sure lassie or rin tin tin will be here shortly to say all makers are guilty of the same thing. Here boy here boy...come and bark something at us or me..... ;)
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: Chas on January 06, 2007, 02:20:19 pm
Medno, I'm curious about what you mean when you say that all tub makers are guilty of the same thing?

I have never seen a show which was promoted as more than one manufacturer which turned out to be all one manufacturer, except for Master Spas.


 8-)
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: Mendocino101 on January 06, 2007, 03:03:24 pm
Chas,

What I meant was that there is a regular poster here and someone who seems like a really good guy , who each time this comes up has for some reason that I have yet to figure out why, comes to the defense of master spas and has said all makers are guilty of similar things and has been particularly hard me, about 3 years ago when I first brought these shows up and I was very upset as at the time I was truly just spa shopping as a consumer, I felt totally mislead and deceived as I attended a show on Friday taking 4 of my nephews with me only to walk in and see that it was a complete and total sham,When I asked where everyone was I was told and that the all the makers showed up but than they left as they knew they could not compete with Master. I drove about 30 miles looking forward to Caldera that was listed as one who was going to be there. anyway this is getting to long on my part and the post was just somewhat of joke to someone who again seems to feel the need to justify these shows.
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: Chas on January 06, 2007, 03:17:00 pm
Ah. Thank-you for clarifying - I remember it all now.

 8-)
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: windsurfdog on January 08, 2007, 03:14:49 pm
Old news.......
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: Spatech_tuo on January 08, 2007, 03:47:38 pm
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Old news.......

... not if it repeats itself.
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: windsurfdog on January 09, 2007, 02:58:25 pm
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... not if it repeats itself...
...and you want to keep dredging up the same old tired subject.  We know they exist, no one is happy about it but there's nothing that can be done about it.

Like I said, old news...
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: Spatech_tuo on January 09, 2007, 05:16:10 pm
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...and you want to keep dredging up the same old tired subject.  We know they exist, no one is happy about it but there's nothing that can be done about it.

Like I said, old news...

It will be old news the day they stop running this type of bait and switch show. I'm not even the one posting about it but if it reoccurs then yes, I would expect people would post about it. It may be old news to you and me but there are many people who log on to this site who may not have been here before or not since the last time it was brought up so to them it may be new information. Why does this bother you so much anyway? It is not a reflection on the spa in your back yard but only on the sales practice of the company. You can still tell everyone how much you like your spa and how well it has performed for you.
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: windsurfdog on January 09, 2007, 06:12:18 pm
tuo,

If you look at when this thread started and then notice mendo's post, you will see that I deliberately stayed out of it until mendo decided he would drag me back into it.  I refuse to discuss it further with him or you or anyone else because I cannot say any more or offer anything new...if people need to know my feelings on it...AND...if they care to read and understand exactly how I feel, then they can search previous threads.  I'm just not interested in rehashing it any more.  Like I said, no one (including me) likes this program but there's not a thing that can be done to stop it...it will continue to exist.  Bill did all that can be done by bringing to our attention that the latest version is in his neck of the woods...and I have no problem with that.  Mendo decided that I should be drug back into the conversation and I refuse...that's it...old news.
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: Reese on January 09, 2007, 07:28:08 pm
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... I'm just not interested in rehashing it any more...Mendo decided that I should be drug back into the conversation and I refuse...that's it...old news.
Aw, c'mon...things have gotten so boring in the "Dead Horse" section that Why Not has started kicking some of the threads just to see if they'll still whinny.  Here we had a candidate to revive the section (although that would require our moderator to banish his own thread  :o), and you refuse to do your part!  I'm all for maturity, not allowing someone to push your buttons or make it personal, and the like... but think of the rest of us! ;) ::) :)
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: windsurfdog on January 10, 2007, 08:38:53 am
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Aw, c'mon...things have gotten so boring in the "Dead Horse" section that Why Not has started kicking some of the threads just to see if they'll still whinny.  Here we had a candidate to revive the section (although that would require our moderator to banish his own thread  :o), and you refuse to do your part!  I'm all for maturity, not allowing someone to push your buttons or make it personal, and the like... but think of the rest of us! ;) ::) :)
Look, you can say what you want about me but when you start accusing me of maturity, THAT'S WHERE I DRAW THE LINE!  8-)
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: Mendocino101 on January 10, 2007, 06:00:47 pm
 come on dog, You bashed me so hard a few years ago about these shows and if I was telling the truth about them, after so many others came on board to confirm them you than just tried to say all makers were guilty of the same things and never did you make mention of anything about my personal integrity that you questioned. But as Spa tech asked and I have why you ever felt the need to be an apologist for them is what I have always wondered about.
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: wmccall on January 10, 2007, 06:39:27 pm
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...and you want to keep dredging up the same old tired subject.  We know they exist, no one is happy about it but there's nothing that can be done about it.

Like I said, old news...

I brought it up in the beginning as it was new, new location, divorvced from the previous show and at first no mention of the 15 major manufactures (at the time of the first post)  Then the sleaze ad  finally did come out. I felt it was news.
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: windsurfdog on January 11, 2007, 01:14:54 pm
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come on dog, You bashed me so hard a few years ago about these shows and if I was telling the truth about them, after so many others came on board to confirm them you than just tried to say all makers were guilty of the same things and never did you make mention of anything about my personal integrity that you questioned. But as Spa tech asked and I have why you ever felt the need to be an apologist for them is what I have always wondered about.
Get over it, mendo...sheesh...

And please take what I said in an earlier post on this thread to heart, namely, "...if people need to know my feelings on it...AND...if they care to read and understand exactly how I feel, then they can search previous threads...".  It's not why I feel the need to be "an apologist", it's why do you keep dredging up old news?  This is a new occurance of the same old thing...research my previous posts and wallow if you must...just leave me out of it...thank you.
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: Mendocino101 on January 12, 2007, 05:29:36 pm
hey grow up dog, I am not the one drudging up old news, I am just the one you seem to single out, why don't YOU go and dig up some of the Master trash and see how much I was involved you will have to go a back a few years, when I was just shopping for spa, outside of maybe a just post or two and after many others had gotten involved I stayed out of it as you seemed to question my integrity about it.
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: Chas on January 13, 2007, 02:00:06 pm
Hey, look at the time....


 8-)
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: Chad on January 13, 2007, 03:08:10 pm
Settle it once and for all.

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Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: windsurfdog on January 14, 2007, 08:02:04 am
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Settle it once and for all.
It is settled...someone tell Mendo...

And thank you Bill for moving this to the proper forum.
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: Mendocino101 on January 14, 2007, 04:15:53 pm
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It is settled...someone tell Mendo...

And thank you Bill for moving this to the proper forum.
lol...thats right Thank Bill the guy who started the thread.... ::).....but make sure to let me know..... ;D
Title: Re: Traveling circus part II?
Post by: Chad on January 15, 2007, 12:04:18 am
Come on, atleast go a few rounds between the ropes. ;)