Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Roger Wilkerson on November 11, 2017, 06:10:17 pm
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Hi folks-
I am looking for a little advice. My wife and I are looking for our fourth spa after relocating to TX. I am not looking for anything big. I do however want good therapy potential as my back is really bad. We are wanting to stay around the 6k range
At this moment I am looking at three spas in no particular order.
1. Northwinds SL series Element 50 jet model. - 6295.00
2. D1 Dream with LED and Bluetooth stereo - 6050.00
3. Marquis 435 2 PUMP MODEL - 6350.00
Thoughts, pros, cons? The dealers for the Northwinds and Marquis both seem to be quality dealers (Northwind more so). The D1 dealer is considering leaving the spa game and going back to just pools but I have to believe that D1 would stand behind their product.
What do ya'll think? Any and all opinions and advice including other recommendations would be most welcome
Thanks, Roger
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No advice or recommendations??? If I am missing anything please let me know
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Hi folks-
I am looking for a little advice. My wife and I are looking for our fourth spa after relocating to TX. I am not looking for anything big. I do however want good therapy potential as my back is really bad. We are wanting to stay around the 6k range
At this moment I am looking at three spas in no particular order.
1. Northwinds SL series Element 50 jet model. - 6295.00
2. D1 Dream with LED and Bluetooth stereo - 6050.00
3. Marquis 435 2 PUMP MODEL - 6350.00
Thoughts, pros, cons? The dealers for the Northwinds and Marquis both seem to be quality dealers (Northwind more so). The D1 dealer is considering leaving the spa game and going back to just pools but I have to believe that D1 would stand behind their product.
What do ya'll think? Any and all opinions and advice including other recommendations would be most welcome
Thanks, Roger
I don’t know anything about Northwinds Spas. Never heard of them. Marquis and D-1 are both good brands. The D-1 dealer getting out of spas would concern me a bit when it comes to warranty. Price wise on the Marquis you are pretty cheap and it’s a good powerful tub. It might be the most powerful tub out there (Show being the other most powerful). Good luck in your search
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Like Hottubguy, I've never heard of Northwinds Spas. After doing some research it looks like it's a different line made by Coast Spas out of Canada. I've heard that Coast is a difficult company to deal with, you might Google "Coast Spa Complaints" and read some of the stuff.
The Marquis 435 with 2 pumps is incredibly powerful and you can run every jet at the same time with full power. I actually just bought a 435 1 pump spa for my house, getting delivered next Wednesday!
Good luck in your search.
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Northwinds is the Junior line of Coast Spas. D1 seems to have a lot of people here who vouch for them but I've never been enamored with them. Marquis is a solid brand and I'd bet that of three brands you've mentioned, they'd get the most accolades out of the forum posters.
If it means anything to you, Marquis is the only one made in the USA, as D1 is Apollo Group (Mexico) and Coast is made in Canada.
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Yes, made in America does matter to me
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Yes, made in America does matter to me
Then all three meet your qualifications ;)
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Yes, made in America does matter to me
Then all three meet your qualifications ;)
Isn't Coast Spas in Canada and D1 now Apollo Group and made in Mexico (and not Chino Hills, CA)? Cause I am pretty sure that is where they are made. Unless something changed very recently? (Not trying to sound snotty, sorry if that reads that way)
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Be careful, there could be parts from overseas in all tubs.
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Yes, made in America does matter to me
Then all three meet your qualifications ;)
Isn't Coast Spas in Canada and D1 now Apollo Group and made in Mexico (and not Chino Hills, CA)? Cause I am pretty sure that is where they are made. Unless something changed very recently? (Not trying to sound snotty, sorry if that reads that way)
I was being snarky. He said being made in America is important to him. Last time I checked, that includes Mexico and Canada.
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sounds like the Marquis is the favorite. I had written off HS and Caldera for budget reasons. I had a local Caldera dealer tell me to take my money and go to Home Depot or Costco because I couldn't afford his product line. I did find another Caldera dealer and surprise surprise they have 2 tubs that fit my criteria and budget, the Marino and Vanto.
Any feedback on those tubs?
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Yes, made in America does matter to me
Then all three meet your qualifications ;)
Isn't Coast Spas in Canada and D1 now Apollo Group and made in Mexico (and not Chino Hills, CA)? Cause I am pretty sure that is where they are made. Unless something changed very recently? (Not trying to sound snotty, sorry if that reads that way)
I was being snarky. He said being made in America is important to him. Last time I checked, that includes Mexico and Canada.
Well played. I walked right into that one :)
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sounds like the Marquis is the favorite. I had written off HS and Caldera for budget reasons. I had a local Caldera dealer tell me to take my money and go to Home Depot or Costco because I couldn't afford his product line. I did find another Caldera dealer and surprise surprise they have 2 tubs that fit my criteria and budget, the Marino and Vanto.
Any feedback on those tubs?
Good quality but again, made in Mexico. But I do hear good things from dealers about them.
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Ok, the Artesian Dealer just sent me several options in the Island and South Seas lines. What's the consensus on Artesian? The dealer is a long time dealer good with the BBB
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sounds like the Marquis is the favorite. I had written off HS and Caldera for budget reasons. I had a local Caldera dealer tell me to take my money and go to Home Depot or Costco because I couldn't afford his product line. I did find another Caldera dealer and surprise surprise they have 2 tubs that fit my criteria and budget, the Marino and Vanto.
Any feedback on those tubs?
I sell Marquis and Caldera. If you can get the E435 for the same price as a Marino or Vanto you are better off with the Marquis. The 435 with two pumps therapy wise will blow those Calderas away. The E Series is more inline with the Paradise series from Caldera. Nothing wrong with either Caldera but you are getting a real good deal on that Marquis. If size is a issue that would be the only reason to consider the Caldera
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Ok, the Artesian Dealer just sent me several options in the Island and South Seas lines. What's the consensus on Artesian? The dealer is a long time dealer good with the BBB
Artesian is solid. Island is of better quality than that of South Seas but Artesian is a grand ol' company.
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sounds like the Marquis is the favorite. I had written off HS and Caldera for budget reasons. I had a local Caldera dealer tell me to take my money and go to Home Depot or Costco because I couldn't afford his product line. I did find another Caldera dealer and surprise surprise they have 2 tubs that fit my criteria and budget, the Marino and Vanto.
Any feedback on those tubs?
I sell Marquis and Caldera. If you can get the E435 for the same price as a Marino or Vanto you are better off with the Marquis. The 435 with two pumps therapy wise will blow those Calderas away. The E Series is more inline with the Paradise series from Caldera. Nothing wrong with either Caldera but you are getting a real good deal on that Marquis. If size is a issue that would be the only reason to consider the Caldera
Thanks for the input, the size on the Marquis is perfect actually
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Ok, the Artesian Dealer just sent me several options in the Island and South Seas lines. What's the consensus on Artesian? The dealer is a long time dealer good with the BBB
Artesian is solid. Island is of better quality than that of South Seas but Artesian is a grand ol' company.
Of any of them the Artesian has the best pricing
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Ok, the Artesian Dealer just sent me several options in the Island and South Seas lines. What's the consensus on Artesian? The dealer is a long time dealer good with the BBB
Artesian is solid. Island is of better quality than that of South Seas but Artesian is a grand ol' company.
Of any of them the Artesian has the best pricing
Think about which spa you think is best for your needs/desires and then consider which spa you think is the best deal. Hopefully the best spa in your eyes will also be the best price at the same time (or close to it) but that's not always the case. Pricing is important of course but make sure you get the right spa for you because what you buy will be in your yard for a decade plus and that feeling that you saved money lessens over time especially if you second guess yourself down the line about the spa you ended up with. I'm not standing up for or against any particular brand/model, I'm just saying that FOR ME the right spa takes precedence over the best price IFFFF the 2 conflict.
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Ok, the Artesian Dealer just sent me several options in the Island and South Seas lines. What's the consensus on Artesian? The dealer is a long time dealer good with the BBB
Artesian is solid. Island is of better quality than that of South Seas but Artesian is a grand ol' company.
Of any of them the Artesian has the best pricing
Think about which spa you think is best for your needs/desires and then consider which spa you think is the best deal. Hopefully the best spa in your eyes will also be the best price at the same time (or close to it) but that's not always the case. Pricing is important of course but make sure you get the right spa for you because what you buy will be in your yard for a decade plus and that feeling that you saved money lessens over time especially if you second guess yourself down the line about the spa you ended up with. I'm not standing up for or against any particular brand/model, I'm just saying that FOR ME the right spa takes precedence over the best price IFFFF the 2 conflict.
I get that completely, the last time we bought a spa we would up with a 10K spa for that very reason. Hoping we don't have to do there again. We are just looking for a midgrade, decent tub between 5-6k. That seems to be a bit of a Unicorn however
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Marquis makes a good tub that could be in that price range- I want to say their Celebrity Series. I like South Seas too in that price range, a lot. But my only thing is that they're loud. When I sold them I didn't like that they didn't rubber-mount their motors. But as you specifically mentioned both those brands, you'd do well to follow up on them.
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Well Northwinds out, just don't the higher end of a lower line tub plus the dealer has changed places 5 times in 3 years.
The Marquis is out, no follow up from the dealer and just not comfortable with the dealer
The D1 Dream is going to be wet tested on Tuesday
The Artesian Island Nevis 45 is being wet tested this weekend.
Likely going to test the Caldera Marino also
I have a guy trying to get me to look at Vita Spas but not sure it's worth an hour drive with the other options on the table.
Does anyone know if the Caldera's have any sort of air injection to improve the therapy value?
Thanks
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Well Northwinds out, just don't the higher end of a lower line tub plus the dealer has changed places 5 times in 3 years.
The Marquis is out, no follow up from the dealer and just not comfortable with the dealer
The D1 Dream is going to be wet tested on Tuesday
The Artesian Island Nevis 45 is being wet tested this weekend.
Likely going to test the Caldera Marino also
I have a guy trying to get me to look at Vita Spas but not sure it's worth an hour drive with the other options on the table.
Does anyone know if the Caldera's have any sort of air injection to improve the therapy value?
Thanks
All spas use air injection via venturi effect to improve the jet feel.
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Well Northwinds out, just don't the higher end of a lower line tub plus the dealer has changed places 5 times in 3 years.
The Marquis is out, no follow up from the dealer and just not comfortable with the dealer
The D1 Dream is going to be wet tested on Tuesday
The Artesian Island Nevis 45 is being wet tested this weekend.
Likely going to test the Caldera Marino also
I have a guy trying to get me to look at Vita Spas but not sure it's worth an hour drive with the other options on the table.
Does anyone know if the Caldera's have any sort of air injection to improve the therapy value?
Thanks
All spas use air injection via venturi effect to improve the jet feel.
Thanks for that info. I didn't realize that