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Title: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 13, 2017, 02:43:26 pm
X5L floor model with upgraded light package and ozone for $5849 versus new in warehouse from cancelled order R5L with 2 jetpacks and ozone for $6299. I see that the R5L has a longer warranty but is very similar to the X5L other than the jetpacks. The R5L is white in color which I am not crazy about and the X5L is Sunset color which I prefer. I am trying to weigh the pros and cons to make an informed decision. Any help or input would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on November 13, 2017, 03:22:17 pm
 For me the extra couple years of warranty, better filtration, nicer skirt panels and the jetpaks for 450 more bucks would be worth it.    Is it solid white or the platinum shell?   
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: meriflower on November 13, 2017, 03:34:03 pm
If it were me I would get the R5L.  For $450 more gets me a choice of jetpaks, a better warranty, and new.  I also see on the R5L has fixed jets for the hands/wrists and hips on the lounger.  I had a BF and I loved having the jetpaks.  I was one of those owners who changed them around.  Some do not however.  That’s my opinion for what it’s worth - it’s up to you In the end.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 13, 2017, 04:11:00 pm
Thanks so much for your replies. The color is Snow White which I am not crazy about but if I am getting a good deal I think  can live with it. Is there a difference between the White and Platinum? Thanks.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Tman122 on November 13, 2017, 04:14:42 pm
Thanks so much for your replies. The color is Snow White which I am not crazy about but if I am getting a good deal I think  can live with it. Is there a difference between the White and Platinum? Thanks.

If you manage your water properly the white will be OK. I get what you mean though cleaning a ring around the tub sucks. And it becomes so much more visible with white.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 13, 2017, 04:19:59 pm
I agree. I am really not crazy about the white at all and it may be a deal breaker, unless I am getting a really good price. Is $6299 a real good deal? If not, I may pass. Unfortunately I am already over my budgeted price range and won't pay more for a different color.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on November 13, 2017, 04:24:52 pm

  Platinum has greyish swirls in it.   I gotta say the snow white is my least favorite, but not the end of the world.   We sell the R5L for 6700 with ozone.  So yes it is a good deal.  Guessing they are not giving you choice of jetpaks as it is in stock, so which ones are in there if you know?
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 13, 2017, 04:36:15 pm
The jetpacks are Accutherapy and Gyrosage. I have a lot of lower back pain. I am hoping those would help. This is all so confusing. I am also paying cash, which seems like I should get an even better deal. If you are selling them for $6700 and I could choose my own color and jetpacks, it doesn't seem like I am getting a great bargain.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 13, 2017, 05:17:57 pm
I also just heard from another spa dealer with a quote for an Artesian Santa Cruz with Ozone and Frog upgrades for $5295. I'm not sure if this spa is even in the same class as the Bullfrogs but somebody mentioned it was a nice spa on another thread. Maybe this would be an option?
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on November 13, 2017, 07:01:41 pm
 Santa cruz is a nice spa.  Same warranty as the X5L and a better price. 
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: bradleyabell on November 14, 2017, 07:14:12 am
We did not believe the jetpacks were worth the extra $$...Sounds like you need to wet test them both and then make a decision.  You'll know right away if it's worth it or not.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Beck0101 on November 14, 2017, 08:58:25 am
You guys have this big of a problem with the scum line?  Hmm...

I have snow interior and have only had a scum line once or twice in a year+.  Typically wipes off with zero effort, 3 minutes of work with a rag.  I run the "scum bugs" which does everything I need. 

Another thought - you can only really see these issues on white during the daytime.  Myself and most of the tub owners I know generally use our tubs post-dark 99% of the time. 

The lighter colored interiors will make your LED's look better, for what it's worth.

I'd vote for the R...
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 14, 2017, 10:16:53 am
Now you really have me thinking about the white R5L. I could have that one delivered in a couple of weeks versus ordering one and waiting 2 months. But is that $6299 price fair or should I try for a lower price? I was also considering Nordic Stella or Artesian Santa Cruz which are about $1000 cheaper. Are they much worse quality than the Bullfrog R5L? Ugh. My head is spinning.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Clarkp on November 14, 2017, 10:30:14 am
I like the white shell so I *can* see any scum line right away.  I just keep a micro-fiber cloth close by and keep the scum line cleaned off all the time.  I too run the scum bugs and have very little to deal with.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 14, 2017, 12:34:40 pm
The spa dealer just knocked off another $500. With a retail price of $7600, I can get the R5L for $5800, which is close to the X5L price. Should I take this deal even though I’m not crazy about the color and I have no choice on jet packs?
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: meriflower on November 14, 2017, 01:25:10 pm
You could ask if you can wet test using the Accutherapy and the Gyrosage jetpaks on a BF they have up and running - afterall they are made to be moved!  Granted it won't be the R5 model but at least you can try out the jetpaks.  They look like good jetpaks but I never personally owned them.  You can always purchase different jetpaks but last I heard they are $600 ea.  If you're able to wet test using those 2 jetpaks and you like them I would go for it.  If you feel it doesn't provide the best therapy or you hate them then no.  I would not purchase a spa without doing a wet test.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 14, 2017, 02:38:46 pm
Unfortunately, a wet test is not possible. The spa is in their warehouse and they have none on the floor available for a wet test. I realize that is a big issue but there isn't much I can do about it.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: richierich on November 14, 2017, 03:01:00 pm
Try to negotiate for jet packs of your choice. If you like the lay out the r series seems to be the better buy.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: bradleyabell on November 14, 2017, 03:07:11 pm
Unfortunately, a wet test is not possible. The spa is in their warehouse and they have none on the floor available for a wet test. I realize that is a big issue but there isn't much I can do about it.

If they are serious about a sale they will pull one out of their warehouse and fill it...We had a dealer do that for us, who we unfortunately did not end up going with. 

Also - if you love the jet packs, you can always buy some on the side that you like more to use.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: meriflower on November 14, 2017, 05:21:18 pm
Unfortunately, a wet test is not possible. The spa is in their warehouse and they have none on the floor available for a wet test. I realize that is a big issue but there isn't much I can do about it.

So you're not able to wet test a BF spa at all?  I was thinking more of the line to go into a BF spa that they have filled for wet testing and have them put the two jetpaks (Accutherapy and Gyrosage) in.  They don't actually need the whole R5L that is in their warehouse for you to be able to wet test the jetpaks - the jetpaks come out and are able to fit into any A and R series BF spa just not the STIL or X series.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 14, 2017, 06:20:50 pm
It is hard to believe but they are one of the top spa dealers in this area with a showroom of 10-15 spas. None had water in them.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Hottubguy on November 14, 2017, 07:13:39 pm
It is hard to believe but they are one of the top spa dealers in this area with a showroom of 10-15 spas. None had water in them.

I have 3-4 Spas going in my store at once.  In the last 2 years I've had about  3 people wet test them. For as much as it is suggested on here the majority of people don't do it. I have a hard time getting people in spas dry believe it or not. If I was dropping 10k on a spa I would want to make sure it was the right one for me.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 14, 2017, 07:45:41 pm
That makes me feel a little bit better. I totally understand the recommendations to wet test. I never wet tested my first spa. I was feeling like the village idiot for not wet testing. I may just take the plunge. I am now at $5800 for a new Bullfrog R5L with ozone and a free cover lifter. They are charging me an additional $300 to remove my old tub. I unsuccessfully tried to get that included. Wet testing aside, good deal or no deal? And I just want to thank everybody on this board for all their help. It has been invaluable.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Hottubguy on November 14, 2017, 07:56:54 pm
That makes me feel a little bit better. I totally understand the recommendations to wet test. I never wet tested my first spa. I was feeling like the village idiot for not wet testing. I may just take the plunge. I am now at $5800 for a new Bullfrog R5L with ozone and a free cover lifter. They are charging me an additional $300 to remove my old tub. I unsuccessfully tried to get that included. Wet testing aside, good deal or no deal? And I just want to thank everybody on this board for all their help. It has been invaluable.

Sounds like a good deal. The place I get rid of old tubs charges me almost $200 just to take it so $300 is a good deal considering they will have to pay a few guys to get rid of it
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Sorrentino100 on November 14, 2017, 10:32:00 pm
I'd find another Bullfrog dealer and ask them for a wet test. Also, make sure they have every JetPak in-stock, so you can test every single one and pick the two you like best. They are expensive to purchase, so you want to ensure you have the two that best meet your needs.

Sometimes, it takes a bit of work to get what you need. You may feel it's too much work to locate and visit another dealer. It could be a few hour's drive. In the end, it will be worth it.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on November 15, 2017, 10:51:10 am
5800 with ozone and lift is a ridiculous price. 
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 15, 2017, 11:07:47 am
That’s what I am thinking. They may sell the spa somebody else at that price if I don’t act quickly. I could always buy another Jetpack for $500-$600 if I’m not satisfied and still make out OK.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Beck0101 on November 15, 2017, 11:10:22 am
I'd buy it.  Sounds like a great deal.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: bradleyabell on November 15, 2017, 02:48:44 pm
That’s what I am thinking. They may sell the spa somebody else at that price if I don’t act quickly. I could always buy another Jetpack for $500-$600 if I’m not satisfied and still make out OK.

Don't feel rushed...If they sell that one, they can always special order one from Bullfrog - It just takes 2-3 weeks to get in.  If I were you...I would call the dealer and tell them you're ready to sign, but only if they will haul away the old spa for free...Tell them you're using all of your free cash on the spa.  They might bite to close the deal.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 15, 2017, 07:48:59 pm
My bad. The spa company did have a wet test available in another room I did not see during my first visit. I wet tested the jetpacks that were included in my spa. The Gyrosage was awesome. The Acutherapy was awful. I found another one that I really liked the Neck Masseuse. Only problem is that they are about $500-$600 Each. Waiting to hear back if they can give me that jet pack at cost which I think is reasonable. I did give a refundable deposit to hold the spa. After all my research, I think a brand new Bullfrog R5L with ozone and cover lifter is a pretty good deal for $5800.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Sorrentino100 on November 16, 2017, 12:24:41 am
The Bullfrog dealer should provide you with your choice of JetPaks. You really should test ALL of them and pick the ones you like best.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 16, 2017, 04:44:02 am
I agree. But my only problem is that this tub is in stock from a cancelled order. So the Jetpacks on the spa were what the previous buyer ordered. That is why I am getting a better break on the price. I am hoping to change out one of the jetpacks at a fair price. I’m not sure of the dealers cost on the jetpacks. I may end up passing on this tub if we can’t reach an agreement. But it will cost me more to order one and I will not expect delivery until next year.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: bradleyabell on November 16, 2017, 07:17:31 am
A cancelled order should be treated no differently than any other tub on their floor...Maybe that's their sales tactic??

I would not budge.  I would demand that they replace the jet pack you don't like at no extra cost.  It's not like you're asking for an extra one.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 16, 2017, 07:34:12 am
I do believe their story about the cancelled order. It was a tub that I was not even looking at. Any other tub I want has to be ordered. I am going to try and get the jetpack changed out. Otherwise, I may just have to pay more and wait 2 months for the tub of my choice. Is there any place that sells jetpacks at a decent price? I can’t find anything online.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on November 16, 2017, 09:09:56 am

 I would ask and see what they can do discount wise for another jet pack.  Deals are deals, "demanding" something from a dealer doesn't sit well with me.     I think your dealer has been more than fair.  At that price trust me he is not getting rich off you.  To avoid the removal charge get rid of it yourself.  Push, pull or cut the thing up into pcs and take it to the dump.  My guess is you will appreciate the 300 disposal fee for them to do it.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 16, 2017, 12:27:27 pm
I have absolutely no problem paying the $300 to remove my old tub. My only problem would be having to pay an additional $500-$600 to swap out one of my jetpacks. That would take a big chunk out of my discounted price.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: d00nut on November 16, 2017, 01:09:05 pm
I would demand that they replace the jet pack you don't like at no extra cost.  It's not like you're asking for an extra one.
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As a dealer, I would say no.  I had many sales people swap jet paks due to customers wanting different ones for floor models.  We gave a significant discount (still do) for floor models.  The only thing is they don't get to choose the jet paks.  If they want another one, they can pay for it at a discounted rate.

It is an inventory nightmare, because we ended up with orphan jet paks left and right.  Jet Paks come in 8 different colors with stainless or no stainless, and have 17 different styles.  Do you have any idea what type of space we are talking?  Plus they are somewhat fragile, and need to be stored properly.

I'm not the dealer here in this situation, but I wouldn't be in a position to give the big discount on the floor model AND give a jet pak of choice.  Doesn't make good business sense
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Sorrentino100 on November 16, 2017, 03:54:01 pm
It's not really a deal if you're not getting what you want. Wet test it again, try all the JetPaks and order it with the JetPaks you want.

Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: BullFrogSpasMN on November 16, 2017, 05:45:40 pm
Just some things to think about when buying a brand new spa....every month you'll spend between $30-$75 on electricity and water-care supplies, every 3-4 years you'll spend $500 on a new cover, eventually you'll need a new heating element and most likely a new pump which costs $. At least 2-3 times a year you'll need to spend time/energy/water on draining and refilling the spa and all of this can continue on for a period of 15-17 years of ownership.  Whats the point of this? spend the money and get what you want upfront..if you nickel and dime a spa purchase over a few hundred bucks you'll just be upset and won't use it as much if you don't get what you truly want...just my .02  Good Luck!
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 16, 2017, 06:00:27 pm
Great advice.......Amen!
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: d00nut on November 16, 2017, 06:13:26 pm
Just some things to think about when buying a brand new spa....every month you'll spend between $30-$75 on electricity and water-care supplies, every 3-4 years you'll spend $500 on a new cover, eventually you'll need a new heating element and most likely a new pump which costs $. At least 2-3 times a year you'll need to spend time/energy/water on draining and refilling the spa and all of this can continue on for a period of 15-17 years of ownership.  Whats the point of this? spend the money and get what you want upfront..if you nickel and dime a spa purchase over a few hundred bucks you'll just be upset and won't use it as much if you don't get what you truly want...just my .02  Good Luck!

Can this be a sticky?
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Hottubguy on November 16, 2017, 08:33:01 pm
A cancelled order should be treated no differently than any other tub on their floor...Maybe that's their sales tactic??

I would not budge.  I would demand that they replace the jet pack you don't like at no extra cost.  It's not like you're asking for an extra one.

Demand lol. That should go over well. I don’t do demands very well. Your more apt to piss off the dealer with “demands”   The people who demand stuff end up being the biggest pains in the @sses who you wished you never dealt with in the first place. I have learned to not deal with these types of people. Better off in the long run. The OP is doing his due diligence but he is a customer I would t mind working with. He gets it, nothing is free and special orders cost money
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Tman122 on November 16, 2017, 09:19:22 pm
Just some things to think about when buying a brand new spa....every month you'll spend between $30-$75 on electricity and water-care supplies, every 3-4 years you'll spend $500 on a new cover, eventually you'll need a new heating element and most likely a new pump which costs $. At least 2-3 times a year you'll need to spend time/energy/water on draining and refilling the spa and all of this can continue on for a period of 15-17 years of ownership.  Whats the point of this? spend the money and get what you want upfront..if you nickel and dime a spa purchase over a few hundred bucks you'll just be upset and won't use it as much if you don't get what you truly want...just my .02  Good Luck!

Can this be a sticky?

Make this a sticky, get the tub that is best for you. Skip the BF. There are better tubs out there. And there may be one you like a lot better. Go look.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 16, 2017, 09:38:19 pm
I am still waiting to hear back from the spa dealer. What would a fair “discounted” price be for a jet pack? I found them online for about $600.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 16, 2017, 09:40:40 pm
What tubs do you recommend that are better than BF and comparable to the R5L?
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on November 16, 2017, 09:50:31 pm
What tubs do you recommend that are better than BF and comparable to the R5L?

    He hates BF because of their sales tactics.  So to him, he says pick what works for "you" but skip the BF.  Which I believe ironically was a BF you liked other then the one jet pack.     

 Price wise if you were my customer I would probably do 450 to 5.  Maybe throw in some extra chems or a set of filters to close the deal.. 

  My thoughts on it is you are going to rack your brain trying to figuring out if it's a good deal or not.   Ask the dealer to give you their best price on a spa ordered in, color you like and the packs you like.   If it's in you budget and you like the spa/it's the right fit for you buy it.   Or take the one on discount, get the pack you like and be happy. 
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Hottubguy on November 16, 2017, 10:43:17 pm
For $5800 there isn’t much that compares. Maybe a Black Friday deal?  I know this time of the year I’m blowing out spas to make room for 2018 on order.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 17, 2017, 06:11:13 am
That $5800 price already includes an entire chemical package valued at close to $150 and a cover lifter valued at $199.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Tman122 on November 17, 2017, 06:54:56 am
What tubs do you recommend that are better than BF and comparable to the R5L?

    He hates BF because of their sales tactics.  So to him, he says pick what works for "you" but skip the BF.  Which I believe ironically was a BF you liked other then the one jet pack.     

 Price wise if you were my customer I would probably do 450 to 5.  Maybe throw in some extra chems or a set of filters to close the deal.. 

  My thoughts on it is you are going to rack your brain trying to figuring out if it's a good deal or not.   Ask the dealer to give you their best price on a spa ordered in, color you like and the packs you like.   If it's in you budget and you like the spa/it's the right fit for you buy it.   Or take the one on discount, get the pack you like and be happy.

I don't hate BF. You BF guys are the only ones who say that. I want potential tub owners to get whats right for them. So they stay in the tub family. DJJ have you ever owned a tub?

You guys put words in my mouth a lot.

Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 17, 2017, 07:39:16 am
I have owned the same tub, my first and only, for 16 years. It was a Thermospa which I know is not a highly regarded company. It actually still runs perfectly but has sprung a few leaks and the spa tech told me it wasn’t really worth fixing. I luckily had great luck with my Thermospa but it was an impulse buy and I had done very little research. I am trying to do a little better on the research this time. As far as the BF spa dealers “sales tactics”, the place I’m dealing with had no sales pitch or pressure whatsoever. They are so busy that I usually have to wait for a return call and their deliveries are backed up for weeks. They have not once initiated a phone call or contacted me after my initial visit. I am just looking for a small 2-3 person spa from reputable company at a good price. I was originally looking at a BF X5L but an upgrade to the R5L for only $400-$500 more seems like a great deal. I’m not crazy about the white color but I think I can get past that. I wet tested the jetpacks. Loved one. Not crazy about the other one. If I can get that changed out at a reasonable cost I may buy this tub. I personally think the jetpacks are a great idea.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: bradleyabell on November 17, 2017, 08:00:44 am
A cancelled order should be treated no differently than any other tub on their floor...Maybe that's their sales tactic??

I would not budge.  I would demand that they replace the jet pack you don't like at no extra cost.  It's not like you're asking for an extra one.

Demand lol. That should go over well. I don’t do demands very well. Your more apt to piss off the dealer with “demands”   The people who demand stuff end up being the biggest pains in the @sses who you wished you never dealt with in the first place. I have learned to not deal with these types of people. Better off in the long run. The OP is doing his due diligence but he is a customer I would t mind working with. He gets it, nothing is free and special orders cost money


When I said "demand", I didn't mean "YOU BETTER DO THIS OR ELSE"...I meant it more as make it an "expectation" and to make it known that is what you need to happen.  I negotiate for a living, so I'm not making this stuff up - It works!
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: bradleyabell on November 17, 2017, 08:03:41 am
I have owned the same tub, my first and only, for 16 years. It was a Thermospa which I know is not a highly regarded company. It actually still runs perfectly but has sprung a few leaks and the spa tech told me it wasn’t really worth fixing. I luckily had great luck with my Thermospa but it was an impulse buy and I had done very little research. I am trying to do a little better on the research this time. As far as the BF spa dealers “sales tactics”, the place I’m dealing with had no sales pitch or pressure whatsoever. They are so busy that I usually have to wait for a return call and their deliveries are backed up for weeks. They have not once initiated a phone call or contacted me after my initial visit. I am just looking for a small 2-3 person spa from reputable company at a good price. I was originally looking at a BF X5L but an upgrade to the R5L for only $400-$500 more seems like a great deal. I’m not crazy about the white color but I think I can get past that. I wet tested the jetpacks. Loved one. Not crazy about the other one. If I can get that changed out at a reasonable cost I may buy this tub. I personally think the jetpacks are a great idea.

I have an X8L and we went with the white/pearl color and love it FWIW.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 17, 2017, 08:56:24 am
I think I would be fine with the white pearl. This one is Snow White which is about as white as you can get.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Sorrentino100 on November 17, 2017, 10:38:51 am
Bullfrog is now offering a factory rebate. You should look into that; it may be similar to their zero percent/48 month financing.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 17, 2017, 01:47:01 pm
Thanks for the info. I will check into that rebate.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 17, 2017, 04:01:17 pm
Sorrentino is the best! Bingo! I just checked on the rebate with my spa dealer. $500 rebates started today. I just ordered a brand new spa in the color and jetpacks of my choice for almost $400 less than I was paying for the in stock spa I was settling for. I will have to wait a few weeks longer but the wait will be worth it. Thanks to all on this board who helped me and I owe Sorrentino a beer!
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on November 17, 2017, 06:04:59 pm
Sorrentino is the best! Bingo! I just checked on the rebate with my spa dealer. $500 rebates started today. I just ordered a brand new spa in the color and jetpacks of my choice for almost $400 less than I was paying for the in stock spa I was settling for. I will have to wait a few weeks longer but the wait will be worth it. Thanks to all on this board who helped me and I owe Sorrentino a beer!

  So he is selling a new ordered in for how much before rebate?   I am confused on how you are paying almost 400 less then the 5800 spa that was discounted?
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: BullFrogSpasMN on November 17, 2017, 06:39:38 pm
Sorrentino is the best! Bingo! I just checked on the rebate with my spa dealer. $500 rebates started today. I just ordered a brand new spa in the color and jetpacks of my choice for almost $400 less than I was paying for the in stock spa I was settling for. I will have to wait a few weeks longer but the wait will be worth it. Thanks to all on this board who helped me and I owe Sorrentino a beer!

Nice! Great Decision, I sell a lot of the R5L model, great little powerful spa with incredible efficiency
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 17, 2017, 07:26:07 pm
I am paying almost $400 less because I was given a price of $385 to replace the existing jetpack(which I feel is a more than fair price) that I didn’t want. Now that I can order the spa color and jet packs I want with the $500 rebate (which is exactly the discount I was receiving), I save $385. I get everything I want for $385 less than the spa I was “settling” for.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: wondertubs on November 18, 2017, 07:36:45 pm
Thanks for the info, by the way, I was just looking up the X series: "Enjoy legendary reliability and comfort at an incredible price"... so what they mean by "incredible" then is the smallest tub with the fewest options starts at around $6000? What! :o
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: DJJ on November 19, 2017, 02:51:47 am
Maybe you should upgrade to an R series then. Removable jet packs of your choice. Wrist and hip jets. Ozone. Cover. Cover lifter.  $150 worth of free starter chemicals. Free delivery......... all for $5800.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: wondertubs on November 19, 2017, 09:25:36 am
Oh yeah, so the X-series is only there to make somebody want to spend as much or more on the R-series, instead of really being a lower priced hot tub. That's incredible, like they said.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on November 19, 2017, 09:39:41 am
  If the spa is sold where it actually should be sold price wise, then yes the X series is a much lesser priced spa.  DJJ got a really, really good price!
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: BullFrogSpasMN on November 19, 2017, 01:40:04 pm
Thanks for the info, by the way, I was just looking up the X series: "Enjoy legendary reliability and comfort at an incredible price"... so what they mean by "incredible" then is the smallest tub with the fewest options starts at around $6000? What! :o

yup, 5-6k for most of your smaller mid-level tubs...our average ticket out of my store is around $9,500.  The high end stuff "loaded up" with accessories coming in at 14,000-17,000 and swim spas coming in 17-30k.  If you want a 2-4k hot tub you'll have to look at Chinese stuff, or cheap lines coming out of Mexico, American Quality comes with a price
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: wondertubs on November 19, 2017, 01:54:26 pm
That's alright, I just don't see why the x-series exists so much in this case (although it is kind of hidden down there on the website, so that might explain as much, like it shouldn't be taken seriously for being a so-called "incredible price", as opposed to "our American quality pricing includes the cost of thinking up misleading slogans", just saying—that's more like leapfrog, and has the quality of a lie).
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: Tman122 on November 19, 2017, 05:05:09 pm
Thanks for the info, by the way, I was just looking up the X series: "Enjoy legendary reliability and comfort at an incredible price"... so what they mean by "incredible" then is the smallest tub with the fewest options starts at around $6000? What! :o

yup, 5-6k for most of your smaller mid-level tubs...our average ticket out of my store is around $9,500.  The high end stuff "loaded up" with accessories coming in at 14,000-17,000 and swim spas coming in 17-30k.  If you want a 2-4k hot tub you'll have to look at Chinese stuff, or cheap lines coming out of Mexico, American Quality comes with a price

Mexico is in America.
Title: Re: Which Bullfrog is the better deal?
Post by: wondertubs on November 20, 2017, 09:43:57 am
"Essential Hot Tubs" are said to be made in the US, and cost about half as much.  Maybe they're lying about where it's made, somehow, either way there is deceptive advertising going on, that's for sure.