Hot Tub Forum
Brand Specific Forums => Jacuzzi Hot Tubs => Topic started by: mtyogi17 on May 19, 2018, 07:16:32 pm
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In my search for a hot tub for my rental property in mountains of NC, I have noticed that the new Jacuzzi models are using LX pumps which is a brand made in China. I like what Jacuzzi offers in the j-210 and j-245 but the Chinese pumps turn me off. Should I just decide on Caldera Vanto, Hot Springs Rhythm, Marquis, Clearwater, or Nordic?
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Of the brands you listed, the Clearwater in my opinion is the lowest quality. Nordic makes a very basic, but fine hot tub. I don't put it on the same level though as the Jacuzzi, Caldera, Hot Spring, and Marquis. Buy the hot tub that is best for you and from the dealer you trust the most.
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In my search for a hot tub for my rental property in mountains of NC, I have noticed that the new Jacuzzi models are using LX pumps which is a brand made in China. I like what Jacuzzi offers in the j-210 and j-245 but the Chinese pumps turn me off. Should I just decide on Caldera Vanto, Hot Springs Rhythm, Marquis, Clearwater, or Nordic?
Are you sure the pumps are made in china?
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Tman122 Yes, I have seen the pumps. They are Guangdong LX pumps from China. I have pics on my phone, not sure how to upload them. The showroom had a tub with panels off to view pump compartment. I also looked inside other tubs. Is this something to be concerned about and just move on from Jacuzzi or keep them in my search?
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Tman122 Yes, I have seen the pumps. They are Guangdong LX pumps from China. I have pics on my phone, not sure how to upload them. The showroom had a tub with panels off to view pump compartment. I also looked inside other tubs. Is this something to be concerned about and just move on from Jacuzzi or keep them in my search?
Was it a true Jacuzzi brand? Some people like to call them all Jacuzzi.
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Tman122 Yes, real Jacuzzi brand at 2 very large Jacuzzi brand dealers. Real Jacuzzi brand hot tubs using Guangdong LX pumps from China. Saw it with my own eyes. You seem to doubt what I am saying.
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Do you dislike the Chinese motors aspect b/c the product is made overseas? If so- Jacuzzi is made in Mexico. Just tossing that out there. To some- that is important. To others, not so much.
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My concern is with the quality, reliability, and longevity of the Chinese Guangdong LX pumps vs. American pumps. Check my original post. I know Jacuzzi and Hot Springs are assembled in Mexico. My research shows that Jacuzzi may have been using Chinese pumps since 2009. Would you buy a hot tub with Chinese pumps? Do any of you professionals have experience with them?
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I didn’t know that Jacuzzi was using guang dong or whatever they are for pumps. I still think they make a decent tub but there are others I would pick before Jacuzzi.
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If you like the Jacuzzi buy it. Stop sweating the small stuff, if it's that big of a deal buy something else. We sold Jacuzzi from 2003 to 2014. I get very few call to replace the pump. Actually call it the motor that runs the pump/impeller head.
That said the J235 and J245 were/are very good running price point spa's.
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Thanks Jacuzzi Jim. That's the kind of feedback I am looking for. Any experience with round j-210?
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Round is round, most every brand is very similar in size and pump. Not the most comfortable, but if you just into soaking they are pretty good. Most also have a fantastic whirlpool jet. I sell maybe 3 a year. Sometimes the simplest spas seem to have the lesser of problems that any brand can have. Chinese parts or not.
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I'm disappointing about the Chinese pumps. Not because I think they are bad pumps but because Jacuzzi used to have the best pumps proprietary to them.
Since 09 tells me I have been away from a Jacuzzi brand for a long time.
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Do you dislike the Chinese motors aspect b/c the product is made overseas? If so- Jacuzzi is made in Mexico. Just tossing that out there. To some- that is important. To others, not so much.
I don't want to get into a whole illegal immigration debate here, but I've figured a few good jobs over there can't hurt. My only disappointment with my made in Mexico tub was 1. Sloppy looking wiring. (Everything works, so it was wired right) 2. Left over sawdust inside the cabinet that wasn't cleaned up prior to shipment, but the tub is still good.
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Do you dislike the Chinese motors aspect b/c the product is made overseas? If so- Jacuzzi is made in Mexico. Just tossing that out there. To some- that is important. To others, not so much.
I don't want to get into a whole illegal immigration debate here, but I've figured a few good jobs over there can't hurt. My only disappointment with my made in Mexico tub was 1. Sloppy looking wiring. (Everything works, so it was wired right) 2. Left over sawdust inside the cabinet that wasn't cleaned up prior to shipment, but the tub is still good.
No worries- And wasn't trying to stir the pot either. I work for a manufacturer based in the US and it is nice to employ people in the city where I reside. But I also don't tell people how to spend their money and to each there own so I don't press the issue. And we all know that not everything you can buy in the industry is going to be made in the USA, no matter how hard you try.
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Do you dislike the Chinese motors aspect b/c the product is made overseas? If so- Jacuzzi is made in Mexico. Just tossing that out there. To some- that is important. To others, not so much.
I don't want to get into a whole illegal immigration debate here, but I've figured a few good jobs over there can't hurt. My only disappointment with my made in Mexico tub was 1. Sloppy looking wiring. (Everything works, so it was wired right) 2. Left over sawdust inside the cabinet that wasn't cleaned up prior to shipment, but the tub is still good.
No worries- And wasn't trying to stir the pot either. I work for a manufacturer based in the US and it is nice to employ people in the city where I reside. But I also don't tell people how to spend their money and to each there own so I don't press the issue. And we all know that not everything you can buy in the industry is going to be made in the USA, no matter how hard you try.
You aren't the only poster here who brings the subject up when they see a window directly (or indirectly) into the subject and its understandable with your link to Artesian. What we don't know is what % of people this matters to and to what extent.
I also wonder what people in foreign countries say about buying a hot tub exported from the US since every major US maker exports all over the globe?
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Do you dislike the Chinese motors aspect b/c the product is made overseas? If so- Jacuzzi is made in Mexico. Just tossing that out there. To some- that is important. To others, not so much.
I don't want to get into a whole illegal immigration debate here, but I've figured a few good jobs over there can't hurt. My only disappointment with my made in Mexico tub was 1. Sloppy looking wiring. (Everything works, so it was wired right) 2. Left over sawdust inside the cabinet that wasn't cleaned up prior to shipment, but the tub is still good.
No worries- And wasn't trying to stir the pot either. I work for a manufacturer based in the US and it is nice to employ people in the city where I reside. But I also don't tell people how to spend their money and to each there own so I don't press the issue. And we all know that not everything you can buy in the industry is going to be made in the USA, no matter how hard you try.
You aren't the only poster here who brings the subject up when they see a window directly (or indirectly) into the subject and its understandable with your link to Artesian. What we don't know is what % of people this matters to and to what extent.
I also wonder what people in foreign countries say about buying a hot tub exported from the US since every major US maker exports all over the globe?
That is an interesting question- I am not associated with Artesian Spas as I no longer work for a dealer but I now work for a manufacturer and I do know that our UK dealers do promote "made in the USA" as a selling tool, signifying that it is quality-made (which is kind of surreal). Their reasoning is that some Chinese-made brands (that they've carried) just are not on the same level as US-brands (overall quality of US tubs > Chinese tubs). I did ask about some European tubs and they didn't have as much input, save for a few dealers who've carried them and weren't impressed.
Your question is fascinating and I'd be interested in other perspectives.
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I think the people who use the "buy American" mantra should take a closer look at their lives.
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Do you dislike the Chinese motors aspect b/c the product is made overseas? If so- Jacuzzi is made in Mexico. Just tossing that out there. To some- that is important. To others, not so much.
I don't want to get into a whole illegal immigration debate here, but I've figured a few good jobs over there can't hurt. My only disappointment with my made in Mexico tub was 1. Sloppy looking wiring. (Everything works, so it was wired right) 2. Left over sawdust inside the cabinet that wasn't cleaned up prior to shipment, but the tub is still good.
No worries- And wasn't trying to stir the pot either. I work for a manufacturer based in the US and it is nice to employ people in the city where I reside. But I also don't tell people how to spend their money and to each there own so I don't press the issue. And we all know that not everything you can buy in the industry is going to be made in the USA, no matter how hard you try.
You aren't the only poster here who brings the subject up when they see a window directly (or indirectly) into the subject and its understandable with your link to Artesian. What we don't know is what % of people this matters to and to what extent.
I also wonder what people in foreign countries say about buying a hot tub exported from the US since every major US maker exports all over the globe?
That is an interesting question- I am not associated with Artesian Spas as I no longer work for a dealer but I now work for a manufacturer and I do know that our UK dealers do promote "made in the USA" as a selling tool, signifying that it is quality-made (which is kind of surreal). Their reasoning is that some Chinese-made brands (that they've carried) just are not on the same level as US-brands (overall quality of US tubs > Chinese tubs). I did ask about some European tubs and they didn't have as much input, save for a few dealers who've carried them and weren't impressed.
Your question is fascinating and I'd be interested in other perspectives.
OK my mistake, I thought you had said you went from an Artesian dealer to working at the Artesian manufacturing facility.