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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: jeff925 on October 26, 2009, 04:02:47 pm

Title: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: jeff925 on October 26, 2009, 04:02:47 pm
I have a Hot spring spa I bought in Feb 2007. I use it 1-2 times a week. last night when i went to use it the cover was heavy. Water had seeped in and was actually sloshing around in the underside of the cover on both halves.

I called my Hot Springs dealer and they said the warranty on the cover had run out. and the life of a cover is 2-3 years. they said I needed to buy a new one for $399.

That seems like a pretty low life expextancey? I thought HS stand behind thier products more. Should I contact HS directly?
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: Peteyboy on October 26, 2009, 04:08:00 pm
I don't think you will get anywhere with the manufacturer - but it's worth a try.

Usually when a cover takes on water we find the water is actually inside the plastic encasing the styrofoam inserts. Most times it because a customer has let the pH get low and the acid water compromises the plastic so that the styrofoam can wick up the water.

I would look for any holes in the cover. You can take out the inserts (the cover has zippers) and let them dry in the sun - then inspect the plastic to see if it is compromised - if so seal it with shipping tape.

Good Luck
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: Spatech_tuo on October 26, 2009, 06:25:49 pm
I have a Hot spring spa I bought in Feb 2007. I use it 1-2 times a week. last night when i went to use it the cover was heavy. Water had seeped in and was actually sloshing around in the underside of the cover on both halves.

I called my Hot Springs dealer and they said the warranty on the cover had run out. and the life of a cover is 2-3 years. they said I needed to buy a new one for $399.

That seems like a pretty low life expextancey? I thought HS stand behind thier products more. Should I contact HS directly?

Some companies are better about honoring their warranty and Watkins is certainly one of them. This however is asking them to honor beyond their warranty but its worth a try because usually covers last longer than 2˝ years as yours has. Sometimes people ask how long a cover will last but its tough to say exactly so I often respond "2-6 years but most last 4 or 5". If the vinyl is in good shape you can also look to replace just the cores and reuse the vinyl so ask the dealer what that would cost.
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: ejf The Spa Guy on October 26, 2009, 08:49:04 pm
i would agree with spatech t.u.o on this. also a lot of manufacturers refer you to the cover manufacturers its out of there hands, you may want to followup with the company that makes theres. it may be sunstar, they are apretty good company, if it is cal covers pretty tough to get done,  hope this helps
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on October 26, 2009, 09:28:23 pm
They make their own covers.
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: Vanguard on October 26, 2009, 10:43:20 pm
i would agree with spatech t.u.o on this. also a lot of manufacturers refer you to the cover manufacturers its out of there hands, you may want to followup with the company that makes theres. it may be sunstar, they are apretty good company, if it is cal covers pretty tough to get done,  hope this helps

Dr. Spa is correct, Watkins makes their own covers. 
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: Bonibelle on October 27, 2009, 08:28:50 am
Just a suggestion because I think this has helped my cover survive..My cover is almost 4 years old and in excellent condition. I clean the top and apply the 303 regularly and I use a spa blanket. The spa blanket protects the underside of the cover from chemical deteriation as well as adding some insulating value.  Some people think the spa blanket is a pain to use, but I think it has helped my cover stay in great condition. The spa blanket doesn't have a real long life so replacing it may become a bit expensive, but I am happy NOT to have the hassel of replacing my cover yet...and looking at it right now, I probably will get many more years out of it.... ;)..

Oh and I guess I should admit, I am not good about leaving the cover off when shocking. ::).and that really contributes to the destruction of your cover..the spa blanket buffers all that chemical contact... ;)

Doc carries the spa blanket.
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: Shaamus on October 27, 2009, 03:22:02 pm
From what you describe, it sounds like the water is trapped between the vinyl and the outer plastic barrier.  If this is the case, just completely remove the cover standing it up on its end and allow the water to drain out.  Typically if you hear the water splashing around it's not a big deal.  Just let it drain.
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: kervis on October 28, 2009, 07:43:49 am
I don't think you will get anywhere with the manufacturer - but it's worth a try.

Usually when a cover takes on water we find the water is actually inside the plastic encasing the styrofoam inserts. Most times it because a customer has let the pH get low and the acid water compromises the plastic so that the styrofoam can wick up the water.

I would look for any holes in the cover. You can take out the inserts (the cover has zippers) and let them dry in the sun - then inspect the plastic to see if it is compromised - if so seal it with shipping tape.

Good Luck

Thanks for sharing this DIY tip--thanks! 
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: Peteyboy on October 28, 2009, 03:51:43 pm
My pleasure - make sure you take the time to seal the plastic VERY well - you don't want to do it twice.
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on October 28, 2009, 04:21:24 pm
It wont really matter much as the packing tape will begin to fail in about a year.
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: Peteyboy on October 28, 2009, 05:05:46 pm
Good point Doc - packing tape isn't the best - any other ideas on tape?

And I think it was suggested that you can replace just the inserts.

Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: ejf The Spa Guy on October 28, 2009, 05:09:31 pm
thanks dr. spa learn something new everyday... appreciate it...
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: Bonibelle on October 29, 2009, 08:01:44 am
spa blanket
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: Gary on October 29, 2009, 01:49:14 pm
If it is out of warranty it is out of warranty, expected life of the part is irrelevant.

A consumers agrees to the terms of the warranty when they purchase the product.

 >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: jeff925 on October 29, 2009, 04:49:52 pm
I unzipped the cover and the vapor barrier around the foam was deteriorated and the foan was wet. looks like I will need a new cover soon. I drained the water out for now. I will keep do so as long as I can before shelling out 400 bucks.

I keep my Ph dialed in. I usually leave the cover off for 10-15 minutes after a shock treatment. maybe with the next cover I will leave it off for a longer period of time after a shock.
Title: Re: Issue with Hot Springs Spa Cover
Post by: TubsAndCues on November 05, 2009, 03:12:43 pm
Good point Doc - packing tape isn't the best - any other ideas on tape?

And I think it was suggested that you can replace just the inserts.



I've had very good luck with my customers using the tape made for shrink wrapping boats, rv's, etc.  You can pick it up at pretty much any marine store.  Also, if you use this, I've heard using a hair dryer on the tape after it's adhered really helped it stick.

I've been recommending this for about 6 years or more now, and only had positive responses to date.