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Out of anyone's control, be prepared to have some patience, if you don't I suggest waiting a couple years to buy a new spa or attempt to find something quality/used.  8)
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Life Expectancy of Hot Tub
« Last post by Tman122 on May 07, 2021, 07:20:08 am »
Thermospas was not known for being crappy, but they were known for being overpriced and difficult to find repair techs for.
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Life Expectancy of Hot Tub
« Last post by Mikedee on May 06, 2021, 01:11:45 pm »
Spatech

You made me laugh when you mentioned your wifeís Pontiac Fiero.. I also wanted one and my dad refused to let me buy it saying it was gonna be a headache .. I agree with you that you canít base a trend just cause i had good luck with Thermospas.. You are correct about my water maintenance though.. I was always a stickler and still am about proper sanitation, and good balanced water chemistry..I believe itís one of the reasons my tub has lasted so long and the components lasted.. Iím hoping it will continue working for a few more years til we retire and sell the house but either way it worked out well in my case ..
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Life Expectancy of Hot Tub
« Last post by Spatech_tuo on May 06, 2021, 12:46:15 pm »
What brand is your tub, MikeDee?

Iím almost embarrassed to say as I know the brand isnít popular amongst many posters on this forum. That being said itís a Thermospas, Model Park Avenue.. I bought back in 1999..

And here we are in 2021 and your tub is still working (i'm guessing). It's a rotomolded tub so the shell should be still solid. If it's still doing what you bought it for and you still enjoy it, then I would say it owes you nothing. Even now, if you had to put $1000 in repairs in it, it's worth it because it does what you want it to. Today, you have a tub, I'm still waiting for mine and thousands of other people won't have one for months to years. Enjoy what you have.

Tub still works fine mechanically...Shell has a couple of bubbles in it at this point..I agree the tub owes me nothing at this point ( my kids got to enjoy it growing up as did we)...Although I can't remember the exact amount I paid, I'd say the $5k or so it cost me back in 1999 was well worth the money and I'm glad I did it when I first bought my house and the kids were young..

Make no mistake, when we claim certain brands are better or worse than others based on history we mean on average. There are always outliers. Many here will make positives claims about Artesian, Arctic, Bullfrog, Caldera, D1, Hot Springs, Jacuzzi and Sundance (and others) but you'll also see some customers on occasion come on claiming their reputation is untrue because they owned one and had problems. Similarly some may not be fans of other brands like Cal Spas, Master, Thermospas...  over the years certainly there are people who can say they've owned one and it has been great. Samples of 1 aren't a trend. Same with cars, any brand that is considered great has stories that say otherwise while brands/models that fizzled due to quality will have cars still on the road many years later (my wife sighs every time she see a Fierro wishing the beloved car she had when I met her was still in our garage, in reality it was often in the dealer's service garage).

Its great that your spa has lasted the test of time and you probably were an influence to some degree with the way you maintained it. After 22 years its not a surprise the acrylic/Fiberglass shell has a few bubbles, not uncommon for that time/vintage. Are you looking to replace it because its out of commission or is it still running but you see the end coming soon?
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Life Expectancy of Hot Tub
« Last post by Mikedee on May 06, 2021, 10:00:55 am »
What brand is your tub, MikeDee?

Iím almost embarrassed to say as I know the brand isnít popular amongst many posters on this forum. That being said itís a Thermospas, Model Park Avenue.. I bought back in 1999..

And here we are in 2021 and your tub is still working (i'm guessing). It's a rotomolded tub so the shell should be still solid. If it's still doing what you bought it for and you still enjoy it, then I would say it owes you nothing. Even now, if you had to put $1000 in repairs in it, it's worth it because it does what you want it to. Today, you have a tub, I'm still waiting for mine and thousands of other people won't have one for months to years. Enjoy what you have.

Tub still works fine mechanically...Shell has a couple of bubbles in it at this point..I agree the tub owes me nothing at this point ( my kids got to enjoy it growing up as did we)...Although I can't remember the exact amount I paid, I'd say the $5k or so it cost me back in 1999 was well worth the money and I'm glad I did it when I first bought my house and the kids were young..
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Life Expectancy of Hot Tub
« Last post by cranbiz on May 06, 2021, 08:43:50 am »
What brand is your tub, MikeDee?

Iím almost embarrassed to say as I know the brand isnít popular amongst many posters on this forum. That being said itís a Thermospas, Model Park Avenue.. I bought back in 1999..

And here we are in 2021 and your tub is still working (i'm guessing). It's a rotomolded tub so the shell should be still solid. If it's still doing what you bought it for and you still enjoy it, then I would say it owes you nothing. Even now, if you had to put $1000 in repairs in it, it's worth it because it does what you want it to. Today, you have a tub, I'm still waiting for mine and thousands of other people won't have one for months to years. Enjoy what you have.
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Life Expectancy of Hot Tub
« Last post by Mikedee on May 05, 2021, 10:21:30 pm »
What brand is your tub, MikeDee?

Iím almost embarrassed to say as I know the brand isnít popular amongst many posters on this forum. That being said itís a Thermospas, Model Park Avenue.. I bought back in 1999..
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Hot Spring Spas / Re: Sovereign or Flair
« Last post by MKhottub8 on May 05, 2021, 07:57:17 pm »
Hello All,

I have ordered a Sovereign and it will be here in July/August. However my dealer has a Flair in for immediate delivery. Price is the same for either one. I have sat in both dry and have wet tested other Highlife and Limelight models so I have an idea of different jets. Any advice is greatly appreciated.


Thanks
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Did you previously review both then decide to get the Sovereign or is this a comparison you didn't previously consider. If this is a second review on a decision you'd made earlier that's fine but just make sure you're not letting a couple months of availability dictate which spa will be sitting in your yard for the next 15 years.


No this is a second review as I did not consider the Flair as an option. Just wish I could have wet tested both of them!
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This is the same throughout the entire industry.  We've been taking what the manufacturers are telling us and adding more padding to cover our butt.  Even with the additional time, we are still not meeting projections.  It's just absolutely bonkers.  We are letting people cancel at any time and when they do, those spas are selling before we hang up the phone. 

At the end of the day, I think most dealers are trying to be honest and  are giving the best information that they have at the time.  Unfortunately, new unforeseen supply chain issues continue to pop up.  It's getting frustrating to continually get yelled at by customers.  I promise, we aren't trying to be shady.
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Life Expectancy of Hot Tub
« Last post by MGM on May 05, 2021, 04:56:39 pm »
What brand is your tub, MikeDee?
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