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Brand Specific Forums => Bullfrog Spas => Topic started by: zinger084 on March 21, 2018, 10:51:07 am
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Hello All,
First post, but I've been trolling for awhile.
I own a 1995 Sundance Marin and it's seen better days. Looking into a Bullfrog R7.
Two questions:
-I'm in Northeast Ohio and getting rid of this Sundance, and if there are takers, please PM me.
-I'm being quoted in the $7400 range plus tax for the R7 with recirc pump, ozone (base I assume), and matching acrylic jetpacks. Thoughts on cost?
Thanks!
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Yes go buy it immediately. That price is beyond insane! Were at 9695.00 with no circ or ozone.
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Yea, that price does not makes sense. I just shopped for one and was quoted $9800.
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That's a great price. I paid a little less than that for a R6L. But before they delivered it, I changed my mind and upgraded to a A7L. Bracket creep is so easy on these things....
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I just got an R5 for $5800. But that did include a $500 factory rebate. So I really paid $6300 which I think is a good price.
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That is a ridiculous price. I would not sell that spa anywhere close to that low. Hell, that's less than most dealers sell the R6 for. Does that include cover, delivery, chemicals, ozone, steps, cover lift, or any of that stuff? It's a great deal even if it didn't include any of that. As stated, most dealers should be at least in the mid $9k range for that spa.
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This price includes recirculation pump, entry ozone, matching acrylic jetpacks, and cover. I'm not too concerned about the chemicals, I'll make custom PVC steps to house chemicals inside, includes delivery (of which, i may pickup myself because I have a nice aluminum trailer to do so - which may drop the price more), and no cover lift. This is a cash price if this makes any difference. If so, does that change everyone's opinion?
Is there currently a factory rebate on the R7? If so, I didn't see one...
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Have them deliver it, unless it's a super easy delivery. And at that price cash or not go buy the thing before the owner realizes the salesman screwed up and fires him.
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Yep, that's a fantastic deal. Would laugh if someone offered that to me.
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Well it's in line with the A8 I bought last fall.....paid $9.4k delivered with steps, lift delivery etc.
Are you in Michigan?
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I was dialed in on a "R" series. Glad I spent a little more and got the A. The extra switches around the tub are really useful. Also, the touch screen is much more user friendly. If you got a dealer willing to price a tub like that, it might only be another $700 for A series.
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Well it's in line with the A8 I bought last fall.....paid $9.4k delivered with steps, lift delivery etc.
Are you in Michigan?
no, i am not
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I was dialed in on a "R" series. Glad I spent a little more and got the A. The extra switches around the tub are really useful. Also, the touch screen is much more user friendly. If you got a dealer willing to price a tub like that, it might only be another $700 for A series.
thanks for heads up - i didn't think the pricing would be that close, but we will see. what's the main advantage besides an additional jetpack?
edit: just read through this, not sure if it's worth it; i too like the simple controller, but we shall see...
https://www.whatsthebest-hottub.com/forum/index.php?topic=20357.0 (https://www.whatsthebest-hottub.com/forum/index.php?topic=20357.0)
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I just wet tested this R7 out today. My wife and I love it and are leaning towards it. However, we do like the dome foot jet on the R8 which we can get for $550 more. I’m not bent on the extra size or depth tho. Any thoughts?
Does anyone have a Bullfrog in platinum/Driftwood and want to post a photo?
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I just wet tested this R7 out today. My wife and I love it and are leaning towards it. However, we do like the dome foot jet on the R8 which we can get for $550 more. I’m not bent on the extra size or depth tho. Any thoughts?
Does anyone have a Bullfrog in platinum/Driftwood and want to post a photo?
We have Platinum Driftwood and it was our #1 choice. Google it and click the images tab and there will be lots of photos.
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Mine is an A7L in platinum/driftwood. The salesperson I had said that is the most popular color combination, and damn, it stood out on the storeroom floor. He said that was what he also has.
I'll post pics after I get it on Tuesday
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Here is one I found that is exactly like mine
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc224/epi-hunter/A7L%20tub_zpszt2q3p08.jpg) (http://s217.photobucket.com/user/epi-hunter/media/A7L%20tub_zpszt2q3p08.jpg.html)
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That's not platinum and driftwood....looks like titanium and mahogany
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I just wet tested this R7 out today. My wife and I love it and are leaning towards it. However, we do like the dome foot jet on the R8 which we can get for $550 more. I’m not bent on the extra size or depth tho. Any thoughts?
Does anyone have a Bullfrog in platinum/Driftwood and want to post a photo?
Only $550 more? Wow, most places charge an extra $1500 to $2k between the 7 and 8.
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You are right.... it is titanium. My bad.
Is there a rule here that photos can't be posted, even if hosted off-site? Every time I post one (all legitimately hot tub-related), they get deleted by moderation. Um, why?
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Sorry, it isn't the mods here; it's my hosting site
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We just put our order in for the R7 Driftwood exterior with Platinum shell including ozone, matching packs, cover, re-circulation pump, and full foam within delivery in place for just under $7,500 plus tax!
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Un-real! That's a 1000 less then the Costco promo, even more so considering it has the circ pump.
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Wow. That is unbelievable. I wouldn't sell an R6 for that price. Like Jacuzzi Jim said. Better than costco pricing.
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I just can't understand how people are getting these prices. I wouldn't be able to stay in business selling and R7 for that price. Like utahtubbing says, I wouldn't sell the R6 for that price.
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Crazy pricing. Where in the country are you located? I actually had a guy come into my store stay saying they got a quote on a A8 double lounge for $9800. Thought that was pretty crazy as well. Sounds like Bullfrog needs to teach there dealers that they are in business to make a living not give stuff away lol
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Crazy pricing. Where in the country are you located? I actually had a guy come into my store stay saying they got a quote on a A8 double lounge for $9800. Thought that was pretty crazy as well. Sounds like Bullfrog needs to teach there dealers that they are in business to make a living not give stuff away lol
I'm located in Northeast Ohio. Maybe prices have dropped? I'd like to hear what a dealer actually pays for these things!
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Crazy pricing. Where in the country are you located? I actually had a guy come into my store stay saying they got a quote on a A8 double lounge for $9800. Thought that was pretty crazy as well. Sounds like Bullfrog needs to teach there dealers that they are in business to make a living not give stuff away lol
I'm located in Northeast Ohio. Maybe prices have dropped? I'd like to hear what a dealer actually pays for these things!
In addition to the cost of the spa is sales commission, shipping, delivery crew, truck with gas and insurance, receiving, storing, having service techs on stand-by to perform warranty work, keeping delivery crew's employed even when there aren't deliveries,etc. All of which can add quite a bit to the cost of the unit. With all of that in mind, the OP's dealer maybe made $900 or so. Selling at that price consistently would make it virtually impossible to stay in business, unless spas are just a small part of the operation. I'm not exaggerating when I say that those numbers are absurd.
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Crazy pricing. Where in the country are you located? I actually had a guy come into my store stay saying they got a quote on a A8 double lounge for $9800. Thought that was pretty crazy as well. Sounds like Bullfrog needs to teach there dealers that they are in business to make a living not give stuff away lol
I'm located in Northeast Ohio. Maybe prices have dropped? I'd like to hear what a dealer actually pays for these things!
In addition to the cost of the spa is sales commission, shipping, delivery crew, truck with gas and insurance, receiving, storing, having service techs on stand-by to perform warranty work, keeping delivery crew's employed even when there aren't deliveries,etc. All of which can add quite a bit to the cost of the unit. With all of that in mind, the OP's dealer maybe made $900 or so. Selling at that price consistently would make it virtually impossible to stay in business, unless spas are just a small part of the operation. I'm not exaggerating when I say that those numbers are absurd.
Those numbers are only absurd if 1.) you assume all dealers are buying the spa from Bullfrog at the same cost, 2.) you assume all dealers have similar overall sales unit volume and 3.) you assume all dealers have similar overhead structures. Anyone that spends any time on this board can quickly identify that none of these assumptions hold true with spa dealers. Vast differences exist in these areas of cost which result in tremendously different purchase prices for consumers on apples-to-apples spa purchases.
It's pretty naïve to think a dealer selling an A8 for $10k, delivered, is losing money. These types of numbers show up on this forum pretty regularly. Is it possible they're mostly being sold through a single nation-wide dealer network? Sure. Is it possible they pay 20+% less for the tub from Bullfrog than you do? I couldn't say. Is it possible they sell thousands more spa's each year than anyone else and as such can afford a lower per-spa margin? Sure...
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All dealers pay the same price per unit. The variable is shipping.
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All dealers pay the same price per unit. The variable is shipping.
Shipping and overheads.
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I don't care what anyone here says that is not a Bullfrog retailer! Overhead, shipping, guy to wipe the spa out, pump gas in the truck. If I sold that spa right now for that price, I would probably be fired. And I have been here for 18 years.
The price he got is freaking ridiculous!
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All dealers pay the same price per unit. The variable is shipping.
You think Watson’s pays the same as the majority of other dealers. It’s no secret that many manufacturers offer different tier prices to dealers depending on volume.
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All dealers pay the same price per unit. The variable is shipping.
You think Watson’s pays the same as the majority of other dealers. It’s no secret that many manufacturers offer different tier prices to dealers depending on volume.
As far as I'm aware, Bullfrog does not do this. I could be wrong but my rep told me otherwise.