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Brand Specific Forums => Bullfrog Spas => Topic started by: Afarmwife on August 25, 2017, 09:18:09 pm
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My husband put a deposit down on a Bullfrog X7 today. I feel that it was a high pressure sale and he's desperate for pain relief for arthritis. He was quoted 10,000 CDN for the spa, lid and lift kit, chemicals and stairs. He hasn't done much research but I've been doing some comparison and have notice that the Bullfrog seems to be an "entry level" spa. I worry that he has over paid for something in his excitement and lack of research. The dealer he put the deposit down with also sells Marquis brand. I have taken a look at them and I do like the Promise which was quoted at $9500 CDN. Can someone steer me in the right direction regarding these two spas so I can check them out before my husband makes a huge mistake?
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Bullfrog is definitely not an entry level brand....but...the X series is their low end tub. I am about to get an A8 which is their top of the line tub for 10k USD but seems that it goes for much more in some regions.
I think you can get an X7 below $7k USD based on what Ive seen here
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That seems good Afarmwife. X Series is certainly a great hot tub, not the luxury models, but quality-wise, fantastic. I'd recommend getting the circ pump.
Price is fair (good dealer I hope?) The Canadian dollar is pretty weak against the US. That price puts it close to what I am. I normally sell the X7 for $7500-$8500 (depending what they choose as options.)
Thisismyname has a great price in the A8, but the dealer they are dealing with don't mind losing money, so unless you got one of those around, $10k ($12k CAN) is completely absurd for an A8.
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That seems good Afarmwife. X Series is certainly a great hot tub, not the luxury models, but quality-wise, fantastic. I'd recommend getting the circ pump.
Price is fair (good dealer I hope?) The Canadian dollar is pretty weak against the US. That price puts it close to what I am. I normally sell the X7 for $7500-$8500 (depending what they choose as options.)
Thisismyname has a great price in the A8, but the dealer they are dealing with don't mind losing money, so unless you got one of those around, $10k ($12k CAN) is completely absurd for an A8.
now that doonut has confirmed the price is legit, you should still go to the store and review both brands. The dealer won't really care which brand you get and you'll have peace of mind that you've done your due diligence.
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My husband put a deposit down on a Bullfrog X7 today. I feel that it was a high pressure sale and he's desperate for pain relief for arthritis. He was quoted 10,000 CDN for the spa, lid and lift kit, chemicals and stairs. He hasn't done much research but I've been doing some comparison and have notice that the Bullfrog seems to be an "entry level" spa. I worry that he has over paid for something in his excitement and lack of research. The dealer he put the deposit down with also sells Marquis brand. I have taken a look at them and I do like the Promise which was quoted at $9500 CDN. Can someone steer me in the right direction regarding these two spas so I can check them out before my husband makes a huge mistake?
I just put an order in for the X8 last week for $6800 USD FYI. Same stuff included that is mentioned.
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My husband put a deposit down on a Bullfrog X7 today. I feel that it was a high pressure sale and he's desperate for pain relief for arthritis. He was quoted 10,000 CDN for the spa, lid and lift kit, chemicals and stairs. He hasn't done much research but I've been doing some comparison and have notice that the Bullfrog seems to be an "entry level" spa. I worry that he has over paid for something in his excitement and lack of research. The dealer he put the deposit down with also sells Marquis brand. I have taken a look at them and I do like the Promise which was quoted at $9500 CDN. Can someone steer me in the right direction regarding these two spas so I can check them out before my husband makes a huge mistake?
I think you could of done better.
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That's a pretty good price on the Marquis Promise. The Marquis you're looking at is in the top series of Marquis with longest warranty, best construction, etc, whereas the X series is more of the entry level Bullfrog.
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There is a lot more value to me in a signature marquis then a x series bullfrog when you consider the Marquis is $500 less. I would try them both before making a decision
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Thoughts are. A bullfrog X series is built on the same line as the A and R series. Same shell and backing with a polymer frame full foam spa. Same Balboa control Pack and a different controller and one less filter with a 3 year warranty and no jet packs and bells+ whistles. Yet is a lesser price then a R or A series.
How much different is the Promise signature series from the next step up in the marquis line? It's probably built on the same line, probably uses the same equipment as the upper end version, if Balboa probably the same as the X series or R series controller. Full foam or not I have no idea.
Long story short, a inexpensive or lower end spa from a quality mnfg doesn't always mean a cheaper construction wise spa or a really lesser end spa. It probably has less bells and whistles with less or more add on options and a lower price. Now don't take that verbatim or twist it like the media does these days with some people. But you industry people should understand what I am saying..
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There is a lot more value to me in a signature marquis then a x series bullfrog when you consider the Marquis is $500 less. I would try them both before making a decision
Agree! I'm an owner and currently own a Marquis Spirit. Before that I owned a Bullfrog R6L. Both are reputable brands. The Bullfrog X series is Bullfrogs entry level. Then their R series and top of the line A series. The R and A series have jetpaks and better warranty than X series. The Marquis Promise is part of Marquis top line, Signature series. IMO you would be getting a better spa and warranty with the Marquis Promise over the BF X. If you haven't already, ask them to open the front panel on both spas so you can see the inside equipment bay. Have them show you the operation of both control panels. What options come standard between the two? Also very important to wet test before purchasing.
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There's a lot of people who think the Marquis signature series is better than the top of the line BF A series. So comparing marquis it to the BF value line is way off.
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I wet tested a marquis Epic and didn't like anything about it....and we loved the bullfrog during 3 wet tests!
So no matter what other day and technical specs say you need to test them out to know what you want
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I wet tested a marquis Epic and didn't like anything about it....and we loved the bullfrog during 3 wet tests!
So no matter what other day and technical specs say you need to test them out to know what you want
That's why we preach what we preach here instead of a sales pitch. Most of us anyway.
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I wet tested a marquis Epic and didn't like anything about it....and we loved the bullfrog during 3 wet tests!
So no matter what other day and technical specs say you need to test them out to know what you want
That's why we preach what we preach here instead of a sales pitch. Most of us anyway.
Exactly! Everyone has their own opinion and only you can say what's best for you. When you wet test, no matter the brand of spa, make sure you have the sales person show you how to operate the spa so you won't get confused.
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Thoughts are. A bullfrog X series is built on the same line as the A and R series. Same shell and backing with a polymer frame full foam spa. Same Balboa control Pack and a different controller and one less filter with a 3 year warranty and no jet packs and bells+ whistles. Yet is a lesser price then a R or A series.
How much different is the Promise signature series from the next step up in the marquis line? It's probably built on the same line, probably uses the same equipment as the upper end version, if Balboa probably the same as the X series or R series controller. Full foam or not I have no idea.
Long story short, a inexpensive or lower end spa from a quality mnfg doesn't always mean a cheaper construction wise spa or a really lesser end spa. It probably has less bells and whistles with less or more add on options and a lower price. Now don't take that verbatim or twist it like the media does these days with some people. But you industry people should understand what I am saying..
This...'under the hood' that X Series will be built as good or better than the most expensive Marquis Spa on the market (not a knock against them, just simply truth)
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This...'under the hood' that X Series will be built as good or better than the most expensive Marquis Spa on the market (not a knock against them, just simply truth)
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Just simply...your opinion which is biased as you sell them.
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That's a pretty good price on the Marquis Promise. The Marquis you're looking at is in the top series of Marquis with longest warranty, best construction, etc, whereas the X series is more of the entry level Bullfrog.
For the record I am not dissing Marguis spas. They build a really nice spa, and are a solid brand plus great company. What I am getting at and a question for you because I really do not know. How differently built is the E series from the signature series? I assume they are built on the same line, they have the same for the most part waterway jets, same heater. They are probably full foam and balboa equipment and lesser topside, less the high flow jets, guessing (MP40s)? Close to if not the same filtration, pretty close to the same pumps.
In short to say the price point lines with any high end MNFG is less quality or cheaply built compared to the upper end spas in many ways would be wrong. They usually just have less of everything the top ends have. Less warranty, less jets, less bells and whistles. But still in my opinion a very, very well "built" spa except a high price tag.
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That's a pretty good price on the Marquis Promise. The Marquis you're looking at is in the top series of Marquis with longest warranty, best construction, etc, whereas the X series is more of the entry level Bullfrog.
For the record I am not dissing Marguis spas. They build a really nice spa, and are a solid brand plus great company. What I am getting at and a question for you because I really do not know. How differently built is the E series from the signature series? I assume they are built on the same line, they have the same for the most part waterway jets, same heater. They are probably full foam and balboa equipment and lesser topside, less the high flow jets, guessing (MP40s)? Close to if not the same filtration, pretty close to the same pumps.
In short to say the price point lines with any high end MNFG is less quality or cheaply built compared to the upper end spas in many ways would be wrong. They usually just have less of everything the top ends have. Less warranty, less jets, less bells and whistles. But still in my opinion a very, very well "built" spa except a high price tag.
Marquis build is actually quite different between series. From perimeter insulation on celebrity, full foam as a option on e and Vector series to full foam on signature. Topside on signature is very user friendly where a little trickier to operate on celebrity. Marquis tubs are actually quite different by series. Pumps are the same in Vector, e series and signature. I don't doubt the x series is a good tub but I think fir $500 less a signature series is a better tub. Now that's assuming a wet test on both confirms that they like each tub. This is no knock on bullfrog. If it was the other way around and a a series bullfrog was $500 less then a celebrity series Marquis I would be saying the same thing
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I checked out the bull frogs before purchasing a marquis vector 94L. From my view the marquis was a better built tub with very similar quality components but at a better price. My local Bullfrog dealer prices are high thou.