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Congrats on your new A6L Select! Okay, so about your questions: 1) Yeah, seems like the jets are tied to aeration, no separate option. Weird, right? 2) Can't find a way to change the auto-shut-off time? That's frustrating. 3) Good call on cycling the pumps, sounds like it helped a bit. 4) Those rough cuts on the JetPak covers sound annoying. Maybe reach out to customer service? 5) Air bleed valves sound handy, but figuring out which connects where can be a bit of a puzzle. Keep tinkering, you'll get it sorted!
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« Last post by Malcom Turn on March 04, 2024, 04:43:10 am »
It's tough dealing with allergies, especially when they mess with your relaxation time. To test out if chlorine is a better fit for your wife's skin, you'll want to mimic your hot tub's chlorine levels in a regular bathtub. Lower your tap water's Total Alkalinity (TA) and adjust the pH to match your hot tub's levels.
Then, add 7.5% chlorine to the bathwater. As for antihistamines, they can help manage allergic reactions, but it's best to consult a healthcare professional for the right dosage and timing. Wishing you both happy and rash-free soaking!
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Have you been using non chlorine spa shock regularly? Sound like she has folliculitis (hot tub rash) due to improper chemical regime.
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« Last post by Davekro on March 01, 2024, 08:47:36 pm »
@cuthbertdavies , I have a 310 gallon regular hot tub. I use 20% (liquid) Klean-Strip Muriatic Acid from Home Depot $9.98 to lower my PH. With my TA at between 30-40 ppm, it takes VERY little 20% MA to lower my PH. For my tub, 1 TEAspoon of 20% MA lowerd my PH from 7.8 to ≈ 7.5. Most Muriatic acid sold is 31.45% Mur. Acid (much stonger) but about the same cost as the 20% MA version. If you want to try MA. take a bucket, scoop it 3/4 full from your tub, add ONLY 1/2 TEAspoon of 20% MA, or maybe 1/3 TEAspoon if you buy the more common full strength MA. Much better to micro dose raise PH slightly and repeat if needed. With MA, it is way to easy to add to much and drop your PH well below 6.8! Good Luck
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« Last post by Davekro on March 01, 2024, 08:14:38 pm »
Before we go through the hassle of draining the tub and restarting with Chlorine as the sanitizer instead of Bromine, to see if Chlorine causes my wife no skin rashes, we want to fill the bathtub with hot water and simulate the chlorine water conditions that would be the same as if we convert the hot tub to chlorine.
So here are our questions:
1) Is it common for some people to have a Bromine allergy, but NOT a Chlorine allergy? What are the odds of this?
2)How do I create a bathtub chlorine environment to match a hot tub's?
a) Would I need to reduce our tap water's 370 ppm TA (Total Alkalinity) down below 70 ppm (our hot tub's current TA is 40 ppm), then get the PH adjusted between 7.4- 7.7 before adding Chlorine to make the test valid as close as possible to apples to apples to the actual hot tub?
b) How much of 7.5% chlorine to initially add to say ≈ 30 gallons of bath water to get an in-range chlorine level?
c) I only have a Taylor K-2106 'Bromine' test kit. Is there a workaround test that will tell me the effective Chlorine level I need to measure? If I can't do that with my K-2106 kit/reagents, what reagents would I need to buy to perform a proper Chlorine level test for our experimental bathtub test?
3) Are people with similar Bromine allergy/sensitivity able to completely avoid allergic reactions of rashes and bumps by simply taking Antihistamines like: 25mg Benadryl or 10mg Cetirizine HCI (Zyrtec or Amazon Generic), 10 mg Loratadine (Claritin or Amazon Generic)? If so, what doses and how long before and after?
The Background:
We purchased a brand-new Bullfrog A6L (310 gals) Hot tub with the only time it was filled was at OEM water test at the time of manufacture, three months prior. The tub was purged, water balanced, Bromine Reserve added, Chlorine Shock done, PH & Bromine levels have been kept in range. I swap in a dry, cleaned filter once per week. The Bromine (always between 3-6 ppm) causes my wife extreme rash and bumps, but I have no skin reactions at all. Our initial soak (103º F, PH 7.6, Ttl Bromine 6ppm, TA 30 ppm) caused her an extreme allergic reaction where she had a rash and bumps on her trunk, arms and legs. I am using a Taylor K-2106 'Complete (FAS-DPD bromine)' test kit.
She said the pain and itching for a week was worse than her prior bout of Covid. It kept her awake all night. A week and a half later we let the Total Bromine drop to zero, PH ≈7.6, TA 40ppm. The water temp was only at 93º F. The allergic reaction was nowhere near as strong, but she still felt it coming on 1-2 hours after her soak. She took one Zyrtec 10mg Cetirizine HCI Antihistamine at that time and for two days following and the rash dissipated. I have had no allergic reactions at all.
Installation, thorough Purge and refill process:
Three weeks ago, after the brand new hot tub was installed, I filled it (310 gals) and did a purge using AHH!some. Ran jets on high w/ air for 30 mins. wiped away the green sludge from the shell above the water line and scooped a few small patches from the water. I then removed the four Bullfrog JetPaks and cleaned the green from them that was at the waterline. As an extra precaution, I then ran the jets on high for a second 30 minute period. There was only a small amount of green residue to wipe away this time. I then sprayed ≈ 50 gallons of water into the tub via each jet to rinse any lingering residue of green biofilm and AHH!some purge. I siphoned out then used a shop vac to completely drain the foot well as well as vacuuming each JetPak supply pipe and all the lowest fixed jets. I am pretty sure we can rule out ‘hot tub folliculitis’.
Thank you, Dave
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« Last post by icenogle on March 01, 2024, 04:35:21 pm »
That is a great question. I have been removing my panels lately chasing down a leak. Found it and put it all back together after I replaced my leaking pump. Too many screws. Turns out I found the large leak now I have to go in and find the small/slower leak. Should not have drained during the cold snap. A couple things froze. Should have known better. Will go with installing less screws.
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« Last post by cranbiz on February 23, 2024, 10:39:37 am »
I'm sure it really doesn't need all 10+ screws to hold on the panel. I'll bet you can use 1/2 to 1/4 of the screws to hold the panel in place.
One screw in each of the corners and one top and bottom in the center should hold it secure and make it easier to remove.
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« Last post by shaywood on February 20, 2024, 07:50:02 pm »
Hello, I frequently remove the side panel of my hot tub to service the pump area. On a 2023 Calspa this requires removing 10+ screws. Curious if anyone recommends some type of quick connect screw or other idea to save time. Perhaps a push release screw?
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I have a small inflatable hot tub with a capacity of 177 gallons. This is my first time owning a hot tub, and I've been attempting for days to lower the pH level, but it remains stubbornly high. Every time I test it with a test strip, it reads higher than 9. Additionally, my Total Alkalinity (TA) is struggling to increase and maintain a stable level. Yesterday, I managed to raise it to 80, but now it has dropped back down to 40. I'm using chlorine to sanitize the water.
Despite adding significant amounts of pH decreaser, the pH level doesn't seem to change. After a day, all the chemicals settle at the bottom of the tub. I've tried using the skimmer to agitate the water and aid in mixing the chemicals to lower the pH, but to no avail. I'm replacing the filter every day, and it's becoming saturated with chemicals.
This situation has become a nightmare. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss for what to do next.
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