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Title: Chemicals
Post by: TubbinSoon, now we be tubbin on November 09, 2004, 02:01:49 pm
Have read the Northman version and the Vermont style and read the threads here and there. Am thinking breathing issues with Bromine, NOT GOOD. IONS and other more expensive treatments are exactly that; more expensive.

Itching????
Dry skin???

I seemed to notice more of chlorine odor when testing a Jacuzzi that had something bobbing around. Perhaps it should not have been in there with me? Or me with it? What was odd was how I could smell the chlorine on my finger tips or fingernails in the middle of the night. I have no idea was this Bromine or Chlorine.

Right now simple would be easier and that appears to be dichlor. The mystery tub has Ozone. I would like to have this work so I didn't always smell chlorine.

regards
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: CalicoskiesNC on November 09, 2004, 02:22:12 pm
I cant speak for other tubs, only my own.  I never have a chlorine odor unless I've just dosed it or the morning after a shock.  We dose at night, use the next night and I dont ever smell chlorine. I smell the ozone when we lift the cover.
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: TubbinSoon, now we be tubbin on November 09, 2004, 02:35:14 pm
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I cant speak for other tubs, only my own.  I never have a chlorine odor unless I've just dosed it or the morning after a shock.  We dose at night, use the next night and I dont ever smell chlorine. I smell the ozone when we lift the cover.



And this is dichlor right?
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: wmccall on November 09, 2004, 02:51:25 pm
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I cant speak for other tubs, only my own.  I never have a chlorine odor unless I've just dosed it or the morning after a shock.  We dose at night, use the next night and I dont ever smell chlorine. I smell the ozone when we lift the cover.



As a dichlor user, this pretty much is my experience. Having grown up with a school that had an indoor swimming pool I got use to the smell of chlorine.  I add after we get out and if I open the cover 10 minutes later I get what I think is a nice chlorine smell (barely noticable) If I do a shock level or just add too much the smell becomes obnoxious lifting the cover shortly after, or the next morning as Calico says, but usually by next usage I don't notice any smell on my skin or when applicable suit.  Perhaps the dealers at the wet test throw in just a little right before your wet test?
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: Lori on November 09, 2004, 03:13:11 pm
Dichlor is chlorine.

I have the same experience with mine as wmmcall and UTS.

Dose when I get out. (I also have ozone.)  There is no smell the next day when I want to use the tub.  The little it does smell when I shock is not as bad as I have witnessed in public pools or spas.
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: TubbinSoon, now we be tubbin on November 09, 2004, 04:13:57 pm
Oh, I remember at the Master Spa wet test, just as I was getting ready to get in this guy gets a small bottle with a dropper and drops some liquid in.

Was this the unknown visitor anti-contamination preventative?

It did cover me with a lingering chlorine smell.
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: Winnsome on November 09, 2004, 04:28:08 pm
We use a chemical treatment called "Pristineblue".  Any body used this process?  I believe its similiar to Nature2 or similiar type.  Use's copper ions in the water.  So far, after two months of use, No smells, ph, Alk, etc are perfect and the water is clear as it should be.  But what do the experts think?
www.Pristineblue.com
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: tony on November 09, 2004, 05:30:09 pm
My experience is the same as the dichlor users above...no chlorine smell, ever.
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: ttodd1 on November 09, 2004, 07:25:48 pm
Same here as above.
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: TubbinSoon, now we be tubbin on November 09, 2004, 08:26:54 pm
Incredible, a consensus on this board?
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: Steve on November 09, 2004, 08:54:10 pm
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Incredible, a consensus on this board?


I Like Bromine! ;D Sorry Tubbin...I know it's unlike me to disagree but... ;) ! I believe any proper sanitizing system will work well if the appropriate levels are maintained regularly. Heck, it's bascially half chlorine anyway right?

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We use a chemical treatment called "Pristineblue".  Any body used this process?  I believe its similiar to Nature2 or similiar type.  Use's copper ions in the water.  So far, after two months of use, No smells, ph, Alk, etc are perfect and the water is clear as it should be.  But what do the experts think?
www.Pristineblue.com


So how do you test for safe sanitizer levels? Are you also using small quantities of chlorine?

Some here have seen me type this before  but beware of relying on the clarity of water. Battery acid is clear also. Many assume their water is fine if it's clear. Your balancing can be completely out of whack and still maintain clarity to some degree.

Steve
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: salesdvl on November 09, 2004, 09:06:49 pm
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Incredible, a consensus on this board?



OK, what do I have to do to break this up.??  You know we aren't supposed to agree.   ;)
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: Winnsome on November 09, 2004, 09:40:57 pm
We test the PristineBlue for the "shocking" ability with a copper ion test.  Then you follow the Pristineblue chart for how much to add once every two weeks.  You can still use a little Chlorine if needed.  But so far, not needed.  The sanitizer levels are checked with this copper ion test.  But being new to the spa world, this is why I am asking questions.  This site has been very helpful to us.  Have learned a lot.
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: TubbinSoon, now we be tubbin on November 10, 2004, 06:33:17 am
I have not the priviledge of having a tub to test....yet. It is just outside my reach but in town. I am planning on getting the Taylor test set but there seems to be more than one kit. The approximately $40-50 kit I think is what would do the job. It has something for ph, calcium, chlorine, bromine, and TDS?

Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: Lori on November 10, 2004, 06:37:32 am
Tubbinsoon,

The Taylor test for Chlorine/Bromine (whichever you use), calcium, ph, alkalinity.  There is also a test for CYA (I think, I've never used it).

TDS I check with strips, which are just a guide.  If I want proper TDS levels, I take it to a professional to test!
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: ttodd1 on November 10, 2004, 08:43:46 am
There is also that Walmart kit that is $15 and has the same tests, Chlorine, ph, alk, cya, calcium.  It has worked great for me.
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: empolgation on November 10, 2004, 11:46:40 am
I'm with Steve - any properly mantained sanitizing system works and... I like Bromine. Ever since having to take care of a pool since i was 12 I've used chlorine in pools and spas. My most recent spa purchase has the built in Frog bromine system so I gave it a try.

I've been very happy with bromine and have no issues and no smell. I find it a lot simpler and easier than having to add a bit of chlorine after every time I use the tub. For what it's worth I also have on hand dichlor for when I need to bring sanitation level up quickly as I've found that it will disipate quicker than a large dose of bromine.
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: HotTubMan on November 10, 2004, 12:32:45 pm
I am with empologation and Steve, bromine system is great. If you could use it with mineral systems, I think more Americans would be using bromine.

Unfortunately for Steve and I, mineral systems are not an option. The Canuck government will not give the stamp of approval. But do we need it?

People used tubs for years without ozone. It became an option and then a staple. It seems that mineral systems are following the same path.
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: salesdvl on November 10, 2004, 04:48:26 pm
Hey, I'll trade ya some mineral packs for some Rx.  I'll meet ya at the border.  ;)

When you see me the code phrase will be " Is that a FROG in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?"
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: windsurfdog on November 11, 2004, 08:12:05 am
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" Is that a FROG in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?"

gawd......I hope it's a frog with all that jumpin' around......
;D
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: wmccall on November 11, 2004, 10:05:21 am
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There is also that Walmart kit that is $15 and has the same tests, Chlorine, ph, alk, cya, calcium.  It has worked great for me.



This is the $15 kit that is available at my Walmart

http://www.hthpools.com/eprise/main/WaterChemicals/HTH_Classic/Content/productguide/ACCES/Product5WYTSTKT.htm
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: salesdvl on November 11, 2004, 05:12:02 pm
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gawd......I hope it's a frog with all that jumpin' around......
 ;D


You know how I hate to brag.  :o
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: TubbinSoon, now we be tubbin on November 11, 2004, 06:54:07 pm
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This is the $15 kit that is available at my Walmart

http://www.hthpools.com/eprise/main/WaterChemicals/HTH_Classic/Content/productguide/ACCES/Product5WYTSTKT.htm


None listed in on line Wally World and I think all of the stores did a clearance last month. Some might have some left overs. Shucks. I can do $15 all day!

Somebody snag me one!
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: Brewman on November 11, 2004, 06:59:22 pm
Our local WalMart still has these, I picked one up the other day.  I did have to go hunting a bit.  They have a pretty small selection of spa chemicals, and the kits.
Brewman
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: wmccall on November 11, 2004, 07:17:55 pm
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None listed in on line Wally World and I think all of the stores did a clearance last month. Some might have some left overs. Shucks. I can do $15 all day!

Somebody snag me one!


They are considered a seasonal item, look for them again in January.
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: windsurfdog on November 12, 2004, 10:05:40 am
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You know how I hate to brag.  :o

Since when?? :D
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: ttodd1 on November 12, 2004, 11:42:28 am
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None listed in on line Wally World and I think all of the stores did a clearance last month. Some might have some left overs. Shucks. I can do $15 all day!

Somebody snag me one!


They don't show them on-line.  The one in my area carries the AquaChem brand.  I did have to go to a Walmart on the other side of town (the one close to me did not have any more on the shelves).  You may have dig to find one.
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: david on November 22, 2004, 07:19:10 pm
Just got my hot tub but no electric yet
Came with leisure chemicals.  Counted 8 different ones.  
Can everyone detail there regiment including brand of chemicals-chlorine, when you treat both after use and inbetween, and where is the best place to get the chemicals, i.e. spa store, WalMart, internet
Thanks.
Title: Re: Chemicals
Post by: Chas on November 22, 2004, 07:49:02 pm
I like Dichlor. I dose it after each use, shock once per month or after a crowd gets out.

No smell, except right after a shock.