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General => General info Somewhat hot tub related => Topic started by: autoplay on July 25, 2006, 09:29:47 pm
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I believe I'm the first person in a soon list of people to be banned from his new board.
To make a long story short......I replied to a few of his questions in regard to character traits etc,his and mine.
I was truthful with my thoughts and feelings,from me,and of him.
I replied to a post from his wife,Sandy. She askd why my wife felt"badly" of Jim,which I responded that she doesn't think of him badly etc etc. I told her my wife thoughts regarding Jim.
I said nothing that constituted a ban,unless you count the FACT that I stated the truth/my opinion/s.
I have come to the conclusion....that Jim throughout his life,doesn't know how to deal with people. He has once again confirmed my beliefs of his character,and once again,in his actions LOL.
I did ask him this(among other things) How do your peers(spa industry professionals) feel about you? Why do they feel this way Jim?
At least he's pre dick able lol.
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So it was you- I thougt it might be.
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Figured so too! Were you REALLY expecting him to ever change? I'm there on the new forum too "playing nice" so we'll see how long I last... ;)
Steve
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I love to see people out making new friends like this! My husband does it all the time, and I'm so PROUD! ;D ;)
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I hope for folks that aren't famillair with him, this will be a great ilustration for them on just how delusional he is. You refereed to his tubs as Caven, and he went nuts. Besides his pontifications about what a victim he is, the target of conspiracies, and how wrong it was of you to say that, he made damn sure to get the "crapdela" remark in there. ::)
My favorite still is the whole ETL listing. He promised me I'd eat my words and that in a few weeks it will all be resolved. That was several months ago. He refuses to address it, and on his site, he shows you a picture of a box that has an ETL symbol on it, (to purposely give one the impression he has it).
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Who is this character, Jim? Periodically, I read things about him here...what's the story?
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Who is this character, Jim? Periodically, I read things about him here...what's the story?
He is a spa salesman who runs a mom-and-pop spa business. He takes spas from a manufacturer in California and adds home-made fans and controls, and then sells them under his brand.
If you politely ask him the time of day, he will tell you that you are stupid for not knowing, tell you a quick story about how he used to work at the world's largest watch factory, and that if you were fooled into buying your watch from HotSpring then you deserve not to know the time.
How did I do? ;)
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How did I do? ;)
Phoenix spas are not made in Phoenix? Then this is a total fraud.
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What is the link to "this new board"?
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Phoenix spas are not made in Phoenix? Then this is a total fraud.
Then you will no doubt be appalled to learn that HotSpring Spas are not made in Arkansas, good sir.
Terminator
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These are just a few of the great quotes that idoit has made....
"There is nothing mental about teaching the truth on a subject that I know better than anyone..."
"I treat eveyone with love"
"There is no other source for solid correct and scientifically factual information, than our site "
"I know both sides of the story, because I come from engineering and I have taken many hundreds of hours of sales seminars,"
"By the way I have noticed that your message forum has been reduced to the rantings of a womanizer, gun toting, alcholic maniac. Those weapons he is putting on the forum are designed for one thing..to kill people. I have studied gun smithing and I know what a sporting rifle is and what an assault rifle or hand gun is. I guess anyone who pays for advertising is allowed to post their insanity"
"We have no competition in the high quality arena. Let me repeat that… We have no competition in the high quality and value arena."
and a quote from his wife when she asked me to point out just one lie he has made.
Our rebranded spa models are covered by the Phoenix ETL. They will be listed individually soon. You can contact Norville at the Phoenix factory for confirmation.
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These are just a few of the great quotes that idoit has made....
We have no competition in the high quality arena. Let me repeat that… We have no competition in the high quality and value arena.
lol....is that because this is an area of which they do not compete in...lol..an area in which they have never been accused of being in...."high quality and value"....something they are not mistaken for........ ;)
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then there are the websites dedicated to exposing him.
the BBB issues,
the lawsuits
he has been banned from every major spa forum
the rantings he has made over the years.
It's just overwhelming.
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This is one of my favs from Puddin Head...
"I treat people exactly the way they should be treated with the highest degree of love.
Sometimes the best way to show love is to scorn some a$$hole's ego maniac crap, like your's for example."
Feel the love people....feel the love. ;D
Steve
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SHEESH Talk about a grudge! all I did was say hi and wish everyone a good day and a beautiful tomorrow and he banned me! HEHEHEHE ;D
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He is a spa salesman who runs a mom-and-pop spa business. He takes spas from a manufacturer in California and adds home-made fans and controls, and then sells them under his brand.
If you politely ask him the time of day, he will tell you that you are stupid for not knowing, tell you a quick story about how he used to work at the world's largest watch factory, and that if you were fooled into buying your watch from HotSpring then you deserve not to know the time.
How did I do? ;)
Pretty close to reality. Except that he wouldn't just claim to have worked at the watch factory, he'd go on and on about being in the engineering department, and working on a secret watch for CIA operatives, or some other such drivel, despite the fact that he has no formal education in the engineering field.
I believe he was on the committee that invented the atomic clock- the one that the whole galaxy uses to set their clocks to. It was his idea, in fact, and he's put many of the same concepts into his spas.
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then there are the websites dedicated to exposing him.
the BBB issues,
the lawsuits
he has been banned from every major spa forum
the rantings he has made over the years.
It's just overwhelming.
Lest we not forget the name change, and some rather unflattering behavior in his past.
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SHEESH Talk about a grudge! all I did was say hi and wish everyone a good day and a beautiful tomorrow and he banned me! HEHEHEHE ;D
That's gotta be some sort of record! ;D I'm shocked he's allowed my posts and even MORE shocked that posts don't have to go through him prior to showing up on the forum!
Steve
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Whooops...spoke too soon. I just got banned also and wasn't rude like you were with your "have a nice day" stuff! LMAO! :D
Steve
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Yea it stinks now I have to resort to lurking his site by wirless internet.LOL
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HE has set up his own topic of Our first Banned member
Serjicalstrike saying personal attacks will not be permitted
but we know that from his setup topic of Beachcomer he was out for steve from the get go
Who is next for him to defame publicly on his board???
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He just don't like me much which makes me believe I'm on the right track! ;)
Steve
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One thing that is missing in this thread is Jim's abhorant abuse of religion in an attempt to verify his positon through assocation. He attempts to use religion to manipulate people. If he had ANY intelligence, he would realize how transparent this flawed approadh really is. In the next breath he will cuss and scorn the exact same people he was tryign to cajole in the prior post. He has delusions of granduer . Today he actually claimed in a post today to have single handily "solved Coleman's plumbing problems when they hired him under contract..." If he EVER worked for Coleman it couldn't have been for long and he was probably more like a dock loader than an engineer. He is hatefull, angry and probably clinically delusional. I've bantered with him numerous times on "the other board" (not his own) where he can't simply "wipe my posts out of existance". I say banter but the reality is that he doesn't debate well at all so usually it's simply me pointing out all the holes in his arguements and then him posting something spitefull. If you don't know him, you are lucky. He has been sued for not paying bills, he has been taken to court due to his anger (I think he may even have been convicted of assult on someone). He is a real peice of work. Oh yea, I forgot the golden rule... If you can't say anything good about a person, don't say anything at all..." I take back all that stuff I previously wrote in this post and realize that I need to go back and delete all this stuff. Now, where is that backspace key.............................................Oops, that was the ENTER key, DRAT!
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One thing that is missing in this thread is Jim's abhorant abuse of religion
Biy that is right on. In his email messages directly to me, he tried to attack me on religious values. The man has never met me and I dare say, nobody outside my own family has any ideas of my religous values. I'll just say, I'm not an evangelist.
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another gem:
"I talked with the owner of the What's the best, and he doesn't know the first thing about spas until I taught him."
Really?
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another gem:
"I talked with the owner of the What's the best, and he doesn't know the first thing about spas until I taught him."
Really?
Yeah, it taught the owner of this site that banning some people is a good idea.
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Is this Jim Arjuna from Pool and Spa Web Board?
And is Steve on this forum, the guy that Jim supposedly had fired from two Hot tub dealerships?
Just trying to put 2 and 2 together. I have no comments or thoughts about their argument if these are the people I am talking about.
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cooltoy, you are right on all accounts. I just read some of the latest rantings over there and something has really set the Flim Flam Man off on a tirade. He is a foul-mouthed, loathsome, degenerate, con-man. Never for a second allow yourself to believe otherwise.
Terminator
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I make it a rule not to partake in the politics. Especially since I do not know (nor do I want to know) the details of what appears to be a long standing, heated battle.
I have seen this mentioned on several boards, so I just wanted to get the players right.
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PS. LOL on the Don Quixote. Now I know why he is called "The one whose name will not be mentioned". :-X
My name is Greg by the way.
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As an innocent bystander it seems to me that the way he runs his forum is very unprofessional and would drive new members away.
Here is a perfect example:
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Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:24 PM
My wife and I are shopping for our first spa and would like some advice we have looked from HotSprings to Coleman to Sundance and many others. Any help would be great. We have budgeted between $5000 and $6000 (3-5 people).
Thanks!
Art and Lilly
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Date: Thursday, July 27, 2006 06:19 PM
OH,
I'll let you know what I find. Mr. Quixote I have changed my mind don't send those email.
If you treat your customers like you speak out in this board my wife and I do not want to hear what you have to say or sell for that matter. I did visit your site and was not impressed.
Art & Lilly
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Why do y'all call him Don Quixote? I mean, I get that he is delusional (read a little at his site- made my blood boil before I even knew anything about this site). But Don Quixote was a fool in a POSITIVE way, right? Wanted to be a hero, fought windmills (oops), and was the ultimate idealist?
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I did not call him that. I typed in his real name and by magic it turned to DQ.
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Oh come on, guys didn't you know that he's the world formost authority on spas?...(some actual quotes from the lunatic) :
"I don't know of anyone on any of those message boards who understand the issues with spas better than me"
"I started making Caven Spas out of my mercy for humanity"
"I know more about the spa industry that any other human being that I have ever met".
"I didn't ask for this position in the industry. It sort of happened by God's grace."
"The problem is that I know a hell of a lot more than you ever will"
"I am sure by now that you must know that debating spas engineering with me is not a good thing to do."
ahhh, words of wisdom.
;)
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Oh come on, guys didn't you know that he's the world formost authority on spas?...(some actual quotes from the lunatic) :
"I am sure by now that you must know that debating spas engineering with me is not a good thing to do."
;)
Debate with this person is impossible.
He's way too irrational to engage in any discussions- god help you should disagree, even in a minor way to his SPA Gospel.
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"As an electrical engineer" - read that over there. Amazing.
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His board is riddled with absolutley stunning comments. He dances around the fact he has no training, and always alludes to having an advanced degree. When in fact he doesn't.
He likes to use the word "Studied" (as in "studied" engineering, electronics, marketing etc). Implying he's received accrediated tutaliage from a proffesor, and has been tested and scored with a passing grade.
I can say I've "studied" brian surgery for cripes sake.
Anyhow...More from his deranged celebrial cortex:
'I went to college at night and had many nights where I didn't sleep much, studying for tests and deeply involved in electronics, mathematics and engineering subjects."
"That is because of the fact that most spa companies have no engineers at all."
"Because I am a technical person, with background in several technical fields and in engineering studies"
"I am an electronics designer as well as a spa designer and electrician. "
"That is typical of slippery salesguys. They imply, infer, and tell lies in order to sell an inferior product to uninformed spa shoppers."
And one of my favorites....
"Whenever I have an "engineering question", I consult my brother (35 plus years ), the real engineer. "
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My Vote is Archie Bunker.
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From what little I know him, this is him in a nutshell:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_complex
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THAT'S IT !! YES YES YES ! THAT IS IT!!
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Snipped frow Wikipedia:
Some believe that 'god complexes' are "particularly common in arrogant, highly educated, worldly, or powerful people.
Well he only exhibits one of the above listed characteristics. Betcha can't guess which!
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I'm guessing NOT a)highly educated, b) worldly or c)powerful.....hell, I'd hazard a guess that he's not a d)people, either, but I could be wrong on that one.....so....COMMON and ARROGANT. How'd I do?
"I don't know what your problem is, but I bet it's hard to spell!"
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'I went to college at night and had many nights where I didn't sleep much, studying for tests and deeply involved in electronics, mathematics and engineering subjects."
"That is because of the fact that most spa companies have no engineers at all."
"Because I am a technical person, with background in several technical fields and in engineering studies"
"I am an electronics designer as well as a spa designer and electrician. "
"That is typical of slippery salesguys. They imply, infer, and tell lies in order to sell an inferior product to uninformed spa shoppers."
And one of my favorites....
"Whenever I have an "engineering question", I consult my brother (35 plus years ), the real engineer. "
If anyone with a REAL college education wrote that way (except in the context of an extremely informal email or cyber talk in which real grammar rules go out the door) I'd eat my shorts.
Sorry Drewstar- it ended up looking like I was quoting you, not borrowing your quote. Not intended that way!
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Maybe Drewstar is Jim!!!!!!? :o :o :)
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Maybe Drewstar is Jim!!!!!!? :o :o :)
Bite your tounge!!!! :P
Jim, will admit he has no formal education. You need to search his posts, and you'll find it. But he'll talk as if he does. To the casual reader, or someone "new" to his pontifications, he'll do everything he can to give you the impression he is an engineer. Just about every topic he talks about starts off with "i've studied" Which is really an open ended statement. What the hell does "Studied" mean? Read an article? thought "really really really hard about it?" It's meaningless.
He enjoys claiming that most of his customers are highly educated, once agian tyring to imply that if "smart" people are buying from him, he too must also be smart.
"You have to remember that most of my customers are exceptionally intelligent.
I have been a genius most of my life"
Every once and a while, he'll make such an bizzare statment, you sit there just scratching your head, with your mouth agape.....
"Most of the Chinese, and Japanese people I know are smarter than you can imagine."
But, in his defense,
I have never been diagnosed with any mental illnesses. I have never has any bouts with any mental problems
Then again, I don't think many people have to try and concive other people that are not crazy. If you find yourself constantly having to remind folks you're not insane, you may want to take a step back and re-consider how you are presenting yourself to people. Or, at least that's what a sane person would do.
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Which leads one to ask... Do insane people KNOW they're insane? :-/
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Good question Steve.. Do they?
1Which leads one to ask... Do insane people KNOW they're insane? :-/
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Which leads one to ask... Do insane people KNOW they're insane?
I refer you to an early scene in the movie Blue Thunder with Roy Schrieder. In it, he closes his eyes and starts a stopwatch. He closes his eyes and stops the watch when he things a minute has gone by. His theory is that an insane person can't distinguish a minute from an hour.
Yes, I know it was fiction and yes, I got within 3 seconds of correct. ;D
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Which leads one to ask... Do insane people KNOW they're insane?
I refer you to an early scene in the movie Blue Thunder with Roy Schrieder. In it, he closes his eyes and starts a stopwatch. He closes his eyes and stops the watch when he things a minute has gone by. His theory is that an insane person can't distinguish a minute from an hour.
Yes, I know it was fiction and yes, I got within 3 seconds of correct. ;D
Blue Thunder was a crappy movie. What's next, quotes from "Weekend at Bernies II" to explain why honesty is important in a relationship?
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From what little I know him, this is him in a nutshell:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_complex
Although Puddin Head tends to position this complex, I think he does so purely out of ignorance. Maybe, he does it BECAUSE he has heard that intelligent, successfull, etc people have been known to use it. You see he likes to ASSOCAITE himself (falsely) with success whe in fact, his actions demonstrate nearly the exact diametric opposite. No, Jim does not have a God Complex (but he likes to PRETEND that he does). His comments do crack me up as he has to be just about the worst debater I have EVER run across in my many years. Truly a sad person. Although others have referred to him with a variety of differing names, I now simply refer to him as "Goober" as his responses are so stupid.
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Although others have referred to him with a variety of differing names, I now simply refer to him as "Goober" as his responses are so stupid.
I prefer "putz". But now I have to thank him for leaving a link of a website that took it upon themselves to "borrow" about a dozen of my images.
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somewhere I read that 1 of 4 people in the US suffer from mental illness.....take 3 of your friends, if they're all ok, then it's YOU. :)
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I believe I got banned. I made one post a week ago saying "Amy sure has a way with words."
I tried to log in today as I thought he might get a kick out of this pic as he seems to be a fun-loving guy, but it wouldn't let me on. Oh well.
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/cc891549.jpg)
Terminator
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OMG I just read his forum and its becoming (in my opinion) a "Spa Cult" one girl is following him and pledging hes the greatest human to ever walk to the earth. Whats next? barracading in underground bunkers? Taking multiple wives? Where may the madness end? Will it end in a battle where he turns a hottub into a tank and defends the other freaks against the evil doers? Is that music really banjo music? Do they all live in the same house? Are "sleeze bag" spa salesmen going to start mysteriously dissapearing?Has anyone ever actually to see if his copyrights are real? Its getting just down right wierd over there! I fear for his customers and I am being serious when I say that! :-?Please remember that these are just my questions and opinions I may be wrong.(Yes a lawyer told me to always add that previous line)
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It's not like I couldn't log in as many times as I wanted lol,if I chose to use a proxy etc etc. I haven't bothered with the nutcase since he banned me for my opinions lol.
He's a salesman and nuttin more,my opinion. His sales tactics very questionable,and I too feel for his customers.
He never did answer my question as far as....how do the other professionals in the spa industry,feel about you?
Think that's obvious. If he's so self-proclaimed smart,why does he choose to alienate himself from his fellow brothers/sisters? Would it have started way back when during his childhood?
My opinion,he has no trub tellin lies/fibs.....and he doesn't know how to deal with people other than a bs relationship with god etc. 1 of his probs is getting along with people. That will never change with him as he sees himself as better than others. That had to start at a very young age in his life.
Well I'm tired so headin to bed,to be continued lol
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I'm guessing that the "spa cult girl" isn't as "she" seems.
If she is really legit, haven help her.
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I'm guessing that the "spa cult girl" isn't as "she" seems.
If she is really legit, haven help her.
I concur Brewman :)
A few years back I personally tracked his Ip's and others,to verify my thoughts. More than once I found this and that ;)
What I loved was, I had a real electrical engineer buddy of my,pose a few questions to him on his board. This was over 2 years ago. His response/answers were comical,and it only reaffirmed in my mind,what a BSer he really is!
He's nuttin more than a gypsy in the age of the internet,peddling snake-oil and uses "fear" and "superiority" as his sales tactics. Bet his parents are proud!
Lastly,there's no way in hades that he believes in god etc as logic will tell ya......... As he has lied,and uses business practices that HE knows are wrong.....If he really believed in god,wouldn't he be scared of the punishment he will receive,when he reaches his maker?
And I agree with others,he has limited debate skills. Chas and others have proven that. I like a good debate,and when I want,I can tango with the best of em lol. There are rules to be followed in a debate. He breaks almost all of em LOLOL
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New to this forum. After reading this thread, I had to know more about this guy. I have been to his site, logged onto his forum, and read both Erik's and Andy's stories. All I can say is WOW!!! The scary thing is, I live in the Denver area, as a spa tech I was looking for a job about this time last year. HIS IS ONE OF THE PLACES I APPLIED TO!!!
Dondged a huge bullet there. But now I have to see it all for myself. I think I will go to his store and check out the sales pitch. Just gotta make sure I don't get pulled into the "cult" LOL.
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Just be careful you don't get too close to the ozinator fumes emitted from his tubs. What I've heard is,people that have visited his shop,smelled something funny coming from his tubs. Over a period of 72 hours,these perfectly sane people were then suddenly transformed into paper injunears,and praise Conjuna daily.
1 of the things Conjuna sells,is bronze Idols of himself. I've yet to have seen 1 personally,but I think Terminator and others have pics of it. The kicker to this idol is,it has an ATM slide slot,which directly deposits into the Spa Deceptionists cult fund.
Tumbleweed,be afraid,very afraid ;)
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If she is really legit, haven help her.
LOLOLOL ;D
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From the land of Jabberwokie comes this post from a customer:
We have a Caven Meadowbrook with 2 pumps, pump 1 with the filters and one suction return, and pump 2 with 2 suction returns. This is adequate for normal operation. We often have youngsters playing in the tub (a wonderful, safe, and fun place to have hours of fun). We even installed DAIT 3 to assure that the water would be at a safe low temperature in the summer for them.
When one of the plastic dishes or tubs or whatever the kids are playing with get sucked over one of the intakes, the affected pump starts making all kinds of hurtful noises and the plastic toy gets crushed and is impossible to remove without turning off the pump (or whole spa if it is in the filter cycle).
Um. Something isn't right. It crushes the the toys and the pumps screech, and impossible to remove the item?
Good lord.
See what you get when you have a self taught "engineer" design a tub?
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I seriously fear for those children's lives. That sounds like an extremely dangerous design flaw. I can envision bathing suits or toys blocking some of the suction fittings and then.....disembowelment or worse.
Thank goodness I don't have to worry about my customers' safety.
Terminator
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The screwed up thing is, does Nutbag warn him? Tell him to turn off the tub and keep children out of it?
No.
He replies:
Your spa has four suction inlets. There are two for pump two in the bottom, and the other two are the filter housing and the other, third suction in the bottom. This follows the ANSI UL standards.
In the SC spas we have up to 7 suctions in the bottom plus the filter. I have felt the suction on all of our spas and none that I know of have what you say. Can you feel all the suctions in the bottom to see that they are all working properly. They should feel about the same. If both suctions are covered then you will get hard suction on both of them.
What type of screwed up answer is that? This is probably one of the most dangerous situtations that can occur in a tub, yet he responds with a spec?!?! I honestly think this posting over there is a joke. It's got to be. No one. No one in thier right mind would answer like that. Furthermore I can't believe he'd let a legitmate post about a deadly fault get posted there.
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After reading that letter from his customer, I am officially starting The Church of Chas. This quote will be engraved at the entrance:
two filters per pump with NO suction fittings in the bathing area is far safer than two suctions in the bather area. The water flows into the filter area through THREE openings: the weir itself, and two open vents which allow free flow of water.
The filters are large enough and have enough surface area that you can't get stuck on them. Don't believe me? Go stick you hand in any running HotSpring Portable Spa. Turn on as many pumps to whatever combination of speeds you like, and then reach into the filter area and find a place where you can feel a strong suction. You might be able to tell that water is going into the filters, but you will NOT find any areas of suction.
It certainly is unfortunate his tubs are not sold in Canada, otherwise I too can have suction in the bathing area. What guy does not love suction?
I guess I just have to be happy with my safe Vanguard.
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OMG! I am tellin you the end will come only when someone dies! These spas are dangerous!!!!!!!! Every time I turn on the heat and the phones start ringing I get shut down by the powers that be.
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After reading that letter from his customer, I am officially starting The Church of Chas.
Thanks, but a small donation to the college of my daughter's choice will suffice.
8-)
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I am not worthy. ;)
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Didn't Jimmy boy rant off on if some little kids decided to remove all the filters from a Hot Springs spa, and somehow managed to wedge their head into the filter compartment that they'd get sucked in and drown?
I clearly remember his rantings on that subject. How ironic.
But not surprising in the least.
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I do recall those posts. Interesting how easy it is for him to switch points of view.
I got him to go quite a few posts without much trouble. Amazing how sensitive he is getting these days - I wonder if something is wrong somewhere in his life?
If he keeps going like this one of us may very well get a novel out of him by just posting a smiley face.
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you wont see much from him hes busy ruining Terms life, hey I thougth he vowed not to post on that site again, he lied to us, I am shocked, I am also wondering how long it takes to reconstruct a webpage that holds all teh ETL info on his tubs and I also wonder how long customers will have to email him to get his story about how they are infact listed despite the fact that ETL told him to stop, I am also amazed that he is even allowed to sell spas in this state, oh geez Im gonna get a phone call for sure.
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After 6 days off I only glanced as his site. 1 post I found funny though. A consumer posted and he baned him saying his IP was not from CO as claimed. What an idiot. The guys IP DOES go to CO. But he's using comcast and the fool traced him all the way back to comcast cooperate in New York.............. and I thought I was paranoid ;) :D ;D :o
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I took my whacks tonight on the other board. What fun! ;D
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I posted a few days ago just suggesting that a lady looking for advice on what tub to buy get her info from sites NOT directly associated with one brand... She was starting to sound a little too enamoured with the Specialist. I got banned.
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Which leads one to ask... Do insane people KNOW they're insane?
I refer you to an early scene in the movie Blue Thunder with Roy Schrieder. In it, he closes his eyes and starts a stopwatch. He closes his eyes and stops the watch when he things a minute has gone by. His theory is that an insane person can't distinguish a minute from an hour.
Yes, I know it was fiction and yes, I got within 3 seconds of correct. ;D
Blue Thunder was a crappy movie. What's next, quotes from "Weekend at Bernies II" to explain why honesty is important in a relationship?
I liked it and always remember that scene :P
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I forced myself to stay away awhile, wow, is this Amy a nutball?
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An hour after getting back from vacation I get a PM from him on another board saying how he knows I've been making posts on his board and how sick I am. WTF? I message him back telling him I've been out of the country for 6 days and his paranoia is showing. He messages back some 6 pages of babble, that I can only get through the first 1-1/2 paragraph of.... The guy is truly derranged.
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I agree with ya Dr. Spa. When the wife and I were first looking for a spa etc...like 3-4 years ago,we both surfed the web. We found this and other various boards,and asked alot of questions etc.
I can still remember my wife saying,that Conjuna needs medical treatment(that's the short of it). She's been a nurse almost 25 years,and when she was in nursing school,1 of her minors was pysch. She amazes me on how she reads people! She has been correct in her assumptions about people,99% of the time too.
It doesn't take someone with a high IQ,to realize that Conjuna is truly out there! After analyzing his traits etc over the last few years,I have come to the conclusion,that he really believes there's nothing wrong with him.
If he could only ask himself,WHY he has such a hard time getting along with people,and WHY is has occured during his entire lifetime.....he would begin to understand WHY he's constantly bickering with people. Self-Superority is 1 of his traits,and most of his brothers/sisters in the profession,would and will tell you,that he is degrading,and contributes little/nothing to the profession,in a POSITIVE fashion.
I'll say it again,I had my electrical engineer friend ask several questions directed to him,a few years back. Tech questions etc. Conjuna was clueless with his response. That in itself confirmed what a BS artist he is,and comfirmed my suspicions of him. He's a liar,as he was caught numerous times posing as various people on the net. He did it to seed a thread,and,to ARGUE with people.
What's with his ETL listing? I believe Chas asked him direct,and in simple terms. Conjuna never answered THAT question. He choose to do a spin on it,as is per norm for Conjuna. I believe that's all he knows,is BS on top of BS.
And so it's understood,I don't hate the gypsy,but,I can't stand people being hustled by him...so in that regards,I can't stand his business practices,nor the lies etc!
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He won't answer direct questions unless they suit his purpose. Otherwise he dodges the issue, changes the subject, or starts calling the person who asked the questions an idiot.
He's trapped himself big time on the ETL issue. But he can't prove that HIS spas are ETL listed because they are not. What is it now, that ETL never updates their website, despite the fact that some very current spa models from other makers are listed?
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Shamelessly sniped from the forbidden zone:
"Anyone know of a service technician in the Maryland area that is familiar with H###n Spas. Local Spa company has no clue. Not sure I want a technician who isn't qualified. Even if he may be qualified on the individual components.
Then again - this may be a wonderful opportunity to introduce him and his company to the benefits of the H###n Spa.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
I guess one of the benefits is not having support for service?
His customers are truly kool aid drinkers. Here's someone who has a broken spa, can't get service for it, and is happy.
Sheeshhhh
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This one is just to good not to add to archives of insane quotes:
When you don't have their attention and you are trying to get some truth in their heads, insulting them is a good way to get them to engage in discussion and arguments.
Let's see if Jim's therory is correct.
Hey Jim, you pile of steaming human waste, you wouldn't know a fact if it came up and bit you on your crusty sagging butt. In fact, I think you're either on drugs, or your brian has rotted away from some untreated sexualy transmitted disease you picked up when you had sex with a donkey.
Hmmmm. Hopefully the above will prove to be a good way to engage him in a discussion and argurments. Let's wait and see.....
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Well the other board has once again bben overrun and the woners or mods are gone! Some dude is just posting vulger sayings all over the board. I mean NASTY stuff!
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I personally am in favor of the mad witch doctor Avatar on the other board ;)
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He banned me from his forum and all I did was ask if he had any Haven spas in North Dakota. He told me they had one in Rapid City SD and asked if it got cold up here. I never answered his post but he banned me anyway.
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He banned me from his forum and all I did was ask if he had any Haven spas in North Dakota. He told me they had one in Rapid City SD and asked if it got cold up here. I never answered his post but he banned me anyway.
Amazing lol. As he is self professed in almost everything,did he flunk geography? I was always under the assumption that ND gets heavy amounts of snow etc. Maybe he missed the simple clue NORTH? LOL
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It's getting pretty crazy over at Poolandspa.com.
You guys can feel free to use this one for Jim:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/cooltoy2000/gay.jpg)
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It's a damn dirty shame.
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LOL ;D
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(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/0be951f5.jpg)
Terminator
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Was hoping to put this pic on the other site....But I guess they have shut that off?
Was Thinking Conjuna could put this sticker next to the ETL sticker/s in his rebranded spas.
(http://www.starterupsteve.com/funny15/electricity.jpg)
P.S. Term...lots of pics etc on that site ;)
If you need more goofy links etc...let me know,I have zillions of em
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Just curious if this is a CaVeN spa...the gurl in the forground looks spaced out,and appears to have sipped from Conjunas batch of Kool-Aid.
(http://k43.pbase.com/o4/46/3146/1/56220165.hoagie_down_II6616sm.jpg)
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Add another banned user to the list ;D
I'm pretty sure he baited me by using a fake name and sent me a pm, because I have been nothing but curteous on his site. I told the person that if they wanted to see the real jim, to go to the other forum (that is now being moderated.) Oh well.
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He even had to lock down his own site. I think he's getting beaten up pretty bad. I'd feel bad for the guy if he wasn't such a lying schmuck.
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I refuse to sign up....and i am sure there are alot of customers that will also bypass his sales site because of the sign up. You should be allowed to browse an open forum without signing up.
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Hes forced to go to sign up. see ya at his forum. ;D
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I refuse to sign up....and i am sure there are alot of customers that will also bypass his sales site because of the sign up. You should be allowed to browse an open forum without signing up.
Open forum, there? That's a good one!! ;D
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Well, even if a customer does get in, they will be treated to peoms. I think that means poems, but after reading it I'm not sure.
I'm not knocking this young lady's creativity, but it doesn't seem to have much to do with spas....
:-?
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Actually, I like it. She may not know it, or Jimbo may not understand that it's actually a form of poetry from the dada movement
see: dadaism.
http://www.geocities.com/allon_art/dadapoetry.html
Scat music in the jazz era moved it into american main stream. Although it's generaly belived that Scat came from jamaca. Given the time it emerged in the music industry, I wonder if the german dada movement did indeed play a part?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scat_singing
She very well might be the real thing, either that or a raving lunatic.
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I like Amy's poems. Too bad I can't see them anymore :'(
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Checked out the site just to see what this thread was all about :)
Found a few pages into it a nice customer letter that was posted with her permission. "How nice", I thought, that he took the time to ask her if it would be ok to post her kind letter and even included that so everyone knew it was used with permission.......until.......I got to the end of her note & saw he included all of her personal information. Yeah, that's what I want - some knucklehead posting my name, address, phone number, & email address on the web for every yahoo to see. Great customer care - & that's a customer he obviously likes very much! Don't know why he stopped there - he could have went the 10th yard & got her SSN & DL # posted as well. ::)
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Nobody ever accused him of being a rocket scientist. He's claimed the title for himself, but I don't think anyone else has ever thought it so.
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Well, I just got banned. Mind you - I had posted twice since he got the new software. Once was to answer a question for one of his customers about a swim spa, and the othet was to compliment Sandy on an ad she had put together with a nice photo she had taken.
That's it.
But I'm now banned.
Sigh....
8-)
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Yeah, there is nothing that I posted on his forum that could be considered negative towards his spas or him in general. Yet I got banned with a nasty letter from Jim.
Here it is if anyone cares:
From: James Arjuna <jim@spaspecialist.com>
[Add to Address Book]
To: SerjicalStrike
Subject: Sundance Spas are Crap
Date: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:44:30 PM
I just want you to know that you have been banned.
I had hoped that you were going to be a good honest person, but, I guess
you proved me wrong.
You broke a trust with me and for that you lost my freindship. I never
give, dishonest, people a second chance to
screw with my life again.
If you had any balls at all you would not be sneaking around behind my
back. You could have posted your crap, and I would have simply
put you in your place.
Sundance spas are crap, compared to our products. You have got to be
kidding, or blind.
Have you seen the crappy shells they make, or do you ever even look at
the ####ed up fiberglass job?
You have been writing to our prospective customers and lying to them.
I pray that you get the message, by how "what goes around comes around".
Jim
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Chas he banned you re-positing Amy's poem?
If he did. he's an ignorant a$$. He doesn't own that woman's writings and to ban people for that, well, assumes quite a bit on his end.
What a tool. :P
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No, I got a long detailed email telling me what he thought of me and mine - but no mention of Amy or her poetry.
He did ask why he would want somebody like me around his family, but I certainly don't want to be anywhere near his family. I just enjoy reading his boards now and then.
Wonder what he's hiding?
8-)
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No, I got a long detailed email telling me what he thought of me and mine - but no mention of Amy or her poetry.
He did ask why he would want somebody like me around his family, but I certainly don't want to be anywhere near his family. I just enjoy reading his boards now and then.
Wonder what he's hiding?
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Did you read that post by Amy talking about Jim and Sandy walking in the mountains holding hands and how romantic, and then she (amy) says that Jim would lean over and kiss "Me" meaning her. What's up with that?
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Wonder what he's hiding?
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That's a question best left unanswered. There are some places it's just too creepy to go, and his head is certainly one of them in my opinion.
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What a tool. :P
Yeah, he's a tool alright- A left handed monkey wrench leaps to mind.
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Anyone notice that he hasn't posted on the "other" forum for quite a while? Not his, but the one he has not been banned from yet. Did you scare him off Chas?
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I tend to believe it was me
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
And yes, I'm proud of it..........VERY proud!
I still wish I could have seen his face when he reread his own post and it said, "This post was edited by Dr. Spa."......... on second thought ;D
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Between the two of you he didn't stand a chance. ;D
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There is no doubt in my mind with Doc and Chas moderating the board and setting up some rules like:
No lying. No outrageous promotion of your own products, and no threatening other members, He just had nothing left to post about.
He did try to have one of his minions start to post, who had a much better persona, but once again, with rules like no lying....there's not too much he can talk about.
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Just curious,what's Conjuna up to lately? Haven't seen him on any of the boards I visit on occasion.
Did the spa internet police finally wise up and take his toys away? ;)
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Just curious,what's Conjuna up to lately? Haven't seen him on any of the boards I visit on occasion. Did the spa internet police finally wise up and take his toys away? ;)
Well, he's banned on this board - Thank-you Bubba Bill - and Andy and I are moderators now at "Pool Search" web board, so he can't get out of line any more and doesn't seem to want to try. He was banned at PoolandSpa.com at the same time they made me a moderator, and Matt banned him from PoolSpaForum even before I was made moderator there.
Hmm. I see a trend developing here...
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Gentlemen & Ladies:
I have read this entire string and I have to say something just to get it off my chest.
Why have you folks allowed this con-man to piss you all of so bad that you cannot stop jabbering about him? You are doing nothing more than making him a curiousity that others then seek out.
I have been a member here since before we bought our tub and I have always admired this sites level of professionalism. I have also visited the con mans site and after doing some reading can see right through the BS. Why let this guy get your goat so bad? I'm sure others will also see the BS. Why else would his forum become "read only". In fact, is that even a forum?
I have spoke with my regional BBB guy and they are looking into his BBB membership. I explained to them that I had problem with the fact that as a business owner and BBB member in a all together different field that I sense some double standards were being established. Come on! How could you screw so many people and still reamain as a member. Does the BBB need the $750.00 that much? I'll keep everyone posted.
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Gentlemen & Ladies:
I have read this entire string and I have to say something just to get it off my chest.
Why have you folks allowed this con-man to piss you all of so bad that you cannot stop jabbering about him? You are doing nothing more than making him a curiousity that others then seek out.
I have been a member here since before we bought our tub and I have always admired this sites level of professionalism. I have also visited the con mans site and after doing some reading can see right through the BS. Why let this guy get your goat so bad? I'm sure others will also see the BS. Why else would his forum become "read only". In fact, is that even a forum?
I have spoke with my regional BBB guy and they are looking into his BBB membership. I explained to them that I had problem with the fact that as a business owner and BBB member in a all together different field that I sense some double standards were being established. Come on! How could you screw so many people and still reamain as a member. Does the BBB need the $750.00 that much? I'll keep everyone posted.
I find it hard to belive he has a BBB membership in good standing on his advertising alone. His "articles" - which are just rambling essays he wrote to embelish his product, are rife with false information, negative attatcks on other legitmate business. How can a business venture be a member of the BBB when it openly attacks people, and other businesses? It' a business site and it's full of lible and outright lies.
Plus I willadmit, I'm entertained by his idoitic statements. The man is certifiable. It's like watching a train wreck.
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Why have you folks allowed this con-man to piss you all of so bad that you cannot stop jabbering about him? You are doing nothing more than making him a curiousity that others then seek out.
I have been a member here since before we bought our tub and I have always admired this sites level of professionalism. I have also visited the con mans site and after doing some reading can see right through the BS. Why let this guy get your goat so bad? I'm sure others will also see the BS. Why else would his forum become "read only". In fact, is that even a forum?
You haven't been around here very long. Jim got a heckuva lot more mention here in years past. In fact, it's been downright dead on the topic pretty much all summer and beyond. If, as you say, is website is so easy to see for what it its, then you shouldn't have any issue with us discussing it. If you saw thru it, so will others who are driven there out of curiousity.
Maybe the threads here do good- to tip off people spa shopping about him.
You should have been around here before he was banned, or the times he registered with fake ID's. That was some very entertaining times.
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What? My pics aren't entertaining enough? ;) :D
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Brewman I have no problems with your discussion of the con man. In fact I have no problems at all. I just wondered why you folks let him get under your skin or in other words "let him bother you"?
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Well, a little FYI. He just got himself banned off the only other board he was allowed to post on.
He made it for 47 glorious days though.
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For those of you who are members of his forum, he was in rare form yesterday. Check it out for some good laughs... :)
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Brewman I have no problems with your discussion of the con man. In fact I have no problems at all. I just wondered why you folks let him get under your skin or in other words "let him bother you"?
He doesn't bother me. As someone else put it, he's like watching a train wreck- you just gotta look. Plus he's so far out in left field it's actually entertaining for me when he goes off on one of his little rants.
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I agree that he is really quite funny.
He PM'd me on the "other" forum about how I was a sucker for buying a Watkins product..(out of nowhere, I've never even posted in a thread he was involved in.)
I replied that he was delusional, and it was a shame that he could not converse without lies and a bad sales pitch........then I blocked him ;D ;D ;D