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Title: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on April 09, 2006, 07:27:42 pm
Okay, so the ONLY way this is hot tub related is due to it NOT being able to support the purchase of one, either then or now.
My son and I went to McDonald's the other day for a quick, cheap lunch. They had applications on the counter (mini-apps is more like it), and it listed the starting wages. $6/hr. Now, that might seem "right in line" with the current minimum wage rate and all, BUT....I sat and considered something else....19 years ago I worked for McD's, and then the starting wage was $3.35/hr......in almost 20 years the wages have only gone up by $2.65?!?!?!
WOW!
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: wmccall on April 09, 2006, 08:24:57 pm
In 1975 the McDonalds the McDonald's paid $1.95/hour.  
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Brewman on April 09, 2006, 09:55:23 pm
There aren't any places around here that can get away paying minimum wage, except jobs that also pay tips, like restaurant servers.  
The starting wage at McD's and similar is more like $8, and they have a hard time getting employees.  

The minimum wage has trippled in the past 35 years, roughly.  Probably not keeping with the rate of inflation, from the looks of it.  But when they raised it recently, it hardly caused comment here, since nobody gets away with paying it.  That's how it is here, other places probably are different in that respect.
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Chas on April 10, 2006, 12:28:04 am
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In 1975 the McDonalds the McDonald's paid $1.95/hour.  

My first job was at a Mickey Dees - I was paid $1.65 per hour, but they took a dime an hour back as a food allowance.

They let us eat all we wanted. That lasted a month, I think.


But I had a Harley and I could go two weeks on a full tank of gas - which cost me less than one hour's wages.
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: wmccall on April 10, 2006, 08:15:21 am
I've never looked down upon a person for what kind of job they had, with the exception of McDonald's Managers.  All of the ones I had were child abusing over bearing monsters who couldn't make it anywhere else adn this is the only job the judge would let them have around children.  Now of course I realize that is just a stereo type, but a boss would not walk away from me now if he had done some of that stuff to me now.
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: drewstar on April 10, 2006, 10:04:11 am
I worked for burger king in 1980. (wow 26 years ago). I think the wage was around $3.35

October 1938          $0.25
October 1939          $0.30
October 1945          $0.40
January 1950          $0.75
March 1956           $1.00
September 1961       $1.15
September 1963       $1.25
February 1967         $1.40
February 1968         $1.60
May 1974            $2.00
January 1975          $2.10
January 1976          $2.30
January 1978          $2.65
January 1979          $2.90
January 1980          $3.10
January 1981          $3.35
April 1990              $3.80
April 1991              $4.25
October 1996          $4.75
September 1997       $5.15


Anyhow,   I don't belive in min wage laws.    :P

And I had a great time with my managers.    Some were dinks, but for the most part, I enjoyed my burger flippin youth.  And some of the stories of the after hours parties...well, they were a 16 y.o. dream come true.  ;)
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: tanstaafl2 on April 10, 2006, 01:16:37 pm
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And I had a great time with my managers.    Some were dinks, but for the most part, I enjoyed my burger flippin youth.  And some of the stories of the after hours parties...well, they were a 16 y.o. dream come true.  ;)


I never worked in a fast food restaurant but I did work at Six Flags over Georgia for three summers in High School (mid-late 70's). Because we were classified as "seasonal" employees we made LESS than minimum wage. But you want to talk about after hours parties!

I was a ride operator on the Scream Machine, briefly the tallest and fastest wooden coaster in the world, and often the employees would get the run of the park after hours. Many rides were not at the full setting. Scream machine only had one setting of course although we would let it run almost continuously without stopping it in the station. But others could go much faster than park guests were allowed (Bumper cars for instance...). and we could do pretty much as we pleased as long we didn't kill or (permanently) maim one another.

:o

Not to mention the more remote sections of the park where a whole different kind of recreational activity would take place...

 ::)
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Snowbird on April 10, 2006, 09:03:27 pm
You may remember the Christmas fiasco a certain airline had at a large northeastern airport a few years ago.  It was an embarrassing disaster caused in large part by massive understaffing due to the bankruptcy they were going thru.

As a result they went on a hiring spree to get the staffing up, but only offered minimum wage or maybe a little higher.  I'm not sure of the exact amount.  But the result was they couldn't hardly hire anyone.

To work for an airline you must pass an initial drug test.  Very few of the applicants could pass because of the type of applicant the low wage attracted.  The hiring program was not successful until they increased the starting wage to a level that could attract drug-free applicants.

So not only do they have to find young people with a decent public school education (most public HS graduates have a hard time making change), but they have to find drug free applicants.

It just shows that the minumum wage really doesn't mean much.  Employers have to pay to attract an applicant capable of doing the job.  In most cases a person on welfare or unemployement will have a net loss by working for minimum wage.

And trying to live on it is not a good life, even of you are single living with your parents.
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Brookenstein on April 12, 2006, 11:43:23 pm
When I was in college, I was an assistant manager at a movie theater and I think I made $5.15/hr (97-98).  Granted I got all the free popcorn, soda, and movies I wanted, but I also had to close the theater alone at night and we were located on a truck stop.  Often times it was me and one or two truckers for the 10 oclock set and that was it.  It was really scary sometimes.  
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Brewman on April 13, 2006, 08:44:50 am
Wow, a movie theater giving away free popcorn and soda!  Probably the two least expensive and most profitable things they sell.
I was a shift manager at a Burger King in high school, and I tried to use the cost of soda syrup to calculate our cost, and I discovered that we paid more for the cup, lid, and straw, than we did for the water, syrup and CO2 gas that made up the contents.  
Cost for a large soda was maybe $0.10 at the most.
And that's all we got free, we had to pay full price for everything else.  Cheapskate owners.

You had good reason to be scared, Brooke.
I had many scary nights working late at Burger K.  
We got robbed at gunpoint (once by a recently terminated manager- NOT ME) a few times, luckily never on my shift.  
If I ever have to put myself in that type of a situation again, I'm going to be armed- company rules be damned.  
Back then most robbers just stole the money and ran, nowdays they shoot the employees after they get the money.


Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: drewstar on April 13, 2006, 09:21:49 am
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Wow, a movie theater giving away free popcorn and soda!  Probably the two least expensive and most profitable things they sell.
 I was a shift manager at a Burger King in high school, and I tried to use the cost of soda syrup to calculate our cost, and I discovered that we paid more for the cup, lid, and straw, than we did for the water, syrup and CO2 gas that made up the contents.  
 Cost for a large soda was maybe $0.10 at the most.
And that's all we got free, we had to pay full price for everything else.  Cheapskate owners.

You had good reason to be scared, Brooke.
 I had many scary nights working late at Burger K.  
We got robbed at gunpoint (once by a recently terminated manager- NOT ME) a few times, luckily never on my shift.  
 If I ever have to put myself in that type of a situation again, I'm going to be armed- company rules be damned.  
 Back then most robbers just stole the money and ran, nowdays they shoot the employees after they get the money.





Our owner made use the small dixi cups and we had to get permission to have a drink. Arrrrgh.

I was held up when I was a manager at a convience store and some punk put a revolver to my head for the $30 in the drawer.   The owner of the store was real nice, he told me I could have a free soda from the racks.   :P
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Brookenstein on April 13, 2006, 10:15:48 am
We had 4oz dixie cups to use with the soda and pop corn or coud bring our own container.  

Customers who wanted a water had to pay for the price of a soda just to get the cup, lol.

Another theater was robbed at gunpoint and the staff was tied up until customers found them.  I asked to have another staff member close with me and I was told they could find someone else altogether if I couldn't handle my responsibiliies (of closing alone).  
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: East_TX_Spa on April 13, 2006, 10:38:50 am
Ya'll could've used one of these:
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/d7cec5b1.jpg)

I think I found Savanna's Christmas present.

Terminator
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: drewstar on April 13, 2006, 10:51:31 am
Have her pick her favorite color:


(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/739/coloredguns0sq.jpg)
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: East_TX_Spa on April 13, 2006, 10:56:39 am
I wanna trick mine out to look like this:
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/60f4d51d.jpg)

Now that is uber-tactical!

Terminator
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: drewstar on April 13, 2006, 11:00:30 am
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I wanna trick mine out to look like this:
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/60f4d51d.jpg)

Now that is uber-tactical!

Terminator



ohhhhh.  Don't let Ted Kennedy see that gun. It looks scary and therefore he needs to pass more laws to protect us.  

Me? I think  it's killer-tastic!
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: East_TX_Spa on April 13, 2006, 11:03:56 am
I'm a little short of funds at the moment, so I might just have to settle for either this
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/e03ba942.jpg)

or just go ahead and buy a .50 cal kit gun
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/b2fffc3e.jpg)

Terminator
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Brewman on April 13, 2006, 11:06:04 am
I'm assuming that there is a rifle somewhere under all that stuff.  Would be a real PITA to conceal.
Your right Drew, it looks scary.  So we better get some federal laws passed that ban scary looking guns.
But we'll make it disappear in 10 years when the world realizes that it did nothing but cost the taxpayers a whole lot of money.

Oh, wait.  We already did that.  Not that past mistakes will ever prevent future one.

Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Snowbird on April 13, 2006, 11:02:46 pm
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I'm a little short of funds at the moment... Terminator

Try this one Term.  It's real cheap, but it is almost 6 feet long!

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/VeroSnowbird/P2160003.jpg)

Here are the plans for  the cannon.  Do not change the dimensions of the Combustion Chamber or barrel otherwise it will not operate well or perhaps even explode.  It makes a very loud noise and will fire downrange 300 yards or more depending upon potato shape and weight.  If the length of the barrel is shortened then the potato will not reach it's max velocity before exiting.  If the barrel is longer then the potato will start to slow before exiting.  There is some recoil also

USE SCHEDULE 40 PVC AND IT MUST, REPEAT MUST BE PRESSURE RATED PIPE.  Available at Lowes etc. The pipe will have a pressure rating on the side in red print. i.e. 280psi or 330psi.  as long as it is pressure rated and not CELLULAR CORE PIPE.

There is an exact ratio between combustion chamber volume and barrel diameter and volume 1.5 to 1.  These plans meet these requirements to a "T".

Needed:
I cut all the pipe on the Delta chop saw.

The most expensive item will be the charcoal ignitor at about $10.  Total cost under $20.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/VeroSnowbird/P2160002.jpg)

Some tips to follow:

Dry fit parts before cementing and remove rough edges
When cementing be careful not to let any cement run onto threads.

When cementing, push together and twist a little and hold pressure for about 20 seconds otherwise the two parts want to spring back a little.

If you use a charcoal ignitor, you will have to remove just a portion of the little "dog ears" in order to have it snap in place on the inside of the cap.

Some folks use a can of hair spray as a propellant however it makes things sticky inside.  Best to use Gillette spray deodorant in a Copper color can.  Can also use Carburetor spray cleaner or Ether starting fluid, but the Gillette seems to be best as it is a combination of several propellants.

AFTER ALL ASSEMBLY DO NOT FIRE FOR 24 HOURS This gives the cement proper time to cure.

Print this for work shop reference[/color]


Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: drewstar on April 14, 2006, 09:26:45 am
What is the cumbustable material you use with one of those?
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Brewman on April 14, 2006, 11:09:15 am
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What is the cumbustable material you use with one of those?


Some folks use a can of hair spray as a propellant however it makes things sticky inside.  Best to use Gillette spray deodorant in a Copper color can.  Can also use Carburetor spray cleaner or Ether starting fluid, but the Gillette seems to be best as it is a combination of several propellants.


Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: drewstar on April 14, 2006, 11:12:58 am
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 Some folks use a can of hair spray as a propellant however it makes things sticky inside.  Best to use Gillette spray deodorant in a Copper color can.  Can also use Carburetor spray cleaner or Ether starting fluid, but the Gillette seems to be best as it is a combination of several propellants.


 



You know, I read your post 2x and missed that paragraph. Sorry.

how much deoderant do you use?

Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Bonibelle on April 14, 2006, 12:19:53 pm
Drew, My kids made one of these around last Thanksgiving...they have tried several accelerants, propellants what ever you call them. If you search back to around that time, you can see the picture of it but I guess I don't have it anymore on my computer. Now they are attaching rockets to old Pinewood Derby cars and launching them on my lawn. What is it with guys and explosives?
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: drewstar on April 14, 2006, 12:24:51 pm
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Drew, My kids made one of these around last Thanksgiving...they have tried several accelerants, propellants what ever you call them. If you search back to around that time, you can see the picture of it but I guess I don't have it anymore on my computer. Now they are attaching rockets to old Pinewood Derby cars and launching them on my lawn. What is is with guys and explosives?



I don't know, but I have a whole closet full of stuff that goes "Boom" .

Guys like to blow things  up.

If all I do was could sit in my hot tub with a naked woman, drink beer all day and blow things up  while watching football my life would be complete and the picture of perfection. Nirvana.  ;D

/yea, I'm a complicated guy.  ;)
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Snowbird on April 14, 2006, 12:47:31 pm
Coincidently I just got this email from my friend who gave me the potato gun plans.  Here is what happened to him when he used a gun somebody else made.

Yesterday was at a picnic and they were shooting their own potato gun.
Doing a fine job of launching down range.  I shot one and picked the wrong
time.  Made the shot and the rear plug shattered where the ignition system
is attached.  it went backwards with the same force and the potato in the
other direction.  When it happened I could feel my hand stinging and almost
afraid to look as there were pieces of pvc on the deck.  I suspected a
missing or bloody finger.  Got away with all fingers and a burn on one with
a large blister.  Just lucky.


If you make that thing, please.....
[size=32][glb]BE CAREFUL!!![/glb][/size]
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Brewman on April 14, 2006, 01:46:23 pm
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how much deoderant do you use?



Enough to keep people from looking at me with a funny, nose wrinkling expression when I enter a room.

Good question, though.  If it was me, I'd start out with a one second spritz and see how far the tater flew.  
Then go from there.  
Except I'd be more likely to use ether or carb cleaner, since I have that stuff in the garage.  


Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Brewman on April 14, 2006, 01:50:54 pm
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What is is with guys and explosives?


We're not allowed to say.  We're sworn to secrecy on the subject but I'll squeal the secret if you tell me:

Why the need for infinite pairs of shoes?
Why spend time plucking out your eyebrows and then immediately draw them back in with a grease pencil?
Why only wear a dress once, and die if someone else at the party has one on just like it?

 
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: vlady on April 14, 2006, 02:30:10 pm
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Why the need for infinite pairs of shoes?
Why spend time plucking out your eyebrows and then immediately draw them back in with a grease pencil?
Why only wear a dress once, and die if someone else at the party has one on just like it?

  


Cause we can  ;D
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: drewstar on April 14, 2006, 02:41:03 pm
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 Enough to keep people from looking at me with a funny, nose wrinkling expression when I enter a room.

 Good question, though.  If it was me, I'd start out with a one second spritz and see how far the tater flew.  
 Then go from there.  
 Except I'd be more likely to use ether or carb cleaner, since I have that stuff in the garage.  


 



Wonderufl. This looks like a great project for me and my nephew.  ;D
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Brewman on April 14, 2006, 03:59:57 pm
 Let us know how it turns out.  

If I see a potato in orbit over the house, coming from the east, I'll know you used just a bit too much deoderant.

Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on April 14, 2006, 04:48:04 pm
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Why the need for infinite pairs of shoes?
Why spend time plucking out your eyebrows and then immediately draw them back in with a grease pencil?
Why only wear a dress once, and die if someone else at the party has one on just like it?

1) because steel toe work boots just do NOT go with silk blouses.
2) I dunno, I just rip 'em out, no replacing here.
3)nonono.....wear it....if someone else has it on (hoping it's another WOMAN), spill something on her, and she'll leave, thus taking the problem away.  ;D
Title: Re: changes in 20 years...
Post by: East_TX_Spa on April 14, 2006, 04:54:58 pm
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What is it with guys and explosives?

They're like orgasms that produce fire and smoke and no childrens, the way it should be in human sexual relations.

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