Hot Tub Forum
General => Beating a dead horse => Topic started by: spaman-- on October 31, 2008, 12:26:49 pm
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I have tried to reply and have no icons to do so, is this an evil attempt to take away my freedom of speech? ;)
Wait it is only on the thread where I challenge the Hot Spring "leader of the industry" quote.
I would only ad this: The number of dealers does NOT constitute the number of spas sold as many of those dealers sell less than 30 spas a year.
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I was thinking the same thing....I was also thinking the amount of spas you sell does not mean you are an industry leader either....I am sure the internet/box store tub companies sell a lot, along with Thermospas...does not make them a leader in my mind.
Companies that have been around for 25 plus years with a proven quality tub=industry leaders in my mind.
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I have tried to reply and have no icons to do so, is this an evil attempt to take away my freedom of speech? ;)
Wait it is only on the thread where I challenge the Hot Spring "leader of the industry" quote.
I would only ad this: The number of dealers does NOT constitute the number of spas sold as many of those dealers sell less than 30 spas a year.
Spaman,
1) Your point is well taken, the poster should have said "AN industry leader" rather than "THE industry leader". Its no different than many of us wishing people would say "one of the best" instead of "the best" when describing their spa of choice.
2) It isn't an evil way to take away your freedom of speech. Myself and other clear headed, rational thinking people also can't post. It's not just you and the few other nut cases on this site who are locked out so don't take it personally.
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Why are you posting pictures of my mother on the net? That is uncalled for and just rude! Stop by her house and get your darn dog he is $h!tting up the joint!
The picture you posted of me was long before I stopped smoking.
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Spaman,
1) Your point is well taken, the poster should have said "AN industry leader" rather than "THE industry leader". Its no different than many of us wishing people would say "one of the best" instead of "the best" when describing their spa of choice.
2) It isn't an evil way to take away your freedom of speech. Myself and other clear headed, rational thinking people also can't post. It's not just you and the few other nut cases on this site who are locked out so don't take it personally.
Sheesh! I have fallen to an all time low, I am now in the same classification as Spatech? ;D
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I was biting my tongue on that comment for a couple of days and decided to let it go, since there is no real proof of who sells the most or builds the best the best is in the eye of the beholder so its a dead horse to me, Ferrari builds a really nice car but doubt they sell as many as Ford or Chevy.
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Stop by her house and get your darn dog he is $h!tting up the joint!
When you gotta go, you gotta go!
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You could've at least slowed the car down a little for poor Remus. :'(
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I have tried to reply and have no icons to do so, is this an evil attempt to take away my freedom of speech? ;)
I hate to tell you buddy, "freedom of speech" only applies to venues that are public, that you own or rent, or where you're given permission to be. This, or any other website, being privately owned, your constitutional right off freedom of speech, doesn't apply here.
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I hate to tell you buddy, "freedom of speech" only applies to venues that are public, that you own or rent, or where you're given permission to be. This, or any other website, being privately owned, your constitutional right off freedom of speech, doesn't apply here.
Are we fighting? I guess you are right, however I would expect that since I have been a member here for a bit I would be able to challenge a statement when I feel it is incorrect, God knows I have taken alot of flack here. I guess that is what I meant by freedom of speech. If you and I are fighting Doc I need to know so I can send hundreds of unwanted magazine subscriptions to your house and work. ;D
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If they are gonna lock it,they may as well delete it! Suppose you could find the same type of thread in the dead horse section??
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I am speechless! If I were to say Cal Spas was "considered the leader in the industry" I would be takin" it from all sides, but I make reference to the fact that we are not all in agreement with the statement that Hot Spring is "the leader in the industry" the entire thread is silenced. I would hope that this site is more fair and balanced than that. I was under the impression that we are here to help people in their quest in a fashion that was non biased. I am confused, certainly I am not the only one? Maybe I am the only one. If I am wrong in my thinking tell me. :-X
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Are we fighting? If you and I are fighting Doc I need to know...
You do NOT want to fight with Doc! Remember what happened to the last guy that called him out? I do.
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Doc's a big dude...and he's got Charles Jefferson for backup!
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As far as I know Watkins outsells all others, has more dealers than all others, is represented in as many countries or more than all others.
I have never seen numbers posted from other manufacturers, nor have I ever seen another tub maker openly dispute the claim - and then back it up with real, hard, numbers.
The numbers I have seen come from acrylic suppliers, parts suppliers, even trucking companies who ship the things across the country.
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put those numbers up! How many spas does each brand sell each year. I think it is alot different than you think. Especially in this economy I seriously doubt that Hot Spring is #1. Post numbers from all the other big companies in the last 12 months and I would bet that Hot Spring is not #1. Until these numbers are posted it is a simple claim and that is all it is. Do not take someones word for it I say prove it!
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Units of Portable Spas sold in Longview, TX by major spa manufacturers:
Arctic..................<1 unit annually
Calspa................<1 " "
Dimension One....<1 " "
HotSpring............>All others combined annually
Jacuzzi Premium..<1 unit annually
Marquis...............<1 " "
Sundance............<1 " "
I found this doing a Goggle search....took like two minutes. ::)
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As far as I know Watkins outsells all others, has more dealers than all others, is represented in as many countries or more than all others.
I have never seen numbers posted from other manufacturers, nor have I ever seen another tub maker openly dispute the claim - and then back it up with real, hard, numbers.
The numbers I have seen come from acrylic suppliers, parts suppliers, even trucking companies who ship the things across the country.
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Im retracting what I said it's not worth the chit, I know how many we sell and I have a very good idea how the local HS dealer does, this town isn't that big, plain and simple I know we sell more.
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Come on everyone knows JA builds the best and sells the most spas, just ask him. :)
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I have tried to reply and have no icons to do so, is this an evil attempt to take away my freedom of speech? ;)
This certainly has been moved to the proper place but can we continue to lock Spaman out?
It would be priceless to see his reaction if everyone else could post here except for him. With Jim gone he's now our official Colorado conspiracy theorist!
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This certainly has been moved to the proper place but can we continue to lock Spaman out?
It would be priceless to see his reaction if everyone else could post here except for him. With Jim gone he's now our official Colorado conspiracy theorist!
I knew it! Now all I gotta do is prove it.
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Units of Portable Spas sold in Longview, TX by major spa manufacturers:
Arctic..................<1 unit annually
Calspa................<1 " "
Dimension One....<1 " "
HotSpring............>All others combined annually
Jacuzzi Premium..<1 unit annually
Marquis...............<1 " "
Sundance............<1 " "
I found this doing a Goggle search....took like two minutes. ::)
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We sold a unit in Longview, TX? Cool.
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Tom, that little triangular sign in front of the ONE means less than....less than one. Don't worry though, I don't think we've sold one in Longview, TX either
We sold a unit in Longview, TX? Cool.
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Tom, that little triangular sign in front of the ONE means less than.
Oh, don't pop my balloon. One sale in 14 years would qualify.