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Hot Tub Forum / Converting old Balboa TO 120v
« Last post by tfrasca on Today at 02:15:31 pm »
I just got an old Caldera hot tub, with a Balboa WH-CAT75 heater assembly. Based on the sticker, it was made in 2000. It's currently set up for 240v, but I think I'd rather run it on 120v because my house's electric situation is slightly complicated.

Following the wiring diagram on the front panel of the unit, setting it up for 120v is just a matter of moving a jumper to the 20 amp setting, rather than 50 amps, and making a jumper wire between two spade connectors on the board. Easy enough. What's not clear is how I wire up the main power wire to the terminal block on the board. Right now, it uses awg 6 wire with 2 hots, a neutral, and a ground. All the 120v hot tub cords I've seen use 3 wires, of course. My question is how do I wire the 3-wire cord to the terminal block?

Has anyone dealt with this on an older hut tub heater before?

Thanks for any input.
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: New Cantabria, salt or no salt?
« Last post by Spatech_tuo on August 02, 2021, 10:49:44 am »
We've been in the market for a new hot tub for a few years and have finally decided to pull the trigger on a new Caldera Cantabria! We've been quoted $18,000 and told that we can expect the tub in October. We're prepping the area where we're putting the tub (moving some sprinkler valves, running power under a concrete patio, installing a paver patio) and we've got everything about the tub picked out except whether we are going to include the salt system or not.

What are everyone's thoughts on the salt system? Does it make a big difference on the way your skin feels after soaking? Is there a significant difference on the difficulty or amount of time it takes to maintain the water? Those are to two factors that are most important to us so if the salt system has a significant impact on our skin and water maintenance then I think it'll be worth getting. Thanks!

I don't think there is much question that you'll prefer the water with a salt generator. Some dealers who don't sell them will give you reasons why you shouldn't get one for other reasons but they've improved greatly over the years and are becoming much more common place so some of the naysayers eventually will sell them and become backers just like every other advance in hot tubs over the years.

The first thing to realize is there is an added cost so if you're good with that (let your dealer spell that out and ask them not to sugar coat it) then realize there can be issues getting the hang of it and if your base water has issues (like heavy in phosphates) you'll need to get it taken care of.

The key to this really (and most other things relative to being a new spa owner) is having a dealer that has sold many of the systems you're looking at and has the hang of it so they can get you going on the right track from the get go. Some dealers are great at after sales water care help for their customers, some are ok and in some cases they just aren't a great deal of help.

If you get the vibe that your dealer will be a good source of help in this area + you value the benefits of a salt generator over the cost of operation then go for it.
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Gazebo?
« Last post by cranbiz on August 02, 2021, 10:36:29 am »
You could use corrugated clear roofing panels. They still don't give a totally clear view but what you can get from them might be good enough. Loom at them in the store first to see if you can live with the view. Lowes, Home Depot, etc. stocks them.

You also will need to consider a way to keep them clean and undamaged.
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Hot Spring Spas / Salt System Tips/Tricks
« Last post by wcmorris on August 02, 2021, 10:02:55 am »
Iím taking delivery of my Envoy this week and have been reading up on the salt system to ensure I understand how to get it started correctly. It seems that many have issues with it and I hear that proper setup is crucial to long term success.

For those of you that have experience with the Freshwater Salt System, do you have any tip or tricks that youíve learned along the way that might help set me up for success?
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Hot Tub Forum / New Cantabria, salt or no salt?
« Last post by jjbeck12 on August 01, 2021, 01:23:15 pm »
We've been in the market for a new hot tub for a few years and have finally decided to pull the trigger on a new Caldera Cantabria! We've been quoted $18,000 and told that we can expect the tub in October. We're prepping the area where we're putting the tub (moving some sprinkler valves, running power under a concrete patio, installing a paver patio) and we've got everything about the tub picked out except whether we are going to include the salt system or not.

What are everyone's thoughts on the salt system? Does it make a big difference on the way your skin feels after soaking? Is there a significant difference on the difficulty or amount of time it takes to maintain the water? Those are to two factors that are most important to us so if the salt system has a significant impact on our skin and water maintenance then I think it'll be worth getting. Thanks!
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Gazebo?
« Last post by havanaclub on August 01, 2021, 07:59:51 am »
Are you talking about a roof or full enclosure or other variant(this)? Assuming you are considering a full enclosure, here is my two cents:
Gazebo Pros:   
Privacy
Wind/Rain/Snow Shelter
Warmer area to towel off in the winter
Depending on size, entertainment centre possibilities (bar, stereo, tv etx)
In Rural areas can provide shelter from flying pests
Cons:
Obstructed view of the sky
Can be quite hot in the summer
Maintenance (staining etc)

HotTubMan
Sorry for the up, thinking about placing a gazebo on my patio. It's golden words and a perfect summary of answers to my questions. Costs more than $100 not 2 cents :D
All the best
Frank
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Likely the most common question
« Last post by The Wizard of Spas on July 31, 2021, 10:52:05 am »
Ozone makes a fine SUPPLEMENT to a proper sanitation regimen. Get proper sanitation figure out first.

+1.  Also - Filtration is oversold.  Like ozone, it is a great supplement but there is no substitute for proper water chemistry.

And to further what Spatech_tuo astutely pointed out - The benefits of a brand / negatives of a competing brand tend to be framed in how said brands are sold.  Lots of "Look over in my right hand so you do not notice what is going on in my left hand" tactics out there. 

Find the spa that is comfortable, then research the dealer.  Let that organically narrow your search.  Makes the decision much easier w/o having to be an expert first.

Good luck moving forward.
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Likely the most common question
« Last post by Tman122 on July 30, 2021, 09:04:40 pm »
Ozone makes a fine SUPPLEMENT to a proper sanitation regimen. Get proper sanitation figure out first.
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Likely the most common question
« Last post by tnlandsailor on July 30, 2021, 01:06:24 pm »
The question about ozone intrigues me as well. I was involved in the ozone business for a while and I use ozone all the time in my house for deodorizing strong odors and reducing allergens and such. I have generators on my central heat and air that come on at a low level whenever the fan is on. The ozone is great for sanitizing the air that travels through the ducts and can even kill any mold that might be in the ducts themselves given enough time. Ozone itself really isn't that harmful. It's an irritant to your lungs if you breath a big dose of it and if you have asthma you should limit your exposure. Ground level ozone like they talk about on the weather reports is actually a result of ultraviolet light reacting with ground level pollution and creating the ozone. When the ozone is created, it hangs around for about 15 minutes, then reverts back to O2 if it finds nothing to oxidize. Higher levels of ozone are an indicator of pollution and not the actual hazard itself. But I digress...

Using ozone in a hot tub sounds like a great idea. I'm at the beginning of my hot tub search and being familiar with ozone, I wanted to incorporate it into the water treatment aspect of the tub. Does anyone have experience using ozone in their tub? How do you like it? How much does it reduce the overall chemical usage for you?
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Likely the most common question
« Last post by Spatech_tuo on July 30, 2021, 01:03:52 pm »
One other question. Many of these have features I can add or chose between, such as, salt water tub, ozone, oxygen enriched, etc. Some of the things I have heard, but not sure on the facts or opinion, are;

Saltwater tubs are great for your skin, but bad for the hot tub in general. Diminishes life expectancy?
Ozone requires less chlorine for filtration, but is very dangerous? (this one did interest me, but curious on the danger)
Trillium jets last longer.

Anyone who isn't selling a tub that uses a salt generator will tell you to avoid them.
Anyone who is selling a tub that uses a salt generator will tell you that's what you need.
Anyone who isn't selling a tub that uses wood frames will tell you to avoid them.
Anyone who is selling a tub that uses wood frames will tell you that's what you need.
Anyone who isn't selling a tub that uses ozone will tell you to avoid them... and so on.

The common thread is that when shopping at a dealer, they'll tell you that what they have is what you want and if they don't have a feature you're interested in they'll tell you its not something you want.

Take it all with a grain of salt!
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