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Title: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Steve on August 28, 2005, 06:55:47 pm: Our resident looney tune has fallen off the wagon once more. His sites are back on me as they have been coutless times over the years. I figured Chas, Hotsprings in general and Cal Spa needed the break...

This is a word for word exchange on how he's going to sue me, blah, blah, blah... ;D

Author: Jim Gruver Arjuna (---.hlrn.qwest.net)
Date: 08-28-05 08:33

Steve; You are warning me. That is like really funny! You have the credibility of a piece of dirt, and you are warning me?

There is only several things wrong I have all the court records with my dismissal of my case. After two years of appeals, the judge finally got all the evidence in front of him. I had to hire private investigators and new lawyers and it is all over. There was no physical evidence, because it never happened. Isn't that funny, how the truth works.

I have no criminal record. I am a free citizen and I can vote and do Jury duty and all the rest.

In the mean time, if you continue to defame me or my wife, in any way, you are going to pay. I have been studying international law, and there are ways to have you face me in court, and to have your life ruined for real libel and slander. Not to mention that you will never get a job of any kind anywhere, in which there are women at work, You will be luck you work in a gas station on the graveyard shift.

You are so darn stupid, that there are no words for it, but let me give it a try. You cannot defame another man's wife over a silly discussion of hot tubs. No body can be that stupid, except you.

I have told you that I have had discussions on the subject of hot tubs with at least 300 spa professionals, and none of them would stoop that low.

Here are the words to describe you. This is all I could come up with on short order.

Idiot, moron, imbecile, mentally ill, fearful and stupid, illiterate, immoral, disgusting waste of human flesh.

You already lost one job because of your statements about me and Sandy, how many jobs are there in Canada for you. Can you push a broom and clean public toilets? I am going to tell you this just one time. If you don't issue a formal apology and swear to repentance, and swear to do something to make up for it and then DO IT, I am going to find each employer and all of them in the future and as soon as you start work, send them all of your writings.

I am also going to sue you, if you don't issue your sincere apology now for sure. I have the means to sue you.

I gave you some grace, by allowing you present employer to not have the email and posts from you in which you go crazy, and start libelous defamatory statements.

We have a good relationship with Vectra Bank, and still have an account with them. They have written off the debt and we are on to a new relationship.

The things that scare you, do not scare me, because I live my life according to God. Unlike you, I only speak the truth.

How can you be so stupid as to not know that insulting the mother of two boys, and the love of my life is not going to cause you harm. You have already lost one job. How stupid (driven by pride and ego) are you really? I guess you really do have fecal matter, for brains, because, you certainly have not shown otherwise.

I think that you are not aware of the laws of God. Let me give you a clue. "You reap what you sow." I have had my business grow and expand, because of all the hate from scum bags like you. There is no denying that you are just about the most illiterate and lacking in any intelligence or common sense, spa professional I have ever come across, and you are just plane fearful, egotistical, pompous and evil.

I can now sue you until you have nothing. You also place yourself in bad position with my children, who are now grown. I think they have grounds to sue you individually for you defamation of their mother.

All you have to do is a formal REAL apology. No back sliding, or saving your ego.

Let me tell you how to write it.

"I don't know what came over me to say such a horrible statement about Jim and Jim's wife. I am a real scum bag for doing it. It was a terribly dishonorable thing to do. I disgraced myself and my family by being such an horrible example of poor ethics and poor professionalism. I beg Jim and Sandy's forgiveness. I just wish there was something I could do to make it up. Just ask me, Jim, anything I can do to make up for being such a scum bag. Please, forgive me."

Until you make a statement that is exactly like that, I will keep sending all of your crap to your employers. They need to know what a scum bag they have working for them, just like Beachcomber now knows.

Is that clear. It wasn't magic or some unknown issue that you were looking for work a while back. Do you think that Beachcomber or Hydropool wants a loose cannon with fecal matter for brains? You are a mentally ill, TYPE A personality, idiot and a disgrace to the spa industry. I am taking this email and posting on the site along with your other nice posts that I have collected to sent to your employer.

After you apology, I don't ever want to see another post by you on any message forum, not on any subject.

James Gruver Arjuna

I know I'm not suppose to post anymore according to Jimmy but... ;)
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Steve on August 28, 2005, 07:02:18 pm: my response...

Very Christian response Jim! lol

Sorry Jim, it took me a while to read that as I had to continually pick myself up off of the floor from laughing so darn hard! LOL

When people are backed into a corner and have no other adult solutions, they turn to threats and that's all you have been doing for years. Empty, worthless threats. I have a "puddin" file dedicated to your lies and slander dating back 3 years.

I beg you to take me on and that way, I can personally watch you loose everything instead of sitting on the sidelines while Cal Spa does it. It makes me feel good knowing you are so scared and effected by my actions. I must really terrify you! I'm harmless unless provoked Jimmy and you are a pimple in the spa industry that has zero impact even on the dealers around you let alone me way up here! You're a toy to play with and your mental instability is amusing to many including me.

Here's just how stupid you are... do you really think those "600,000 hits" are for real? I'll fill ya in one day! LOL

This was THE BEST though... "After you apology, I don't ever want to see another post by you on any message forum, not on any subject." LOL! You have a GREAT sense of humor ol boy!

Here's how your next e-mail to me MUST be:

Dear Steve,

I am so very sorry I have been an idiot all of these years and it's only because I have no people skills or knowledge in the spa industry that I must pretend to seem larger than life. I have called women SLUTS on a spa forum and I have yet to apologize for that so how can I expect anything from anyone else? I am a worthless human being and beg your forgiveness. I know I've caused many people harm over the years and done unchristian like things while hiding behind the cross and I promise to one day become half the honorable man you are Steve. Please accept my deepest apology for for my inhumane actions on people and on spa forums in general. I promise to stop over charging these poor victims and get out of the spa business entirely if you forgive me.

Respectfully,

Jim Arjuna

I expect this to be completed within the next 24 hours please Jim.

Please tell me that don't really believe I was fired from Beachcomber? Please tell me you really don't think it was from any sort of communication YOU sent that it had ANYTHING to do with that! If you truly believe that, I feel so very sorry for you and your family. It's a joke and you'll pulling my leg right? Good one jimmy! I thought for a second you really believed that! I think you tried that same joke on Chas with telling him that it was YOU that prevented them form getting UL listed! That was a good one too!
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Spatech_tuo on August 28, 2005, 09:22:14 pm: Steve,
If Jim follows through and you get sent up the river let me know. I'll send a cake with a file in it (Sandy gave me the recipe).
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Chas on August 29, 2005, 02:07:52 am: Why do you guys pick on Jim? He's just a nice guy trying to do the best he can. I have never read a harsh word or threat from him - he is kind and compassionate to all.

He has room in his thinking for oposing opinions - unlike some who seem to think you must agree with them or else you are dumb or something.

NOT
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Chris_H on August 29, 2005, 10:37:30 am: I have pretty much stopped reading the crap on that site. He is an absolute virus. I was not around when he was previously banned on poolandspa, doc’s site, and this site, but I now understand why he was banned. It is unfortunate because he basically has free advertising on that board and is turning it into an unproductive forum. It is a shame. I hope he can be removed from posting on that site.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: stuart on August 29, 2005, 05:41:00 pm: Wow Steve,
Congratulations on achieving a new level of attention with JA!

It looks like he is making you as much of a threat to his crusade as HotSpring and CalSpa is!

I really wish that he would not elude to Christian ethics with such hostility, violence and threat of retaliation. I would hate to think that anyone would ever think Christianity could encompass such a spirit!

I do agree with him however about the "Reap what you sow" statement....Years of alienating everyone can give you a personality of superiority and ruthlessness like he demonstrates in his posts....
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Steve on August 29, 2005, 05:44:50 pm: Yeah, I agree Chris. Usually once a year now, we go it pretty hard and then it dies off.

I post on his site periodically, but those darn posts never seem to see the light of day. ;D

I'll play with him a bit longer and see if I can bring out the monster within. We've only seen a small glimps.

Thanks for the suggestion of the file tech... ;) I can only beg him to sue to me and he's threatened so often, I hardly notice anymore. My best friend is a business lawyer and he says that I should sue him for defamation of character and he would do it for free. I would drag that darn thing out so long, he'd be begging for food stamps! ;D

Not my style really...until provoked! ;D
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: spahappy on August 29, 2005, 10:52:30 pm: Steve I laughed so hard my guts hurt. I'm copying this one to take home for my hubby to read. Good job!!!
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: wmccall on August 30, 2005, 12:02:42 pm: When I see a post of his over 1 paragraph long, I can't make myself read it. I've had problems with attention span lately, and I think if I did read it I'd have another grandmal seizure.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: drewstar on August 30, 2005, 03:37:21 pm: I've read his stuff and find the whole thing very funny. It's like watching a train wreck ( if train wrecks were funny)

I hope he keeps posting there as I cannot think anyone who reads his stuff actaully belives it?
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: tootall on August 31, 2005, 09:32:17 pm: After you guys gave me the 411 on JA I found a forum where he posts most likely not for long ;D. I just need to know one thing does the state of Colorado know they have a missing Inmate from the prison for the mental ill? No offence to any people who do suffer from things like that.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: bootstuckinmud on September 01, 2005, 01:29:40 am: Hey folks im new here but i just cant believe the self rightous

BS that comes on his site He is literally derranged. JA honestly belives he is the be all end all authority.
I couldnt stop laughing when reading all of the posts by steve on his sight where does he find time to create his crap
when he in the chat rooms 20hrs a day

I really hope its not the end of this saga ;D
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Chas on September 02, 2005, 10:30:41 am: Well they have NOT banned him over at the other board, but they have gone back to delayed posting. This, as a rule, causes him to calm down and post much less inflamatory statements. Either that, or they are editing his input before putting it up.

The person I talked to at 'big fish productions' said that they are getting ready to switch to a software that allows banning. She did not say they would ban anyone.

Traffic sure dropped off now that they have the delay - did you notice?
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Steve on September 02, 2005, 11:15:01 am: It certainly changes the whole way the board functions. I agree that it's best to help eliminate the BS but unfortunately, the need for a babysitter does break up the interaction for normal posts regarding spas. It's tough to post a question and have it delayed days prior to even showing up then having the answer take the same amount of time in return. All of this for 1 question? Considering there's far more quailty forums on the net with realtime posting and no Mr. Gruver, I'm not sure why anyone would want to post there to begin with?

Steve
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Brewman on September 02, 2005, 11:46:28 am: I don't post over there, but I read the posts every few weeks. Mind boggling that with all his issues he still posts like usual, especially his ETL listing thing.
He's a case study in human behavoir, that's for sure.
Plus it's occasionally fun to watch him get caught in his rhetoric.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: TMJ on September 02, 2005, 12:01:47 pm: As a newbie, that was the first forum I found. I was very hesitant to post my opinion, or ask any questions. When I found this forum I was very guarded, but I have since found that this is a more relaxed atmosphere(sp). Thanks guys and gals :)
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Brewman on September 02, 2005, 12:51:05 pm: It's better here because truly obnoxious posters can get banned.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Chas on September 02, 2005, 02:03:44 pm: Hey that was an accident. Besides, they unbanned me later.
;)

Fun fun -

Welcome! This IS a much better board. The moderator has wings, but other than that it's a good mix of owners, dealers and technicians who will help if they can.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: spaman-- on September 02, 2005, 03:08:51 pm: I was only banned for a week and it was not for being obnoxiuos!!!!!!LOL

I HAVE COME TO FIND THAT THIS IS A GOOD FORUM ALSO!!!!!!! EVEN THOUGH I GET BEAT UP ALOT HERE!!!LOL ;D
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Brewman on September 02, 2005, 03:35:13 pm: I didn't mean youse guyz, I mean those who have banned and remain banned.
I know our buddy has been banned at least a couple times. Tries as he does with his fake id's, he just can't keep his true personality hidden long. Spotting his aliases on this board is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Chas on September 02, 2005, 07:24:11 pm: I knew that.... .... ....

;)
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Spatech_tuo on September 02, 2005, 10:07:30 pm: Quote

I HAVE COME TO FIND THAT THIS IS A GOOD FORUM ALSO!!!!!!! EVEN THOUGH I GET BEAT UP ALOT HERE!!!LOL ;D

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[glb][glb][size=12]POW!!!![/size] [/glb]
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[glb] [glb][size=9]BIFF!!!![/size] [/glb] [/glb]
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Brewman on September 02, 2005, 10:36:51 pm: You need to change your avatar from Superman to Batman if you want to use the sound effects of punching.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Steve on September 03, 2005, 12:47:45 pm: LMAO!

Hey spaman...I think Spatech just called you "biff"! :o

Steve
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: spaman-- on September 03, 2005, 01:10:22 pm: ouch Spatech!!!! Dang!LOL
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Spatech_tuo on September 04, 2005, 12:06:27 am: Quote
ouch Spatech!!!! Dang!LOL

I just needed to keep you in line!!
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: wmccall on September 05, 2005, 11:17:12 am: Well, rumor has it the suit against HIM by Cal Spas is moving forward and expected to go 5 weeks. I noticed JA's wife is filling his site with cutsie pictures and talking about how big he is to avoid being baited by all of you. Perhaps his lawyer has told him to back down for awhile.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: autoplay on September 05, 2005, 12:20:09 pm: I believe you're right Bill lol.

Can't wait for his explanation of ETL..... and how he handles it AFTER it's ruled in a court of law.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Brewman on September 05, 2005, 03:01:12 pm: Wonder where he's getting the $$$ to pay his lawyer.
Getting dragged into court like that has got to cost.

Wouldn't suprise me one bit if he's being his own lawyer.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Bubbles on September 05, 2005, 03:34:21 pm: An interesting side note here...

In speaking to a lawyer friend with connections in CA, he informed me that Jim had a date in court on the 25th of Sept. for his slander charge and was a no show! ??? That sort of stuff isn't taken lightly by the courts and it doesn't look good for Jim at this point.
There's now a judgment against him for a cool 1 million. :'( ;D The plot thickens and he's backed himself into a corner. It looks like a case of bankruptcy in inevitable for Jim as they're going after everything he owns. Shouldn’t be long now.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: wmccall on September 05, 2005, 04:35:03 pm: Quote
An interesting side note here...

In speaking to a lawyer friend with connections in CA, he informed me that Jim had a date in court on the 25th of Sept. for his slander charge and was a no show! ??? That sort of stuff isn't taken lightly by the courts and it doesn't look good for Jim at this point.
There's now a judgment against him for a cool 1 million. :'( ;D The plot thickens and he's backed himself into a corner. It looks like a case of bankruptcy in inevitable for Jim as they're going after everything he owns. Shouldn’t be long now.

I've heard similar reports so maybe that confimrs it. ;) Does anyone know what court this was? I was hoping to find some records online.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Chas on September 05, 2005, 04:50:36 pm: All of this over a box of hot water. No, in fact it's worse than that: all of this over an OPINION about a box of hot water.

I just don't get it. If Jim took care of the ETL listing questions, and turned the selling or at least the posting over to somebody who could control themselves, he might very well have seen his company grow. THAT, in my opinion, would have been the only way to be taken seriously. The second you start outselling the big boys, you have proven your point.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Brewman on September 05, 2005, 05:13:56 pm: Quote
An interesting side note here...

In speaking to a lawyer friend with connections in CA, he informed me that Jim had a date in court on the 25th of Sept. for his slander charge and was a no show! ??? That sort of stuff isn't taken lightly by the courts and it doesn't look good for Jim at this point.
There's now a judgment against him for a cool 1 million. :'( ;D The plot thickens and he's backed himself into a corner. It looks like a case of bankruptcy in inevitable for Jim as they're going after everything he owns. Shouldn’t be long now.

Did you mean August 25th, or did he miss a court date last September?
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Brewman on September 05, 2005, 05:22:05 pm: Quote
All of this over a box of hot water. No, in fact it's worse than that: all of this over an OPINION about a box of hot water.

I just don't get it. If Jim took care of the ETL listing questions, and turned the selling or at least the posting over to somebody who could control themselves, he might very well have seen his company grow. THAT, in my opinion, would have been the only way to be taken seriously. The second you start outselling the big boys, you have proven your point.

I think his business model is flawed- alway has been. Totally ignoring for a second his lunatic rantings, which are enough to scare me from ever giving him a dime, let alone buying something this expensive, in order to succeed he'd have to offer something of value over and above what is available locally. He doesn't from what I saw when I was shopping.

His spas are nothing out of the ordinary- just middle of the road. Despite his claims to the contrary.
They aren't even ETL or UL Listed, and they cost as much or more than a premium spa bought from a local dealer.

He offers nothing more than what is already available- except doing business with him has extra risks. Who's going to support his warranty if he goes under? Phoenix?
I guess his generic spas may have some advantage if he goes out, if they are as generic as he claims, parts and service should be easy to find- but those poor souls will now have to pay for the parts and labor.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Bubbles on September 05, 2005, 06:17:43 pm: Yes Brewman I meant August 25. Sorry.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: autoplay on September 05, 2005, 07:20:32 pm: Sandy was claiming 75,000. Now I hear it's a million?

Any links?
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: cappykat on September 16, 2005, 03:47:59 pm: I don't usually read the general BS, but happened to see this topic today. Please fill me in with the "short version" story. What's this all about?
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Spatech_tuo on September 16, 2005, 04:32:26 pm: Quote
I don't usually read the general BS, but happened to see this topic today. Please fill me in with the "short version" story. What's this all about?

Look at the Sept 5th posting by Bubbles on pg 2 of this topic. I've seen it elsewhere as well but at this point it remains to be seen as to how factual it is. It indicates that JA may have gone too far and may be too close to the waterfall to paddle to safety. We shall see.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: cappykat on September 16, 2005, 05:00:15 pm: Yes, I read what bubbles wrote, but what/whom did JA slander and who brought a case against him?
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Spatech_tuo on September 16, 2005, 05:06:20 pm: Quote
Yes, I read what bubbles wrote, but what/whom did JA slander and who brought a case against him?

He has been slandering Cal Spas for years (along with Hot Springs, D1, etc.). I'm not sure if it was any single incident that put it over the top. I thought it simply was Cal Spas just had enough and hauled him into court. Maybe someone knows more specifics.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: stuart on September 17, 2005, 02:40:03 am: If anyone has details to this court case please PM me...I would love to know more.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Tman122 on September 17, 2005, 06:43:01 am: I love diggin in to him. Controversy makes life interesting, his true side seems to come out when I try and exchange with him. I try and be nice and state only my opinion and also clarify that his (which he seems to think is not an opinion) And all heck usualy breaks loose.

I love it!!!!
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: wmccall on September 17, 2005, 02:04:34 pm: Quote

Maybe someone knows more specifics.

Someone inside Cal spas told me that perhaps in 5 week we would know more, implying her was temporarily being hushed on corporate level

To quote Leon Askin, "I know nothing!" and furthermore,

ftp://http://www.buyersmls.com/americantv/hogan3.wav
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Wisoki on September 17, 2005, 05:06:18 pm: I have to admit, the most recent photo posted by Sandy is very pretty, including the two young ladies. I did post this message though, we'll see if it makes it.....Yeah, I remember watching many beautiful sun sets from Littleton then later from Silverthorne/Dillon area. The one thing I remember most is how relaxing it was to just sit there and watch the sun disapear behind the continental divide. Jim, may I suggest you spend more time sitting on your porch looking at sun sets and less time trying to convince everyone that the whole world is crazy and you are the only sane one.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: autoplay on September 19, 2005, 12:18:49 am: Think his views are limited....we'll see with my latest posting on his site lol. Being very brief and short with my questions/statements on his board.

So far,I conclude he is spiritual,but with a limited understanding,other than what he was brainwashed with by someone/something else. Beliefs not a bad thing,but he appears limited....and doesn't seem to be open to the obvious.

I'll start a new thread lol.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Brewman on September 19, 2005, 08:02:13 am: He may want us to think he's spiritual, but he sure doesn't act like it very often. He goes on about being kind, and honoring whatever his god is, then blasts out at anyone who challenges him. He is incapable of rational debate. He resorts to calling people ignorant or stupid when they say things not in his script. Doesn't sound much like christian behavior to me.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: stuart on September 19, 2005, 10:40:34 am: Quote
He may want us to think he's spiritual, but he sure doesn't act like it very often. He goes on about being kind, and honoring whatever his god is, then blasts out at anyone who challenges him. He is incapable of rational debate. He resorts to calling people ignorant or stupid when they say things not in his script. Doesn't sound much like christian behavior to me.

I agree...He is spiritual to the point that it gets him attention or the ability to pull the wool over someone’s eyes and then he drops the facade
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Chris_H on September 20, 2005, 09:13:28 am: Have any of you guys been on PACER and read the documents relating the case against the Spa Specialist and Cal Spas?

One of the legal documents states that he tried to represent himself, which is always a good choice. One other document stated that he didn’t show up for one of the proceedings if I read it correctly. The guy is absolutely amazing.

Edited to state: I did not read the previous pages that said that he did not show up to court. He is one stupid bugger.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Chris_H on September 20, 2005, 09:20:39 am: Bill,

PACER is a website that you can sign up for that has every legal document pretty much ever.

Want to know if one of your bosses or competitors ever declared bankruptcy? It is there.

Want to know if a company you want to buy a spa from has ever been sued? It is there.

Want to know the detail behind Cal Spas versus the Spa Specialist? It is there.

This is the site: http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/

It costs 7cents per viewed page.

Chris
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Brewman on September 20, 2005, 09:45:52 am: If I read correctly, the billing for viewing the pages is only sent out once the total is $10, so unless this goes on for over 142 pages or so, would there even be a cost, assuming that's all you ever read on pacer?
Or did I mis-understand their billing policy?
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Chris_H on September 20, 2005, 09:51:56 am: Quote
If I read correctly, the billing for viewing the pages is only sent out once the total is $10, so unless this goes on for over 142 pages or so, would there even be a cost, assuming that's all you ever read on pacer?
Or did I mis-understand their billing policy?

No, I believe they still do a quarterly billing even if it is less than $10 bucks.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Spatech_tuo on September 20, 2005, 11:12:45 am: Quote
so unless this goes on for over 142 pages or so...

All that has to happen is for Jim to make ONE statement and his response will go beyond 142 pages as we've seen from his ramblings. Can you imagine the response if they say "Please state your name."
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Chris_H on September 22, 2005, 08:48:20 am: A little rant of the day...

My favorite thing is when I see the Spa Specialist’s delivery truck with spas to be delivered and the spa wrapping is all mangled and looks like it went through a tornado.

You also will see on spa on its side standing up and another flat. Why not keep them all flat?

I feel so bad for the people that purchase from him.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: East_TX_Spa on September 22, 2005, 12:02:20 pm: (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/pic00.jpg)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/pic05.jpg)

::)

Terminator
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: stuart on September 22, 2005, 01:03:12 pm: So looking at the spa with the side panels off in the picture I have a question....

Does the main trunk line running along the bottom of the cabinet near to the outside panel look like a freeze waiting to happen to anyone but me?
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Brewman on September 22, 2005, 04:21:48 pm: Impossible. That spa has the SUPER DAYT 400 insulation pack. The heat recovered from the built in flux capacitor will prevent the spa from ever freezing.
Just top off the plutonium every few thousand years, and you're good to go.

That and never sell this one above the Mason Dixon line will prevent freezing.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: drewstar on September 23, 2005, 10:18:12 am: For someone who thinks foam is a horrible way to insulate, he sure does use a lot of it.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: stuart on September 23, 2005, 10:39:21 am: The other thing is that it doesn't seem as it the manifold is supported in any way other than the hoses going up to the jets...? So what it looks like is that trunk line with the manifold is simply in there flopping....Can you say leak?
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Brewman on September 23, 2005, 10:43:19 am: Thus illustrating the true beauty of the H***n spa.
No pesky insulation in the way- that manifold is just sitting there readily accessible for when the inevitable leaks from his unsupported pluming appear.
Look at all the room under there.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: drewstar on September 23, 2005, 10:51:33 am: One of my favorite pics is the one right on his home page.
It shows a brunette sitting in one of his tubs.

The tub is full of foam.

You'd think from the worlds greatest authortity on spas would not have a pic showing his spa filled with foam. I guess he just overlooked it and didn't notice it.
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: autoplay on September 23, 2005, 12:21:25 pm: I thought the exact same thing Drewstar,when I saw it too. Why tell someone the obvious,especially when that person is convinced his beliefs are correct,and the only beliefs that matter? grin

Think he uses the foam on top of the water as a selling tactic. It's part of the DAIT insulation,and saves the customer hundreds of dollars a month on their electric bill.

Knowing Jim,he offers his customers a product that increases foam,at a reduced cost to the customer.

Super Duper Foamer,works so well,that you don't need to cover your spa,etc etc
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: Spatech_tuo on September 23, 2005, 12:47:34 pm: HELLO, the excessive foam in the water helps reduce heat loss through the top of the spa. That is what constitutes the new DAIT Level XXIV-2. The next version will come with a plastic bag you put over the entire spa when not in use, only a $299 option ($399 for those in Hawaii and Scotland).
Title: Re: PURE ENTERTAINMENT OF JA
Post by: drewstar on September 23, 2005, 12:56:39 pm: Well from the looks of that picture, Jim does indeed sell "Full Foam" tubs. ;D