Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: actusreus on September 16, 2017, 05:37:03 pm
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Hey all,
So it's been a few months, but I'm narrowed down to three:
Marquis Show, with the aluminum top, which I really like, for $12,500.00.
Marquis Vector 21 V94L. It has the same top, one lounger. You lose a pump, the hot zones, a lounger, and the controls are a little clunky imo. Still a solid tub. $9,800.00
The Bullfrog A series. This comes in right between the two tubs above. It's floor model, in a color I don't love, and has two loungers. But it has some cool features. They're asking 11,900, but he offered it for $10,400 + -2% for cash.
Any opinions?
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I have a 94L I love it but got it much less than you were quoted 7500. Also I looked at the Bullfrog but was quoted much higher than you were quoted 14k.
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Show price is really good. I sold one on Friday for $2500 more. Vector price is what I sell at give or take a couple hundred bucks. Conine got a absolute steal. That's almost like a I need rent money price lol or this tub has been sitting here forever and I just want to dump it price
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On the show, they have a 2016 floor model that's had water in it, went to the fair, etc., that has the ultimate package on it, i.e., scent infusion, stereo, fountains, extra lighting, etc. They asked 13500 for that, and 12,800 on the brand new one without the ultimate package. Two questions: Is the ultimate package worth the extra 700? Is the show really 3k better than the Vector?
I also thought the Vector price he got was phenomenal. Thought I was getting jerked around. Hopefully not.
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Hi I have owned a Bullfrog R6L and currently own a Marquis Spirit. You can't go wrong with either one. IMO you will get better therapy for your legs and feet in the Show. I would recommend to wet test and see which one feels best for you and form your own opinion.
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On the show, they have a 2016 floor model that's had water in it, went to the fair, etc., that has the ultimate package on it, i.e., scent infusion, stereo, fountains, extra lighting, etc. They asked 13500 for that, and 12,800 on the brand new one without the ultimate package. Two questions: Is the ultimate package worth the extra 700? Is the show really 3k better than the Vector?
I also thought the Vector price he got was phenomenal. Thought I was getting jerked around. Hopefully not.
Ultimate you get the nicer step, audio, cover lift, aroma therapy, and some nice towels. Just the audio alone is more then $700
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Wet test the show. Its the most powerful tub I have been in. That's the tub I wanted for my house but my wife like the curved design of the resort so that's what I own.
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I really like them all. The only thing I'm worried about in the Show, besides the price obviously, is the fact that it only comes with 2 loungers. I've got 4 kids, and that kind of removes some seating options. If it's just me and 4 kids, out of those 3 I mentioned, does that change anyone's opinion?
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I really like them all. The only thing I'm worried about in the Show, besides the price obviously, is the fact that it only comes with 2 loungers. I've got 4 kids, and that kind of removes some seating options. If it's just me and 4 kids, out of those 3 I mentioned, does that change anyone's opinion?
Yes. I would probably eliminate the show then. Check out the euphoria or Vector 94 non lounge. Or do you want lounge?
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I do want one lounge, yes. That's why I was thinking the Vector 94L. There was one in between the show and the Vector. It was nicer looking, had some of the hot zones, and he had it for 11800 with the smart top, or whatever. I like it better, but it seems like the show for only 700 more gave you a whole bunch more.
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Probably the reward. I would wet test the Vector and the bullfrog and see which one you like best. Both good tubs. Obviously I'm a Marquis dealer (as well as caldera and Nordic) but both are solid brands with good reputations.
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The one in between that he showed me is called the Epic. His quote: "It's a 2017, never had water in it, and has the smartop vanish, which has the extra insulation on the cover and the deco cover. Cash price is 11,800, or 11,500 with just the standard smartop." Your opinion on that tub and the price? As opposed to the Vector and Show?
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The show price is really low especially considering it is a ultimate version and has a smart top. Epic price is good too with a smart top. If it's new how much would it be without the smart top and with standard cover and lift. Those smart tops add 1500-2000 to the price of the tub. With lift and step I'm in the the same price point he is in.
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Remember, he wants 13600 for the show with the ultimate package, and it's last year's floor model.
The brand new show would be 12700, but without the ultimate package.
The epic is 11800 with the smart top with the deco cover. He says the best top you can get.
Then there's the vector at 9700, still with the smart top.
If you were buying one of those, as a marquis dealer, which one would you get?
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Whichever one fit my families needs the best. The show ultimate is best bang for buck but the other 2 are priced more then fair
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Thank-you all for the advice. Because I overthink these things, I had to go to a nearby town and look at one more. It's the Aria by Hot Springs. It's 11,500. The guy sure talked it up. Anyone know how it compares to the other ones I mentioned?
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Great hot tub by a great manufacturer. That's right about where I am when not having to finance the spa. Hot Spring High Life collection compares well with Marquis Signature.
You really need to wet test these spas. The Show was one of the few Marquis I never saw or sat in when I was a dealer so I cannot tell you how it sits. I am now Hot Springs and Caldera. I can honestly say there are things I like about each brand. I like the moto-massage jet in Hot Spring. I like the HK40 jets in Marquis when placed hear the upper back and shoulders. I was less of a fan when they were placed near the lower back, too much power for me unless turned down. There are things that I think Hot Spring does better than Marquis, but remember that each dealer you visit sells the best brand of spas ;D. You are looking at premium quality spas, so how the spa feels to you and how comfortable you feel with the dealer should be deciding factors.
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I liked the corner seat in the Aria, but going directly from the Artesian to a hot spring to try the Moto massage, I was unimpressed and went straight back to the Artesian. Definitely wet test as I'm sure plenty of people like the feel. For the Marquis Epic, I loved the tower geyser, and the HK40'S were powerful but they didn't quite hit me where/how I wanted.
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Hey everyone. So, update, I splurged, spent a bunch more than I intended, and bought the Marquis Show. It's blue, in an ash shell. Love the look. Went in yesterday, and we broke it in today. Felt great. The jets are great, and I really like their individual controls. One question, the heating seems pretty weak. It's in the 30's today (October in Idaho), and it simply would not heat when we were out and in it. It kept alternating between saying nothing, saying "heat waiting," and "heating." In the hour we were out there, although we had it set to reach 104 F, it eventually dropped to 97 F. I couldn't find "heat waiting" in the manual. Any idea what's going on there?
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I can't help with the heating issue, but congrats! That's an awesome hot tub 8) Stick around and share your experience.
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Never heard of heat waiting on a Marquis. Unless something has changed in the last 6 months you have either Ready Mode or Rest Mode. Ready mode means it would keep the temperature at whatever you set it for. Rest mode would only heat during the filtration cycles, which need to be adjusted. Marquis was only programmed to run 1 hour twice a day, which is not enough.
I never sold or saw a Show before, but since that spa has 3 jet pumps, I wonder if the heater shuts off when all 3 pumps are running. That could explain the heat loss because if the spa was in Ready mode and the heater running, it really shouldn't lose more than a degree or two.
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You can't really go wrong with any of those 3 models. They're about the best 3 therapy spas that Marquis offers. If you're getting the SmartTop on each spa, those are all really good prices because the SmartTop is a $1500-2000 option at most places like hottubguy said. I would decide on the model based on how many people will be using the spa. In my years of experience, most people think they're going to have huge groups in the hot tub and most of the time it just ends up being 2 at a time, or maybe up to 4 at a time.
Show will seat 5
Epic will seat 5-6
V94L will seat 6-7
Marquis is a great hot tub, good luck in your search. Let us know what you end up with.
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Congrats you your new Show! I have a Marquis too, Spirit. I have seen the "Heat Waiting" and then it immediately changes to "Heating". I'm assumed it meant that the heater was about to be initiated. I do not see it alternating between the two. Perhaps Castletonia is correct that it shuts off when all 3 pumps are running. I wouldn't seen that in mine as it only has one 1 pump and it's a much smaller spa. I also do not heat it up to 104 as that is too hot for me. I do live in a cold climate (MN) however it is out of the elements, in a garage. Perhaps Markee or Hottubguy can confirm about the heater and the 3 pumps running.
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Even with all three pumps running the heater should be on. I have seen heat waiting but it’s usually just for a minute then it switches to heating.
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Call me crazy, but 3 main pumps running and the heater still on? I don't remember if the original Jacuzzi J-380 3 pump spa did that, but then it had the circ pump.
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Call me crazy, but 3 main pumps running and the heater still on? I don't remember if the original Jacuzzi J-380 3 pump spa did that, but then it had the circ pump.
The show does. The only other tub I sell with 3 pumps doesn’t on the 50 amp option but if you wire it 70 mps then that does as well
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Congrats on The Show, awesome spa! It should run all 3 pumps and the heater at the same time as far as I know. What temperature did you start at when you were trying to get to 104? In 30 degree weather it will have a hard time gaining temperature with the cover off, but should be able to come close to maintaining the temperature you started at. Was the spa hooked up at the dealer before you bought it? There is a 30amp setting that it could have possibly switched in to if the dealer was running it on a smaller breaker, but I doubt they would have done that.