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« Last post by Davekro on Today at 03:22:36 am »
@MichaelHollywood
When I got my new 2023 Bullfrog hot tub delivered 2/2/24, I set it up as a Bromine tub. I did all the right things and was very particular about keeping the bromine levels in range. But my wife had a strong skin sensitivity issue to the bromine. After an hour or so, she started getting red ski, by bedtime she had a rash and bumps on her torso. Th eitching kept her awake all night. It took a few days to go away. I did another AHH!Some purge, drained and refilled the tub, and set it up as a chlorine tub. Now my wife has ZERO skin sensitivity in our chlorine tub, even if the FC is a ppm or two above the recommended range.
So bottom line, I'd say that Bromine would cause more, not less skin irritation issues. I'd say you may have some bad stuff hiding in your plumbing as CanadianSpaTech suggests (he knows his stuff!).
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« Last post by Davekro on Today at 03:01:00 am »
Why not go straight to Bullfrog?
Bullfrog Spas Contact Information
7017 West 11800 South, Herriman, UT 84096, United States of America
Customer Support: +1 (801) 307-3676
Didn't you buy a floor model/demo unit? If so, the dealer is probably responsible for the wrong cover being included. If it's a new order from Bullfrog, I would call them then get with your dealer with their response.
Before actually purchasing the Bullfrog hot tub I had emailed a few questions to Bullfrog corporate via their website. I also called a few times and left messages. I never received any responses to any inquiries. It did not occur to me that again contacting Bullfrog would yield any different result. My dealer is a brand Bullfrog dealer. He was very responsive to my calls and email questions before I committed and paid cash for the tub. Literally since that day (Sat. 1/6/24), he has not returned numerous calls. When I do get a hold of him on the phone, he says he'll check on 'X' (which he had been asked about, emailed about and follow up emailed about repeatedly!) and get back to me. He - never - does . I did email my dealer 4/9/24 the same pics I posted here asking if I got the wrong cover. No reply to date. I still love the Bullfrog A6L Select hot tub I got. He promised at the time of my (actual green) cash in full purchase, 1/6/24, a cover lifter. When I asked if he could get me the newest Covermate model (Zero) he said no problem, any lifter I wanted. Initially he said he could deliver the following week of 1/8/24. Then silence for two weeks. I knew he was just starting up doing the Costco Bullfrog Road show weekly for several weeks, so I cut him some slack at first. But after being ghosted for two weeks with no replies to emails or VM’s, thinking I might have been scammed, on 1/19/24 I drove an hour to a sister store where the owner of their small family chain of three stores was based at. The owner told me that the salesman, his stepson BTW, should never have told me it could be delivered that soon. He also said he was not good at getting back to customers (no kidding!) The owner promised a delivery date 1 1/2 weeks from then on 11/30/24. I said OK. I then decided to 'run in to my salesman' at a Costco he was doing a roadshow at. I asked since he had ghosted me for the two weeks -and- the delivery was much delayed from his original promise, would he be willing to throw in a Gecko in.Touch 2 Internet Kit. He said he would do that. The morning of the delivery, I got a call that the delivery needed to be moved out three days to 2/2/24 because their air bag popped. I’m not happy, but, OK, stuff happens. At delivery, no cover lifter “it’s on back order”. He again confirms he is ok throwing in the Gecko Internet Kit for my trouble. Fast forward to two months to 4/4/23 when I called and got the salesman. I asked when the cover lifter and internet kit were coming in. He said the Leisure Time website would not let him order the lifter, so I quickly go to the website, select the Zero to order, click submit, and it not only takes my order but processes it. Uh, ok, I was expecting the site to ask for my payment info, but for some reason, the site had my card info and just processed the order. Well, at least I knew I had a cover actually coming and it arrived 5 days later. The salesman agreed to reimburse me, but surprise, not word from him on that yet. Now, back to still not knowing if 1) I got a cover for an X Series, not an A Series tub or 2) Bullfrog uses the same cover for the X series, which has 8” radius corners (that match the cover I got), and also for the more expensive A Series hot tubs that have 4” radius corners. Since my new Zero cover lifter is unique in that it mounts to the side of the bottom half of the cover on each side with 4 screws going through the cover’s polyester cover material (and through the vapor barrier into the foam), I am holding off on mounting my new lifter, in case I need to give this cover back and get one that fits my A6L Select hot tub’s corners properly. I feel I have been more than patient in waiting, getting zero responses repeatedly, and simply asking for a$200 add on product for my trouble. Let me know if you feel I have been over reacting or expecting too much in this transaction.
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« Last post by cranbiz on April 12, 2024, 11:44:49 am »
Why not go straight to Bullfrog?
Bullfrog Spas Contact Information
7017 West 11800 South, Herriman, UT 84096, United States of America
Customer Support: +1 (801) 307-3676
Didn't you buy a floor model/demo unit? If so, the dealer is probably responsible for the wrong cover being included. If it's a new order from Bullfrog, I would call them then get with your dealer with their response.
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« Last post by Davekro on April 09, 2024, 11:47:18 pm »
1)Are your 2023 A Series Bullfrog Branded covers short on the corners so that the skirt is spread at the corner, exposing the acrylic the same way as my posted pictures? 2)** I just noticed that the X6L has the same 7’4” x 6’8” dimensions, and the pics on the Bullfrog website show that the X6L’s corners have a much larger 8” radius than the A6L’s 4” radius corners. If Bullfrog uses one cover for both the A & X Series, the more expensive A Series gets a poor fit at the corners.  / What the  ? 3)Do all Bullfrog brand covers for the 2023 A Series fit this way? It seems like an extremely obvious design error, unless Bullfrog just want to have one less cover to stock and make the more expensive A Series hot tub have an ill design fit on their covers. In 2022, all A Series Spas had 8” radius corners. The new 2023 A series design changed to 4” radius corners… But Bullfrog didn’t revise the 2023 A Series COVERS to match the newly designed tubs???
4)Is there only one cover for A series and X Series 2023 Bullfrog hot tubs, and that has the larger 8” radius? Bullfrog has a page showing the cover dimensions for 2023 to present and 2013 – 2022 and prior years. But I have noticed discrepancies between their website and the 2023 brochure, so I don’t put much stock in their spec saying that for 2023 all X & A Series covers have a 4” radius, especially when the cover I got with my A6L Series Select (mfg’d Oct. 2023) came with a cover with 8” radiuses!
This has bugged me for the two months I have had the tub, but my dealer is brand new -and- never returns calls, so I had not yet wasted my time asking him. I just received my Covermate Zero cover lifter, which I ordered myself, after not receiving it from my dealer after waiting for two months. The new Zero model requires drilling holes into the cover, so I want to be sure mine is not an anomaly, that this is the way ALL 2023 Bullfrog branded A Series covers are made, before I poke holes in my cover and would have a very hard time trying to swap it for another cover (if there is a 4” radius cover at all. /) ** After researching for this post, I just DID email my dealer with pics to see there IS a 4” radius cover and if he gave me the wrong cover. On my 2023 A6L Select (310 Gal.) Bullfrog hot tub, the Bullfrog brand cover that I was given has a 8" radius at the corners. The radius of the corners of the hot tub are 4". This causes the cover’s corners to be short of the hot tubs actual acrylic shell’s corners by 2” at each corner. In the attached pictures, the outer edges on all four of the Bullfrog cover’s sides, are aligned evenly with the edges of the hot tub. The length and width are even with the long (7'4") and shorter (6'8") spa dimensions. Thanks for any feedback. I don't trust my dealer's response, if he even gives me one.  Cover LR corner by Dave Kroske, on Flickr  Cover LF corner by Dave Kroske, on Flickr  Cover RF corner by Dave Kroske, on Flickr  Cover RR corner by Dave Kroske, on Flickr A6L with 4" Radius corners: A6L Image by Dave Kroske, on Flickr X6L with 8" Radius corners: X6L Image by Dave Kroske, on Flickr
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« Last post by cranbiz on April 09, 2024, 09:55:46 am »
Very nice.
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« Last post by Davekro on April 09, 2024, 12:11:38 am »
We started off with a challenge, in that my wife had strong skin sensitivity to Bromine. It took a while to be convinced that switching to chlorine would get rid of her skin sensitivity issue. It sure did! Woo Hoo, now she can enjoy it too. That was a big scare for a while. Anyway, here are the pictures. We have been without a coverlifter, but our Covermate Zero is due to arrive tomorrow! Yea! Our Bullfrog A6L Select w/o jets on-1  Bullfrog A6L no jets-1 by Dave Kroske, on Flickr Our Bullfrog A6L Select w/o jets on-2  Bullfrog A6L no jets-2 by Dave Kroske, on Flickr Our Bullfrog A6L Select with jets On-1  Bullfrog A6L jets on-1 by Dave Kroske, on Flickr Our Bullfrog A6L Select with jets On-2  Bullfrog A6L jets on-2 by Dave Kroske, on Flickr Initially, I had the hot tub oriented turned 180º, so the (eventual) coverlifter would fold the cover towards the fence, not blocking the views in the other three directions. But my wife wanted privacy from our deck side of the tub because the neighbor on opposite (not fence side) has dementia and gawks. So when I drained the tub to change from Bromine to Chlorine, I rotated the tub 180º, so the cover would stand up on that side. We miss a little bit of view north over the water, but not worth her creeped out factor, so the early water drain/refill had a good second purpose to spin the tub! 
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« Last post by Buzzard bait on April 07, 2024, 03:17:27 pm »
I did a cursory look. In a tough place to troubleshoot. One side not available. I’ll look a little closer to see if I can find anything.
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« Last post by cranbiz on April 04, 2024, 05:15:03 pm »
Well, that is for the convenience of the dealers tech. Water leaks can be tricky especially in a full foam tub. I'm sure they want to charge you for removing and reinstalling the tub as well as the cost to fix it.
Have you got any idea where it's leaking from? I would open it up and pull the panels to look for the leak. It could be a jet, it could be a line in the tub, pump, etc. If you can find the source, it might be an easy fix.
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« Last post by Buzzard bait on April 04, 2024, 02:57:17 pm »
10 year old Grandee has a slow leak. Loses about 2-3” of water a week. Dealer said they would have to take it into the shop. Anyone with experience with this?
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While price is a significant factor, especially with such substantial differences, considering the experience and reputation of the dealer is wise. It's crucial to weigh the potential savings against the assurance of reliable service and support over the warranty period. Given Bullfrog's reputation for quality, saving $2,000 to $3,000 might be reasonable, but a larger discount of $5,000 or 30% could warrant taking a chance. Ultimately, ensuring service availability beyond the warranty is essential for long-term peace of mind.
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