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Campsalot:
OK, us hot tubbers are a weird bunch aren't we?
Bonnibelle, your response was so very elegant!   Yes, I send you ton's of Fleischkukle!  (It's a ethnic German treat of fried bread stuffed with spiced meat)  Good stuff and you will find a lot of here in good old North Dakota.
That being said, I do wish you watch the video.  Should you watch it you will see that the earth is simply passing through another period as it has done in it's past of heating.
Yes, mankind has effected planet Earth!  No, Global Warming is not one of those effects.  Yes, we can alter things like the normal drainage of river basins etc however, we cannot alter a climate.  My point in posting this was to have everyone look at this for what it is a; "we need money to fund this continued scare tactic on the human race" industry.  Again, please watch the video!

tommy tunes:

--- Quote ---If I had my "Powers of Deletion", Tommy, I would be obligated to delete your reference to "ho s". ::).and you said it 2X! :o No matter that those hos existed long before Imus's hos!   ;D ;D Maybe they will be renamed Hahas
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I'm laughing very hard ATM! ;D "Ho-Ho Chowder" is a joke from our old apartment my friend and I had.  His girlfriend (now his wife) was a lover of Hostess and Drakes products.  Ho-Ho's are a snack cake thing made by one of them.  One Sunday afternoon we're all sitting around, she makes the "I'm hungry" statement.  He says we have plenty of food, go make something.  She says she does not want anything we have on hand.  He comes back with "Sorry dear, but we're all out of Ho-Ho Chowder at the moment."  ;D ;D ;D

Bonibelle:
I knew what you were talking about, Tommy, Drakes makes Ho hos and guess what?
They are celebrating their 40th anniversary this year...shhhh don't tell Al Sharpton!!. :-?

D.P. Roberts:

--- Quote ---With all due respect to Tman and DP Roberts, I think a generation is usually considered to be 15-40 years -- matching the human reproductive span.  I saw something once that defined an average generation as 22 years.  Tman, think of a single family with a 80 year old grandmother.  If every one has kids by the age of 20, there could be 5 generations alive at once.   DP, I'm wondering if your 10 year number comes from the groups demographers identify as having common experiences (Baby Boom, Gen X, etc).  While called "generations", they may be a subpart of a whole.

Regardless of your definition of generation, the current focus of global warming discussion is whether changes that are currently observed may have great impact before the end of this century -- not 10-15 generations.
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Yeah, either way we're talking about semantics here. I can see the 20 year idea, and that's traditionally the case. A lot of sociologists use shorter lengths of time when a "generation" is linked to an event that precipitates it. For example, the "Baby Boomers" were born shortly after WWII, but it would be hard to call people born in 1965 "Baby Boomers." So, that generation is only 10 years long, or less. Anyway, at longest it's one "human reproductive span" or less, not a human life span.

But I digress. Speaking of digressions, I think the whole "Global Warming" debate is a digression in itself. The debate seems to center on whether humans are causing Global Warming, not whether it's actually happening. Let's just concede, temporarily, that it's all a natural phenomenon, and that eventually the earth will somehow return to what it was a hundred years ago.

I the meantime, lots of really horrible things will happen. For example, the entire subcontinet of India and a large chunk of Southeast Asia depend on runoff from the glaciers in the Himalayas for water. What happens when those glaciers finally disappear? At their current rate, those glaciers will be gone in less than 50 years or so. That means that BILLIONS of people will suddenly run out of water. Are these billions of people going to die of thirst? What are we going to DO about it?
 
Another example would be the coral reefs. Although they may look pristine, they're dying. Those that aren't dying due to the temperature changes are dying from pollution. For example, only 10% of the reefs in some Southeast Asian countries are still in "pristine" condition. That's bad. Even ignoring the huge loss of animal life, reefs protect coastlines all over the world. Hurricanes (as well as "normal" storms) will cause much more damage once these reefs are gone. What then? What happens when harbors are suddenly no place for a boat? What about fishing? What about shipping?

These are just a few of the environmental problems that "global warming" is causing RIGHT NOW. When all of them are added up - especially if these trends get worse, as predicted - we may be in real trouble.

D.P. Roberts:
And, by the way: linky no worky. I keep getting a Google video error: "this video may not be available."

It looks like Google deleted it, as it was posted there illegally. However, if you want to view it anyway, just do a search for "The Great Global Warming Swindle." If you do that search, you'll also find out that many critics have already pointed out numerous flaws in the BBC documentary - including one the scientists they misquoted in the movie.

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