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Another kitchen question
Brewman:
I've had electric ranges with the coil tops, electric with ceramic top, and now gas.
To me and the Mrs., the gas oven works every bit as well as the electrics did.
And Mrs. B. would let me know in a hurry if the oven wasn't up to snuff- she uses it quite a bit. And it self cleans every bit as well as the electrics did.
Gas burner by far preferred by my over either electric. Not as fussy about pans, either.
Energy cost gas vs electric isn't an issue. Neither one makes that big of a difference in the utility bill.
Of all the major appliances in the house, the range probably uses the least energy- it's only on for a short time per day, and not on at all some days.
On the other hand, the fridge, dishwasher, washer and dryer, and water heater could have more impact on the energy bill. Stove? Not enought to worry about.
mattNY:
Huh - I had always believed gas ovens were not self clean, but 'continuous clean' (i.e. no dedicated self clean cycle). Clearly I'm wrong, there are a bunch of gas ovens out there with self clean. Does anyone know why dual fuel ranges carry such a price premium?
Edit: Googled and looked through some kitchen forum threads on this same topic. Most of them seem to agree that electric ovens have a more consistent temperature and can cook more evenly (though there's some debate about that). Also, for convection ovens, a "true" convection oven requires a third heating element behind the fan, which isn't done with gas ovens.
More people as confused as me ;) http://www.frenchcookingboard.com/forums/cooking-equipment/1200-ranges.html
http://www.frenchcookingboard.com/forums/cooking-equipment/1581-just-bought-a-new-house-2-days-ago.html
Dual-fuel vs. gas: http://community.cookinglight.com/showthread.php?threadid=66622
An unhappy gas oven owner (and it's a Viking): http://www.frenchcookingboard.com/forums/cooking-equipment/1523-range-question.html
A long post from Garden Web on Dual-fuel vs. gas: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/appl/msg0320571117809.html?1
The GardenWeb post has a lot of info, and I believe the FAQ and the responses together arrive at the truth.
FAQ: "For the cleaning part, gas ovens are almost never self-cleaning. Self-cleaning ovens work by heating the oven to around 800-900 F, which is hot enough to incinerate any spills to dust. After running a self-cleaning cycle, all you have to do is wipe the oven out with a damp towel, and it is clean. Gas ovens cannot get this hot, and the moisture produced by the combustion of gas hinders the cleaning as well."
ellene613's Response: "Especially in midpriced home ranges, the ovens usually are self-cleaning. They just don't get as hot or self-clean as well as electric."
I also agree with ellen that my gas range is loaded with electronics, but the FAQ author acknowledged he was only looking at high-end ranges.
Vinny:
Funny thing ... I just went to sears.com and looked for a similar stove that we bought and it seems that at the price level we paid 4 years ago, approx $400, they don't make gas self cleaning ovens any more. I have a GE and it definitely self cleans, there's a lock on the door and a clean setting on the dial.
Maybe they realized that gas ovens can't self clean that well, I thought mine did a good job.
anne:
I just had a BUSY night at work......read your replies (thanks all) and looked at those links (thanks MattNY) and I think earned myself a dual fuel range tonight...... :).
anne:
There is no turning back now.......I bought a fridge, bought the dual fuel Bosch range, and talked my dad into making cabinets for me!!!!!!! (It was a long gradual process. I do believe that he really wanted to do it all along.)
I have designed the cabinets (mostly) narrowed down my countertop choices from 2 billion to about 10, and chosen basic flooring style, and a range hood style, and a sink style. Backsplashes and lighting are still a mystery to me.
I have literally been losing sleep over this, even though my boyfriend just looks at me funny and says "its just a kitchen.".........but it is a PROJECT!!
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