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Re: I got an email

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Dr. Spa™ Ret.:
See the thread titled "The Real Spa Specialist"...

THAT is the email I received on or about the 25th.

bosco0633:
Got it.


WOW. His own family, I cant believe what an A S S Hole he is.  That just amazes me to think that people can practice buisness this way.

East_TX_Spa:
If you lie down with dogs, you're gonna get fleas.

I have no sympathy for this particular situation, sorry.

Terminator

Spatech_tuo:

--- Quote ---If you lie down with dogs, you're gonna get fleas.

I have no sympathy for this particular situation, sorry.

Terminator
--- End quote ---

You can choose your friends but families are prearranged. I can't help but to have sympathy for someone who is taken for a ride by the very person that he should be able to trust the most.

drewstar:

--- Quote ---I have now spoken with one person who has had a phone conversation with John Gruver. I have read a post from another person who has called and spoken with his wife and John himself.

I don't want to bother this person with another phone call from myself - I am convinced that this is legit. I'll take my lumps if it turns out to be a scam, but I trust the person I have spoken with completely and I have no real choice but to accept this at face value.

So now - is there anything on the planet that we can do to help this guy? I sure can't think of anything.

Even if we took up a collection and paid part of the debt, the amazing hurt would still be there, and would be very real.

One suggestion I have for John - try talking to your credit card company and see if they will work to help you collect the debt which you didn't actually incur. Then call Phoenix - Their number is 1-800-400-7727.

Or email them at: service@phoenixspas.com

Who knows? A little pressure from the people who make his tubs may get Jim to actually do the right thing.

It's worth a shot.

 8-)
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Jim probably has himself coverd by being incorporated,(house and bank accounts)  but I wonder if John could go after the corp and seize assests?  I doubt the property is listed as an asset  but the truck/camper and forklift and tools are probably listed as capital by the corp that John could sieze and auction off.

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