The Great Pool and Spa Show

[BIG_PAPA]

I dont feel the need to bight my lip about this manufacture it is  MASTER SPAS

[wmccall]

You're right about one thing here. This "greatest show on earth" is going on in every state across the nation.

I have yet to see or hear of one in Ohio.

[mowgli1]

I have yet to see or hear of one in Ohio.

Cleveland and Toledo are on their schedule.

[Gary1911]

Oh I guess the Ford, GM, Toyota guys advertising $6000 rebates ,Cash for your trade etc etc.......... is OK?  

Go to GM and PUSH THE BUTTON AT THE DEALER    Marketing whats the CRIME ?!!!!! retail is FULL OF SNAKES!!!

[mowgli1]

Oh I guess the Ford, GM, Toyota guys advertising $6000 rebates ,Cash for your trade etc etc.......... is OK?  

Go to GM and PUSH THE BUTTON AT THE DEALER    Marketing whats the CRIME ?!!!!! retail is FULL OF SNAKES!!!

Yeah and at these shows the snakes are wearing golf shirts with the Master Spa logo on them.

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Is this the Master Spas that resides in Ft Wayne Ind?

[Mendocino101]

Gary...

If you think being a snake is a good thing and since others do it must make it right.....Than you should always do business with those who feel the same as you.... Many would prefer to work with those who have a bit more integrity than that.... Also your comment is insulting to all auto dealers who do not play that type of game....but even with Autos 6000.00 off MSRP is not only more realistic but also verifiable ....Not so with spas and especially not when the company who is running the ad claims to know nothing about it.... I think you bought a M***** spa which if so...Is fine no one here is saying they are not a nice spa....but that the company promotes shows that are extremely deceitful ....

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If interested,I could enlighten a few via emails/instant messages concerning Master Spas.  Close internet bud formally worked at their facility.

[Gary1911]

Gary...

If you think being a snake is a good thing and since others do it must make it right.....Than you should always do business with those who feel the same as you.... Many would prefer to work with those who have a bit more integrity than that.... Also your comment is insulting to all auto dealers who do not play that type of game....but even with Autos 6000.00 off MSRP is not only more realistic but also verifiable ....Not so with spas and especially not when the company who is running the ad claims to know nothing about it.... I think you bought a M***** spa which if so...Is fine no one here is saying they are not a nice spa....but that the company promotes shows that are extremely deceitful ....

Sorry if you misunderstood my point I NEVER SAID IT WAS OK!
I did say that retail is full of Snakes period.
Not so with spas? Or just YOUR competition?
I wont sit here and argue with you  as  I dont have enough FACTS. And I will be the first to admit this.

Auto dealers know exactly what I am talking about, up until a few years back some people would over pay for the SAME vehicle by THOUSANDS. BUT that would be OK.?
I am not trying to insult them but THEY know the BS game they play/played.  The ones that dont play that game shouldnt take offence.
Its not verifiable with spas so that makes it OK?

I also tested ALOT of different spas . If there is a crime being commited its a couple of them that are highly touted HERE and I found to be VERY OVER RATED.

Oh YEA I DID buy a MASTER LSX WITH LED<=, IN ALMOND PEARL, WITH REDWOOD SIDES.
. After I tested HS,Sundance,Hydropool and Saratoga.

[Gary1911]

WINDSURFDOG clean-up isle 3  

[Gary1911]

Yeah and at these shows the snakes are wearing golf shirts with the Master Spa logo on them.

And............... are Boat shows any different or does that not matter because they are NOT your competition? Car shows RV shows.................

[mowgli1]

And............... are Boat shows any different or does that not matter because they are NOT your competition? Car shows RV shows.................

I am not a dealer. I am a consumer who  was defrauded at one of these shows with out and out bald faced LIES. So read your own posts especially the part about not knowing the facts.

[Mendocino101]

Gary,
Forgive me about  not understanding what you are saying in your post...You bought a Master spa and that is fine AGAIN no one where has  questioned if they make a nice spa or not....You wet tested and found that it was the right spa for you GOOD.....NOW if you had bought at one of these so called super shows you would not have had the option to wet test...nor would you have local dealer support .... It is these shows that are in brought into question and the sales practices used at them .... And for anyone who some how wants to justify them well I guess thats OK... I think for those who do.... its a little like saying Hitler was just somehow a misunderstood artist ..... after so many here who have had experience with them and most always share the same type of stories which none seem to be positive ....

[Gary1911]

I am not a dealer. I am a consumer who  was defrauded at one of these shows with out and out bald faced LIES. So read your own posts especially the part about not knowing the facts.

Sorry I dont know the facts in YOUR CASE! You were defrauded how?

[mowgli1]

Gary, please let me add some  thoughts. I only wish you the best with your new spa. You bought your spa the right way. you tested different brands and found the right spa and dealer. Master spa does make a good spa and there are very happy owners posting on this site.
 What we are livid about are these shows that Master Spa condones. Their national director of marketing organizes them.  The sales practices they use are dishonest.

  I don't want to diminish your excitement for the new spa. I hope you enjoy it for many years to come.