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George:

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--- Quote ---He is in business because he is generating enough of an income from his company to keep going.  It's just that simple.


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There are enough consiracy theorists in the U.S. to read his fables and believe that he is holding the truth. He's got a very small operation and all he's looking for is one person/week to drink the Kool-aide. as a bonus, every one of his spa customers gets upgraded to first class on the spaceship he's building to get them off the planet before the end arrives.
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With his prices he doesn't have to sell many to make a living.  Charging 12K for a modified 5k tub.

wmccall:

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Check this to start with: http://www.selberg.org/~speed/spa.html. It
Phil
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If the product is that bad, shouldn't we have more than that one site as an example?  That is a bad one, but I would have thought there would be more by now

Spatech_tuo:

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Check this to start with: http://www.selberg.org/~speed/spa.html. It
Phil
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If the product is that bad, shouldn't we have more than that one site as an example?  That is a bad one, but I would have thought there would be more by now
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But with that thinking, where are all the sites started for Marquis, Sundance, Hot Springs, Jacuzzi, etc. who sells hundreds of thousands combined. People do come to spa forums with issues but RARELY do they feel the need to dedicate a site to their feeling of abondonment. To my recollection I've only seen this done a couple other times and even then the few times I saw it (Thermospas for sure and I think I may have seen one other but not 100% who it was) those manufacturers could at lest claim that was one disgruntled cutomer out of 10s of thousands.

Dr. Spa™ Ret.:
That would depend on a number of thing, the first being just how many spas have actually been sold. Also, of those that got "burned", how many actually publicly complain, and how many of those would go to those lengths to complain, and how many of those know how to write a web site, and how many of those want to go to the time and trouble to write such a thing?????

As far as I know, that site is one of only 2 (maybe 3) that exist on the net as complaints against a spa manufacturer. The other "was" against T-spas and I believe has finally been resolved with them and most of the site has now been removed.



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Check this to start with: http://www.selberg.org/~speed/spa.html. It
Phil
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If the product is that bad, shouldn't we have more than that one site as an example?  That is a bad one, but I would have thought there would be more by now
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Campsalot:
What I mean when I say "How can he still be in business?" is you cannot be that bad consitently and reamin in business.  Over priced spas does not alone make him a failure.  I don't care how much money someone makes if they really provide an "over the top" experience from begining to end.  Thinking about how badly he treated the two individuals I read about makes me think there must be more.  Look at the coomon things between the two stories, poor delivery, non operational spas, this bizarre insulation thing DEI or whatever he calls it.  
I think this guy has one thing going for him.  His copy on his website is very "come on down home" and appeals to a certain type of individual.  People may buy into his crap simply because it feels good to find someone who will tell you "all the other guys will screw you".   Then when you secretly think "gee he is right" you are partly sucked in.  I am in the marketing business and can tell you first hand that his "Barnum and Bailey" type copy will draw people.  What I'm burned about is my firm is BBB on-line member.  I pay $750.00 a year for that.  I'm starting to think it is BS and  I'm going to look into it.

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