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Committing to a Spa
kiva:
--- Quote from: Hottubguy on December 09, 2020, 02:13:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: kiva on December 09, 2020, 11:09:57 am ---
--- Quote from: Spatech_tuo on December 05, 2020, 07:58:02 pm ---Just a couple comments not related to price or model or the brand you're mentioning.
1) Sometimes when someone is in a rural area excessive distance is unavoidable but a 90 minute distance would make me pause (not eliminate, but definitely pause) if you have other equally good options relatively close by. If you have trust in them then that's fine but if you're in an area that freezes that would really be the main concern if you were to go down hard.
Thank you. We're in the northern sacramento valley, so mild winters. I recently found that there is a BF dealer north of us that is actually closer (60-70min), but they are new to BF. I'm trying to figure out the arrangement for service.
2) I'm really surprised by the delivery dates they're quoting as manufacturers are swamped. You should go in with the idea there is a good chance they'll not meet those dates just so you're not too disappointed and in reality its something you'll have to deal with wherever you buy and the dealers can only rely on what they're being told so hopefully they're not over-promising.
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So, the story I'm being told is this: dealers were allotted "slots" each month based on their volume. Once those slots are sold, they sell for slots for the next month, etc. The primary dealer we're working with right now claims that he had 1 slot in February and then 2 in March (and others after).
What has transpired is that, we wet tested saturday, he and I talked Monday. I'm not super thrilled with his pricing and we're trying to figure the aforementioned service issue. I told him Monday I'd have to further consider. Surprise: When I talked to him Tuesday afternoon, the february slot was gone and the March ones still available.
Yes, it's possible he's being truthful...but it also smells like a sales tactic; that is, February never actually existed. Had I took it, I would have been pushed off to a later month anyway, etc. Basically, creating the illusion he has slots that other dealers don't and then just put people off a month or whatever once it approaches. Could this be confirmed with BF or am I overthinking it?
The new dealer in Redding did tell me they have been allotted 3 tubs as a new dealer for April. Who knows on that too.
Trying to figure out if one is being fleeced in this process is kind of a PITA.
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We are all dealing with allocations for tubs for 2021. On Saturday I had 5 slots open for a tub delivery on a March order. Today I have zero. It changes daily. I am also making people aware that there are plenty of things out of dealers hands right now. Such as lockdowns happening, parts being delayed, issues with covers and whatnot. It’s crazy right now. I would be willing to bet those 2 March slots will be filled by weeks end. I highly doubt he’s making things up, unfortunately right now it’s the way things are
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Thank you for this. I really appreciate it. When I get into this world that starts to feel like buying a car, I get super paranoid I'm getting played.
My wife being the badass she is, was able to put it succinctly: even if you are getting played - and you're probably not - isn't that his job? To get the most he can for a product that the market will allow? He's trying to make money - he owns the place.
The place 70min north of us said they can't match his price anyway, so we're just going to commit to the March date and see what happens.
When you said you would have 3 slots and then they would disappear: that's because of sales or because the factor would change parameters?
kiva:
--- Quote from: Sam on December 09, 2020, 01:55:05 pm ---I highly doubt anyone is fleecing you. Bullfrog dealers have limited slots and it's different for every dealer, partially based upon previous sales metrics. Things change daily, especially with covid demand increases. I've had several customers go home to think about it and the slots fill up within hours. I had a cancellation and my sales guy sold that spa 30 minutes later.
It's an insanely unprecedented explosion in our industry. 25 years in the business and nothing has ever come anywhere close to what we are seeing.
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Thank you. It's taken me a while to get to this spot of understanding...
what do you think of just saying, "screw it. I've gone this long without one, I'll just wait until next summer / fall and see where the market is. Enough time for things to sort themselves out post-vaccine? Probably impossible to predict.
Thank you for your insights.
castletonia:
If you have found a hot tub you like then go for it now. The market isn't going to change during 2021.
Hottubguy:
--- Quote from: kiva on December 09, 2020, 04:55:42 pm ---
--- Quote from: Hottubguy on December 09, 2020, 02:13:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: kiva on December 09, 2020, 11:09:57 am ---
--- Quote from: Spatech_tuo on December 05, 2020, 07:58:02 pm ---Just a couple comments not related to price or model or the brand you're mentioning.
1) Sometimes when someone is in a rural area excessive distance is unavoidable but a 90 minute distance would make me pause (not eliminate, but definitely pause) if you have other equally good options relatively close by. If you have trust in them then that's fine but if you're in an area that freezes that would really be the main concern if you were to go down hard.
Thank you. We're in the northern sacramento valley, so mild winters. I recently found that there is a BF dealer north of us that is actually closer (60-70min), but they are new to BF. I'm trying to figure out the arrangement for service.
2) I'm really surprised by the delivery dates they're quoting as manufacturers are swamped. You should go in with the idea there is a good chance they'll not meet those dates just so you're not too disappointed and in reality its something you'll have to deal with wherever you buy and the dealers can only rely on what they're being told so hopefully they're not over-promising.
--- End quote ---
So, the story I'm being told is this: dealers were allotted "slots" each month based on their volume. Once those slots are sold, they sell for slots for the next month, etc. The primary dealer we're working with right now claims that he had 1 slot in February and then 2 in March (and others after).
What has transpired is that, we wet tested saturday, he and I talked Monday. I'm not super thrilled with his pricing and we're trying to figure the aforementioned service issue. I told him Monday I'd have to further consider. Surprise: When I talked to him Tuesday afternoon, the february slot was gone and the March ones still available.
Yes, it's possible he's being truthful...but it also smells like a sales tactic; that is, February never actually existed. Had I took it, I would have been pushed off to a later month anyway, etc. Basically, creating the illusion he has slots that other dealers don't and then just put people off a month or whatever once it approaches. Could this be confirmed with BF or am I overthinking it?
The new dealer in Redding did tell me they have been allotted 3 tubs as a new dealer for April. Who knows on that too.
Trying to figure out if one is being fleeced in this process is kind of a PITA.
--- End quote ---
We are all dealing with allocations for tubs for 2021. On Saturday I had 5 slots open for a tub delivery on a March order. Today I have zero. It changes daily. I am also making people aware that there are plenty of things out of dealers hands right now. Such as lockdowns happening, parts being delayed, issues with covers and whatnot. It’s crazy right now. I would be willing to bet those 2 March slots will be filled by weeks end. I highly doubt he’s making things up, unfortunately right now it’s the way things are
--- End quote ---
Thank you for this. I really appreciate it. When I get into this world that starts to feel like buying a car, I get super paranoid I'm getting played.
My wife being the badass she is, was able to put it succinctly: even if you are getting played - and you're probably not - isn't that his job? To get the most he can for a product that the market will allow? He's trying to make money - he owns the place.
The place 70min north of us said they can't match his price anyway, so we're just going to commit to the March date and see what happens.
When you said you would have 3 slots and then they would disappear: that's because of sales or because the factor would change parameters?
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Selling tubs fast right now. In my area I think most dealers are out 4-6 months
kiva:
Thanks everybody. We went ahead and got the R7L. Right now figuring out any other options besides the jetpacks and circ pump...
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