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Spa Dealers and 2021 Product
Hottubguy:
--- Quote from: Red MC on October 07, 2020, 09:15:09 pm ---Back in July when I was shopping, most manufacturers were saying Nov/Dec. Just three months later, dates have moved out by a whole year. How much of that is due to demand vs. supply?
I would think that production ought to be back to pre-pandemic levels by now, if not higher as manufacturers look to increase their capacity to keep up with demand. Those hot tubs have to be going somewhere. If you guys aren't getting product, where's it going?
Or is this the lone industry that hasn't gotten back to work? Seems unlikely.
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Most is due to demand. Some is due to parts availability. I know of a couple of manufacturers that had more hot tubs ordered in August then all of 2019. Pretty wild in the spa
Industry right now
Sam:
--- Quote from: Hottubguy on October 07, 2020, 02:30:11 pm ---Caldera 47 weeks
Nordic January 2022
Marquis January-February 2022
Those are brands I carry
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That's insane. How are small dealers going to survive this? If you didn't order a bunch of inventory this summer, I'm not sure what you can do to keep the bills paid.
BullFrogSpasMN:
--- Quote from: Sam on October 08, 2020, 02:34:11 pm ---
--- Quote from: Hottubguy on October 07, 2020, 02:30:11 pm ---Caldera 47 weeks
Nordic January 2022
Marquis January-February 2022
Those are brands I carry
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That's insane. How are small dealers going to survive this? If you didn't order a bunch of inventory this summer, I'm not sure what you can do to keep the bills paid.
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They won't survive unless a big % of their income comes from 'other' items: pools, fireplaces, game room stuff, patio furniture, saunas, etc. etc. My various reps have told me they were begging their dealers to place large orders months ago and for those that didn't listen or simply didn't have the financial means to lay out that much cash they are basically at this point 'cutoff' from getting any product at all until late 2021 or 2022. Can we just fast forward through this dumpster fire of a year?
Red MC:
Are you suggesting that the biggest and/or weathiest dealers pre-emptively placed large volumes of orders and are effectively monopolizing the supply, and dealers who placed orders when they had buyers (as in a normal year) are screwed because they're backed up behind all these mega-orders? If so, I think it's short sighted for the manufacturers to allow that, because they're going to come out of this with a smaller dealer network. Wouldn't it be better for them to make sure all of their dealers get some share of production based on their sales volume in prior years?
BullFrogSpasMN:
--- Quote from: Red MC on October 08, 2020, 05:20:49 pm ---Are you suggesting that the biggest and/or weathiest dealers pre-emptively placed large volumes of orders and are effectively monopolizing the supply, and dealers who placed orders when they had buyers (as in a normal year) are screwed because they're backed up behind all these mega-orders? If so, I think it's short sighted for the manufacturers to allow that, because they're going to come out of this with a smaller dealer network. Wouldn't it be better for them to make sure all of their dealers get some share of production based on their sales volume in prior years?
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depends, there's like 75-100 spa manufacturers probably more if you figure global manufacturers overseas and 98% of them privately owned so they can do as they please...but most of the 'big dogs' have setup order allotments therefore allowing all dealers to get some product like you said all based on sales volume in prior years so they are attempting to make it as fair as possible. Bottom line though demand is 5x normal and supply is 5x less or rather taking 5x longer to build the product so someone is going to get 'left behind' unfortunately
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