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New Tub Purchased - Electrical underneath the brick, or through side chaseway?
Pcola77:
I recently did the same (but under a stone base, not concrete or pavers), and am really glad I did. Just didn't want to worry about drilling a hole into the side, having conduit there for someone to trip on, etc.
BUT, our sales people were horrendous (although maybe partially blamed on how busy they have been because of COVID), and acted like I was crazy, and that no one does that, and they didn't have any schematic. I knew they had one of our model on the showroom floor about an hour away, so I said I wanted to go there to look at it myself, and then they finally claimed to understand what I wanted to do. they told me where to drill up, and I said I could still come look just to be extra sure. They assured me I didn't need to. And of course they told me the wrong spot. Luckily our electrician is a family friend,so he did the extra work to zig-zag around stuff that was in the way. End result, I am happy with the cleaner look, but just make super duper sure you have the right spot.
JoesTub:
--- Quote from: Pcola77 on June 30, 2020, 10:10:13 am ---I recently did the same (but under a stone base, not concrete or pavers), and am really glad I did. Just didn't want to worry about drilling a hole into the side, having conduit there for someone to trip on, etc.
BUT, our sales people were horrendous (although maybe partially blamed on how busy they have been because of COVID), and acted like I was crazy, and that no one does that, and they didn't have any schematic. I knew they had one of our model on the showroom floor about an hour away, so I said I wanted to go there to look at it myself, and then they finally claimed to understand what I wanted to do. they told me where to drill up, and I said I could still come look just to be extra sure. They assured me I didn't need to. And of course they told me the wrong spot. Luckily our electrician is a family friend,so he did the extra work to zig-zag around stuff that was in the way. End result, I am happy with the cleaner look, but just make super duper sure you have the right spot.
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Thanks Pcola77. I am using the schematic for the tub that I found on Bullfrogs website, https://www.shopthegreatescape.com/_wss/clients/20/assets/A8L:R8L:X8L.jpg and have updated the sketches i've made in Visio. Here is my math:
Brick patio will be 12' X 9'; the base of the tub is 89.6" square. I'll be positioning it so that it has an equal gap from each side and the back.
Internal Electrical Stub up is 5" from front, and 5" from left side.
Width = 108"
Tub = 89.6"
Total width gap = 18.4"
Gap on each side (right, left, back) = 9.2"
Mark to center of Stub up from Left = 14.2" (9.2" + 5")
Mark to center of Stub up from Back = 93.8" (9.2" + 89.6" - 5")
Thanks
Joe
Pcola77:
That math looks right, good luck!
--- Quote from: JoesTub on June 30, 2020, 11:46:10 am ---
--- Quote from: Pcola77 on June 30, 2020, 10:10:13 am ---I recently did the same (but under a stone base, not concrete or pavers), and am really glad I did. Just didn't want to worry about drilling a hole into the side, having conduit there for someone to trip on, etc.
BUT, our sales people were horrendous (although maybe partially blamed on how busy they have been because of COVID), and acted like I was crazy, and that no one does that, and they didn't have any schematic. I knew they had one of our model on the showroom floor about an hour away, so I said I wanted to go there to look at it myself, and then they finally claimed to understand what I wanted to do. they told me where to drill up, and I said I could still come look just to be extra sure. They assured me I didn't need to. And of course they told me the wrong spot. Luckily our electrician is a family friend,so he did the extra work to zig-zag around stuff that was in the way. End result, I am happy with the cleaner look, but just make super duper sure you have the right spot.
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Thanks Pcola77. I am using the schematic for the tub that I found on Bullfrogs website, https://www.shopthegreatescape.com/_wss/clients/20/assets/A8L:R8L:X8L.jpg and have updated the sketches i've made in Visio. Here is my math:
Brick patio will be 12' X 9'; the base of the tub is 89.6" square. I'll be positioning it so that it has an equal gap from each side and the back.
Internal Electrical Stub up is 5" from front, and 5" from left side.
Width = 108"
Tub = 89.6"
Total width gap = 18.4"
Gap on each side (right, left, back) = 9.2"
Mark to center of Stub up from Left = 14.2" (9.2" + 5")
Mark to center of Stub up from Back = 93.8" (9.2" + 89.6" - 5")
Thanks
Joe
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swilly1000:
--- Quote from: Pcola77 on June 30, 2020, 10:10:13 am ---BUT, our sales people were horrendous (although maybe partially blamed on how busy they have been because of COVID), and acted like I was crazy, and that no one does that, and they didn't have any schematic. I knew they had one of our model on the showroom floor about an hour away, so I said I wanted to go there to look at it myself, and then they finally claimed to understand what I wanted to do. they told me where to drill up, and I said I could still come look just to be extra sure. They assured me I didn't need to. And of course they told me the wrong spot. Luckily our electrician is a family friend,so he did the extra work to zig-zag around stuff that was in the way. End result, I am happy with the cleaner look, but just make super duper sure you have the right spot.
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Of course there is a schematic! If the dealer tells you otherwise, that's an open invitation to contact the manufacturer (and tell them about the dealer's ignorance of same).
Your experience is a perfect example of not relying on what someone else (especially the dealer!?) tells you. If you want something done right....
JoesTub:
Update - my tub was delivered yesterday.
Electrical was trenched, and brick patio laid last week. I re-measured after the patio was in to update my target, and created a template, that I would use to line up the spot for a pilot hole on the bottom of the tub. All the videos i saw of tub delivery, had the tub on it's side, so i figured it would be easy to get to. Instead, they came an hour early (which would've been welcome, if i wasn't on a conference call), and they brought the tub in, on a dolly, resting on it's bottom. There wasn't room to get the drill in underneath, so I had to drill my hole from inside the equipment compartment. Well, without a template, I was off on my spot. After they placed the tub over the conduit, it didn't look bad, and i'm probably the only one who would've noticed, but after all the planning i had undertaken, it would've bugged me. There is a black border of bricks that make it obvious if it isn't centered. So, if i was going to correct it, i needed to do it before i filled the tub. I measured the distance the tub needed to move, marked the plastic base, and went at it with my dremel. took some time, but once i removed the piece and slid the tub over, it's perfect.
My advice to anyone else planning something similar - either insist when they deliver that they lift it on it's side so you have access to the bottom; or, have an additional template ready to go that corresponds to the interior of the equipment compartment. It's getting wired up now as i'm typing this. Thanks everyone for the feedback.
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