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Used D1 Chariman or New Master Twilight?

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BullFrogSpasMN:

--- Quote from: swilly1000 on December 27, 2019, 03:19:21 pm ---Most of the dealers but none of the end users on this forum dislike Master.

I have a TS8.25 and I love it.

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The product is what it is, no better or worse then your other mid level spas that sell for 8-10k, what most of us dislike is their traveling circus that comes into cities once a year and unloads product and leaves town leaving a bad name for the industry overall, that's really it and honestly it doesn't even affect most markets, just a few that they travel through...I think all the "hate" is really over-blown/misplaced imo

Tman122:

--- Quote from: swilly1000 on December 27, 2019, 03:19:21 pm ---Most of the dealers but none of the end users on this forum dislike Master.

I have a TS8.25 and I love it.

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I could give you hundreds of unhappy Master Spa users.

Been doing this a long time and likely saw more 5-8 YO masters that were junk than any other brand. Energy hungry complaints abound.

But they fall where they should. A middle of the road tub.

The OP should know that swillys tub is less than a year old. Give it 5 more years and you will wonder how good of a deal you really got.

D1, one of the best brands out there. Master Spa, middle of the road energy hog.

https://www.bbb.org/us/in/fort-wayne/profile/hot-tub-manufacturing/master-spas-0352-10011179/complaints

Everyone is entitled to their opinion swilly. I'll respect yours more in a few years.

The OP can choose the value of whatever opinion they want. A newbie user who was convinced "hot tub university" was a legit site. Or a seasoned dealer or independent repair guy with 30-40 years of hot tub experience, some who have carried MS in the past, or worked on tons of them. I have likely worked on close to 100 of them over the years of my experience.

But hey that won't matter to swilly cause he has owned one for a few months.

I agree with some of the others. I would take that D1 over 2 new Masters, but the used price is a bit high.

rzrfan:
Thanks for all of the feedback.  To be honest, I am not surprised about the love them or hate them reputation for Master.

For what is worth...
New Chairman is around $14,500, the used one is discounted by about 1/3, plus no tax (which is about $1K on a new tub).
The previous owner was "an old lady that has to move", not sure I buy the story, but that is what they told me.
Includes new filters, new cover, new steps, delivery and startup kit.
I have not yet, but I will go see it if I move forward with the used purchase.

I am going to try and get the used price down a bit and go that route.  If that is not possible, I think it is very close on the two units, maybe I will let the wife decide which she likes better. 

I am looking at this way, a used Lexus or a new Ford, plenty of people buy both.



castletonia:
If you do have reservations about their story, get the serial # and call D1.  They should be able to provide you any warranty service work that had been done.  A new cover, filters, step, etc is good.

I assume these are from different dealers.  Factor in the reputation of each dealer and if possible, wet test.

Tman122:

--- Quote from: rzrfan on December 27, 2019, 06:46:19 pm ---I am looking at this way, a used Lexus or a new Ford, plenty of people buy both.

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This is absolutely the truth......

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