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swilly1000:
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--- Quote from: swilly1000 on June 29, 2019, 09:22:56 am ---
--- Quote from: Spatech_tuo on June 28, 2019, 04:13:39 pm ---Speak for yourself and allow others have have their own opinions and experiences.
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What?!
I most certainly do allow others to have their opinions and experiences.
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Then why do you say tings like this multiple times "As you say, we are all entitled to our opinions. I'm not discounting your opinion."
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Holy moly!!!!
Do you not understand the difference between an opinion and a factual observation??
This is even worse than I thought.
swilly1000:
--- Quote from: Tman122 on June 29, 2019, 08:06:18 am ---
--- Quote from: swilly1000 on June 28, 2019, 12:43:33 pm ---I'm rebutting incorrect and baseless claims with facts.
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My claims aren't baseless. I have seen, soaked in, owned and worked on many, many more master spas than you have.
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How many have you owned? When and for how long? What models?
Holgmi585281:
--- Quote from: Spatech_tuo on June 28, 2019, 10:28:50 pm ---
--- Quote from: Holgmi585281 on June 28, 2019, 09:58:22 pm ---
Where i purchased mine from they predominately sell Master and they have so far installed 18367 spas to date .
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Over what general time frame?
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They started as a small family firm in 2004.
When i had my spa installed on 8th June they had fit 18000. They sell quite a few considering the UK market is tiny compared.
Tman122:
--- Quote from: swilly1000 on June 29, 2019, 09:32:33 am ---
OK listen closely children because this is VERY complicated.
Someone ran an empirical (do we need to stop here for a dictionary, or can I continue?) analysis that proves wrong the lazy-ass throw away baseless claims about Master efficiency, but none of the haters are willing to acknowledge that. Rather they ramp up the lash-back.
Pathetic.
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OK lets see your data so I can blow holes in it. It's from someone? (likely a MS salesman or factory guy?)
And calling people names gets you an award for being the only one who is the A** here.
Here in Minnesota they are one of the more in-efficient on the market along with others (should I wait for you to get YOUR dictionary out?)
And I had meter data from 2 of them. 2 that I owned.
Here, this is lazy and throw away.......
MASTER SPA is JUNK, you made a bad choice and come here to try and somehow justify it by telling us how good it is.
Us who have been it this business for 30-40 years, us who have seen hundreds, likely thousands of MS, us who have owned I think i have about 6 of them, us who have repaired them and seen every inch of them. Us who know what kinda a company it REALLY is.
Someone told you the only truth you need to know. MS is an OK tub. Middle of the road, nothing more.
Bill, I posted some pictures here 10-15 years ago of a 7 YO Master Spa I took a sawzall to for disposal. I looked back and can't seem to find the post. I wonder if it was under a different name? I first came here under Tman not Tman122
kies1:
I love reading these threads, I did a lot of research when looking at buying a hot tub. I went to arctic spa, sundance, jacuzzi, hotsprings and yes master spas. The only dealer to bad mouth any other brand was the master spa dealer. I was totally taken back by it. Not one other dealer said anything bad about any other brand. Oh and beach comber. I base my purchases on how I feel a brand and their dealers do business. To Swilly if you want to support a brand that has questionable business practices all the power to you. I as a consumer would not support a brand or company that does that. To me it is unethical. I ended up buying a hot springs hot tub and for the most part have been happy. I will be honest we have had a few minor issues with it but the dealer and hot springs have been wonderful to deal with and all concerns have been dealt with and I feel confident that the dealer and hotsprings will do so if any other concerns happen. Will master spas do the same for you. I did notice a lesser build quality in master spas compared to the rest. Fit and finish was just not there. My opinion. I just cannot support a company/ dealer that thinks they can sell a product bad mouthing every other brand. Just my two cents. And my hydro bill has not changed since running the spa, Ontario winter. NO INCREASE in my hydro bill. I hope that if/when you have problems with your Master Spas that your dealer and Master Spa come to the plate. Hot springs and my dealer have and for me that is the most important thing.
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