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Hot Springs vs Arctic
kies1:
--- Quote from: Hottubguy on April 27, 2019, 02:24:42 pm ---Which Hot Spring model are you considering? They use a different insulation on the Highlife versus limelight or Hot Spot. The insulation on a Highlife series is a very dense foam that is tough to work through if you had a jet leak or something like that. The Limelight/Hot Spots use what's called fibre Core insulation. It's a wool like material that makes fixing leaks quite easy. Its easy to pull out and replace
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One of the reasons I went with the hotsprings flash
retiredmt:
--- Quote from: Hottubguy on April 27, 2019, 02:24:42 pm ---Which Hot Spring model are you considering? They use a different insulation on the Highlife versus limelight or Hot Spot. The insulation on a Highlife series is a very dense foam that is tough to work through if you had a jet leak or something like that. The Limelight/Hot Spots use what's called fibre Core insulation. It's a wool like material that makes fixing leaks quite easy. Its easy to pull out and replace
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We are looking at the Arctic Fox or the Jetsetter LX. Both using salt water.
Sam:
The whole insulation pitch for Arctic is b.s. in my opinion. As tman stated, full foam insulation supports the plumbing and glue joints and reduces the likleihood of leaks. We keep a 3 foot section of plumbing filled with water and capped off to hand to people so they can feel how heavy it is. Then imagine it vibrating all day from the pumps. The foam cradles the plumbing and dampens vibration.
Additionally, in that type of insulation system the pumps and circuit board are now operating in this enclosed space that gets hot. There is no fan or ventilation (that I am aware of), which means the life expectancy of the electronics should be decreased in theory. Would you buy a computer with no ventilation fan? This is just my theory and I have no data to back it up, but it seems pretty logical to me.
I just can't figure out how they convince people that less insulation is somehow better than more insulation. It's kinda silly to me. That, and the whole access for repairs thing. I'm not going to put insulation in my walls because there is plumbing in there and I don't want to bury it... Sounds stupid if you ask me. Maybe that's not a valid comparison but I tend to think the whole perimeter insulation pitch is nonsense. Years ago I thought it made sense but I've evolved on the subject.
I'm also not really a fan of salt systems but I won't try to talk you out of it. I've seen a lot of heaters all rusted out on spas with salt systems. I know the guys that sell them will say otherwise but knowing that salt is simply a chlorine or bromine generator and the fact that there are plenty of other systems that make it so you don't smell or feel chemicals, I personally don't like them.
Water Boy:
--- Quote from: retiredmt on April 27, 2019, 06:43:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: Hottubguy on April 27, 2019, 02:24:42 pm ---Which Hot Spring model are you considering? They use a different insulation on the Highlife versus limelight or Hot Spot. The insulation on a Highlife series is a very dense foam that is tough to work through if you had a jet leak or something like that. The Limelight/Hot Spots use what's called fibre Core insulation. It's a wool like material that makes fixing leaks quite easy. Its easy to pull out and replace
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We are looking at the Arctic Fox or the Jetsetter LX. Both using salt water.
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Both good options to look at. The Arctic Fox is our top seller in our store. One nice thing with the Fox is that you have two different pump and jetting packages that you can choose from. You can choose between one or two pumps. The Jetsetter just comes with one pump and one circ pump. The Fox is quite a bit taller than the Jetsetter at 39" tall. Being in Montana, I could see that as a benefit as you can get down further into the tub when it is cold outside. All of the jets on the Arctic Spa are the spinning- rotating massaging jets. They don't use any of the directional jets. I love the feel of the rotating jets in my spa. The Arctic does have the thicker cover at 5". Arctic also comes with adjustable head pillows, and the Forever floor base to seal it underneath. Does HS spas have any kind of floors these days? I think some of the NT ones do, but not certain. Both are great spas. Like someone mentioned, do your research on the dealers, and maybe at least sit in both dry, and try to wet test if you can. I can personally tell you that the Arctic Spa dealer in Montana is a long time Arctic Dealer, and is a stand up guy and company.
Someone asked about a fan or exhaust.. They do have a built in exhaust fan in the cabinet. If the spa gets over three degrees of the set temperature, there is a fan that will kick on to vent the heat out. Once the spa cools, the fan will shut off automatically. Also, there are summer door options that you can get in place of a insulated door. Don't really need that with the exhaust fan tho.
retiredmt:
Water Boy, thanks for the comments. Just to let you know, both of the top models in the line we are looking at have 2 pumps (I thought). Look at the specs for the Jetsetter LX. It also has the back massage, but I don't know how reliable that is. The Arctic appears to be more automatic, where manual testing every week is not critical. I also like your comment about the height. Although height is not critical for us. It appears that the two things that will help us decide is how comfortable we are sitting in them and cost. At this time the Fox is about $2500 cheaper. But we're not ready to buy just yet.
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