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Hot Spring Sold by Pioneer Pools Toronto Area Help.
swilly1000:
--- Quote from: Spatech_tuo on November 16, 2018, 11:55:41 am ---If they did reduce their leaks by 70% 1) they REALLY had/have a quality control issue in the first place, 2) Its not about the parts but more about the process. The jet itself isn't the issue as much as is the gasket/silicone process, how you install/torque them down, how you plumb them and certainly how you prep the fiberglass... I call BS on claiming they solved their issue with more expensive jets but then again that entire HTU is a big Marketing ploy.
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--- Quote from: BullFrogSpasMN on November 16, 2018, 12:43:23 pm ---LOL even if he had a way to track this (which he absolutely doesn't) It still wouldn't be believable...his vids are good for a few laughs I will say that
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--- Quote from: Sam on November 16, 2018, 01:46:55 pm ---100% agree. I rarely see leaks from the jets, but even when you do it typically has nothing to do with the jet itself. It's the manufacturing process more than anything. HTU guy is a good salesman and sounds super knowledgeable to a consumer but a lot of what he says is total b.s. and spin to sell master spas.
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Lol, I flippin' knew that the haters would come out. That's why I didn't mention Master here lol:
https://www.whatsthebest-hottub.com/forum/index.php/topic,17903.0.html
castletonia:
Rarely do I ever hear or see jet leaks. Can't imagine that it would make a difference between Waterway and CMP. I would assume that it is either error when installing the jet fittings or was an issue with a shell mold that didn't allow the jet body to seat properly. Either way, I could care less between the two jet manufacturers as I can't recall an issue with either or.
Hottubguy:
--- Quote from: swilly1000 on November 16, 2018, 06:53:39 am ---Chris from HTU told me that Master went to CMP jets from Waterway starting in 2017. He also told me that it reduced leak failures by 70% (from, I presume, an already low number) and that the ones they chose were actually more expensive than the Waterway jets. Without mentioning Master (for fear of inviting a hate-on) I bumped an old thread on CMP vs Waterway to seek some other opinions.
For sure manufacturers will move it around based on cost and performance, especially for components they are out-sourcing anyway.
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Marquis also switched to CMP around the same time. Guessing it had to do more with pricing then nything else. In almost 20 years I’ve only seen a couple of jet leaks.
Spatech_tuo:
--- Quote from: castletonia on November 16, 2018, 02:20:39 pm ---Rarely do I ever hear or see jet leaks. Can't imagine that it would make a difference between Waterway and CMP. I would assume that it is either error when installing the jet fittings or was an issue with a shell mold that didn't allow the jet body to seat properly. Either way, I could care less between the two jet manufacturers as I can't recall an issue with either or.
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Exactly, its not hating when you are experienced enough to be able to read between the lines.
bachman:
I'd think the HTU guy would be updating his video information too if for nothing else, but to maintain some level of credibility or positive perception. I haven't looked him up in a few months now but as with these jets, he's still shown to be touting the WW jets as the premier brand then, and saying they lost their place now. It does make sense to me from comments about assembly, how tubs are built and put together / plumbed etc... that the jets themselves are not a big gremlin.
The reason I like forums on most products, topics or interests is the variety of shared experiences by real owners, tech's ,sales or service people. Nothing better than to weed out the occasional misplaced rant, fancy advertising or promises and a wealth of confirmation bias that can develop.
It seems like the quality, brand, marketing and pricing mysteries of hot tubs help make HTU a genuine-sounding hero of inside information.
I really feel my good fortune in getting a free tub is second only to the fantastic miss-out not having to shop, trust or learn as I go when I'd have been considering a sizable expense on such a contraption. At the time and with little knowledge, I'd guess we might have been looking in the $7000 to $8000 range. Certainly not the luxury tier as I'm finding out anyways. ::)
*I know not everyone agrees on everything but I thank all who are willing to share some thoughts, opinions or experience's for the newer tubbers. 8)
The most exciting things that happened to me Friday was finding my secondary car keyfob (temporarily lost) and testing the water in the tub to see all parameters hit the mark. Not quite 3 weeks since filling and starting chemistry, I might have nearly double dosed with the bromine floater and some leftover in the frog but I then read bromine takes a while to get the level in there.
Now for a week or so, I took the floater out and it's right on the money.
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