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Spatech_tuo:
--- Quote from: swilly1000 on November 16, 2018, 06:53:39 am ---Chris from HTU told me that Master went to CMP jets from Waterway starting in 2017. He also told me that it reduced leak failures by 70% (from, I presume, an already low number) and that the ones they chose were actually more expensive than the Waterway jets. Without mentioning Master (for fear of inviting a hate-on) I bumped an old thread on CMP vs Waterway to seek some other opinions.
For sure manufacturers will move it around based on cost and performance, especially for components they are out-sourcing anyway.
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If they did reduce their leaks by 70% 1) they REALLY had/have a quality control issue in the first place, 2) Its not about the parts but more about the process. The jet itself isn't the issue as much as is the gasket/silicone process, how you install/torque them down, how you plumb them and certainly how you prep the fiberglass... I call BS on claiming they solved their issue with more expensive jets but then again that entire HTU is a big Marketing ploy.
BullFrogSpasMN:
--- Quote from: swilly1000 on November 16, 2018, 06:53:39 am ---Chris from HTU told me that Master went to CMP jets from Waterway starting in 2017. He also told me that it reduced leak failures by 70% (from, I presume, an already low number) and that the ones they chose were actually more expensive than the Waterway jets. Without mentioning Master (for fear of inviting a hate-on) I bumped an old thread on CMP vs Waterway to seek some other opinions.
For sure manufacturers will move it around based on cost and performance, especially for components they are out-sourcing anyway.
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LOL even if he had a way to track this (which he absolutely doesn't) It still wouldn't be believable...his vids are good for a few laughs I will say that
Sam:
--- Quote from: Spatech_tuo on November 16, 2018, 11:55:41 am ---
--- Quote from: swilly1000 on November 16, 2018, 06:53:39 am ---Chris from HTU told me that Master went to CMP jets from Waterway starting in 2017. He also told me that it reduced leak failures by 70% (from, I presume, an already low number) and that the ones they chose were actually more expensive than the Waterway jets. Without mentioning Master (for fear of inviting a hate-on) I bumped an old thread on CMP vs Waterway to seek some other opinions.
For sure manufacturers will move it around based on cost and performance, especially for components they are out-sourcing anyway.
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If they did reduce their leaks by 70% 1) they REALLY had/have a quality control issue in the first place, 2) Its not about the parts but more about the process. The jet itself isn't the issue as much as is the gasket/silicone process, how you install/torque them down, how you plumb them and certainly how you prep the fiberglass... I call BS on claiming they solved their issue with more expensive jets but then again that entire HTU is a big Marketing ploy.
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100% agree. I rarely see leaks from the jets, but even when you do it typically has nothing to do with the jet itself. It's the manufacturing process more than anything. HTU guy is a good salesman and sounds super knowledgeable to a consumer but a lot of what he says is total b.s. and spin to sell master spas.
swilly1000:
--- Quote from: Spatech_tuo on November 16, 2018, 11:55:41 am ---If they did reduce their leaks by 70% 1) they REALLY had/have a quality control issue in the first place, 2) Its not about the parts but more about the process. The jet itself isn't the issue as much as is the gasket/silicone process, how you install/torque them down, how you plumb them and certainly how you prep the fiberglass... I call BS on claiming they solved their issue with more expensive jets but then again that entire HTU is a big Marketing ploy.
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How do you know that? How do know that their failure rate wasn't 2.0% and it went by down by 70% to 0.6%?
swilly1000:
--- Quote from: BullFrogSpasMN on November 16, 2018, 12:43:23 pm ---LOL even if he had a way to track this (which he absolutely doesn't) It still wouldn't be believable...his vids are good for a few laughs I will say that
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How do you know that? How do you know that Master didn't tell him that number themselves?
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