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New to this first hot tub drain slip up
bud16415:
--- Quote from: gmdodt on October 24, 2018, 02:48:19 pm ---Bud, can you elaborate a little more on putting salt in the tub before you drain it? Why would one do that?
Also, 50ppm? Is that a typo? Why would it need to be soo high? I'm thinking of switching, only reason I ask.
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No I put the salt in the tub and leave it there for the life of the fill. My friend has an aftermarket salt Gen on his tub. It makes chlorine out of the salt in the water with an anode. The side benefit of having the salt in the water is it makes the water feel great. I have long thought about buying a saltron mini unit and doing just as he did and be done with messing with dichlor and the rest. I haven’t done that yet but a member posted last year her supplier was recommending salt just for the feel it provides. So I gave it a try and like it. My tub is about 400 gallons and I add 7 pounds of salt when I change the water. I don’t use the mineral cartridges any longer as I didn’t feel they did anything.
As to the 50PPM that’s not chlorine that’s stabilizer CYA that is built into dichlor. Dichlor is made for pools and they see sunlight. Sunlight breaks down CYA and its purpose is to slow down the action of the chlorine. Hot tubs are mostly covered so if you keep using dichlor the CYA keeps building and gets too high and your chlorine doesn’t work well. Bleach is just chlorine and has no stabilizer CYA. 50PPM is a good range to try and stay in if you dose your tub daily or every other day.
So I start off with dichlor (more expensive) watch the CYA when it hits 50PPM I switch to bleach (less expensive)
This works good about 350 days out of the year. When I go on vacation instead of having the neighbor come over I buy an @ease cartridge that lasts a month it is chlorine based. I pry the cap off and pour the contents into an old dichlor container. If I’m going away for a week I dump one forth of it in the frog inline container snap the lid on and put it in the tub. Two week vacation I put half back etc.
Call me cheap lol. I just see most of this hot tub stuff as overpriced and marketing. My dealer told me putting salt in my tub will cause it to rot out just like road salt eats up our cars.
Asha:
Thanks for the responses. Salt in the tub sounds appealing. My dealer also said that you can just add it, but the size of the package they showed me was no larger than 1 pound. In your opinion would that amount do anything for the water feel, I’m not necessarily looking for it to help with the sanitation at this point.
bud16415:
--- Quote from: Asha on October 24, 2018, 04:00:12 pm ---Thanks for the responses. Salt in the tub sounds appealing. My dealer also said that you can just add it, but the size of the package they showed me was no larger than 1 pound. In your opinion would that amount do anything for the water feel, I’m not necessarily looking for it to help with the sanitation at this point.
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Pool salt comes in 40 pound bags and it seems like a good size mixing bowl 7 pounds is a lot, but in concentration it is less than the salt in a humans tears. Ocean water on the other hand is something like a 100 times greater if I remember correct.
I can’t say scientifically, but it is my opinion after running salt in my water that it makes maintaining my chemicals easier as well as feeling better.
I know the salt you are talking about Dead Sea salt or something. IMO that’s just more snake oil. The stuff I’m talking about is dirt cheap like 5 bucks for 40 pounds. It is basically table salt without the iodine I think.
Botswana:
--- Quote from: bud16415 on October 24, 2018, 03:18:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: gmdodt on October 24, 2018, 02:48:19 pm ---Bud, can you elaborate a little more on putting salt in the tub before you drain it? Why would one do that?
Also, 50ppm? Is that a typo? Why would it need to be soo high? I'm thinking of switching, only reason I ask.
--- End quote ---
No I put the salt in the tub and leave it there for the life of the fill. My friend has an aftermarket salt Gen on his tub. It makes chlorine out of the salt in the water with an anode. The side benefit of having the salt in the water is it makes the water feel great. I have long thought about buying a saltron mini unit and doing just as he did and be done with messing with dichlor and the rest. I haven’t done that yet but a member posted last year her supplier was recommending salt just for the feel it provides. So I gave it a try and like it. My tub is about 400 gallons and I add 7 pounds of salt when I change the water. I don’t use the mineral cartridges any longer as I didn’t feel they did anything.
As to the 50PPM that’s not chlorine that’s stabilizer CYA that is built into dichlor. Dichlor is made for pools and they see sunlight. Sunlight breaks down CYA and its purpose is to slow down the action of the chlorine. Hot tubs are mostly covered so if you keep using dichlor the CYA keeps building and gets too high and your chlorine doesn’t work well. Bleach is just chlorine and has no stabilizer CYA. 50PPM is a good range to try and stay in if you dose your tub daily or every other day.
So I start off with dichlor (more expensive) watch the CYA when it hits 50PPM I switch to bleach (less expensive)
This works good about 350 days out of the year. When I go on vacation instead of having the neighbor come over I buy an @ease cartridge that lasts a month it is chlorine based. I pry the cap off and pour the contents into an old dichlor container. If I’m going away for a week I dump one forth of it in the frog inline container snap the lid on and put it in the tub. Two week vacation I put half back etc.
Call me cheap lol. I just see most of this hot tub stuff as overpriced and marketing. My dealer told me putting salt in my tub will cause it to rot out just like road salt eats up our cars.
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i like cheap. I may have to try the salt thing. It doesnt effect any other chemistry? Also, Ive been prying the lids off my bromie spa frogs and replacing them with 3rd party tablets and its been working great (except the skin irritation thing, lol). Cant believe there is no third party knock off that fits the spa frog stuff.
bud16415:
--- Quote from: gmdodt on October 25, 2018, 10:41:35 am ---
--- Quote from: bud16415 on October 24, 2018, 03:18:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: gmdodt on October 24, 2018, 02:48:19 pm ---Bud, can you elaborate a little more on putting salt in the tub before you drain it? Why would one do that?
Also, 50ppm? Is that a typo? Why would it need to be soo high? I'm thinking of switching, only reason I ask.
--- End quote ---
No I put the salt in the tub and leave it there for the life of the fill. My friend has an aftermarket salt Gen on his tub. It makes chlorine out of the salt in the water with an anode. The side benefit of having the salt in the water is it makes the water feel great. I have long thought about buying a saltron mini unit and doing just as he did and be done with messing with dichlor and the rest. I haven’t done that yet but a member posted last year her supplier was recommending salt just for the feel it provides. So I gave it a try and like it. My tub is about 400 gallons and I add 7 pounds of salt when I change the water. I don’t use the mineral cartridges any longer as I didn’t feel they did anything.
As to the 50PPM that’s not chlorine that’s stabilizer CYA that is built into dichlor. Dichlor is made for pools and they see sunlight. Sunlight breaks down CYA and its purpose is to slow down the action of the chlorine. Hot tubs are mostly covered so if you keep using dichlor the CYA keeps building and gets too high and your chlorine doesn’t work well. Bleach is just chlorine and has no stabilizer CYA. 50PPM is a good range to try and stay in if you dose your tub daily or every other day.
So I start off with dichlor (more expensive) watch the CYA when it hits 50PPM I switch to bleach (less expensive)
This works good about 350 days out of the year. When I go on vacation instead of having the neighbor come over I buy an @ease cartridge that lasts a month it is chlorine based. I pry the cap off and pour the contents into an old dichlor container. If I’m going away for a week I dump one forth of it in the frog inline container snap the lid on and put it in the tub. Two week vacation I put half back etc.
Call me cheap lol. I just see most of this hot tub stuff as overpriced and marketing. My dealer told me putting salt in my tub will cause it to rot out just like road salt eats up our cars.
--- End quote ---
i like cheap. I may have to try the salt thing. It doesnt effect any other chemistry? Also, Ive been prying the lids off my bromie spa frogs and replacing them with 3rd party tablets and its been working great (except the skin irritation thing, lol). Cant believe there is no third party knock off that fits the spa frog stuff.
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They must still have patent protection or something. The bromine in the frog canisters is busted up chunks. With the pills you might need to open the dispense rate up. I tried that a few times before we switched away from bromine. The @ease type of chlorine is made to break down slowly and as far as I know there is no way to buy that bulk yet.
There is a lot of misinformation all around about salt. The people that sell aftermarket salt gen systems will tell you there is nothing in the water path that salt will harm. The people selling bromine and chlorine canisters will tell you it will eat your tub up nothing flat.
Like I said above I see no down side to adding salt and it seems to me if anything made my water easier to keep in line.
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