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Cuddlebug:
Master seems has four layer foam insulation the big therapy jets especially the 2 foot blasters,a 2.5# 5 to 3" tapered cover, that no other spas at the 8000 price pointf offer.really like marquis celebrity elite but no bench model and mostly small jets and no real foot jets same with artesian.would have to step up to island elite line or marquis signature line to get foot blasters and we'll over 10000 for both. Other tubs such as hot springs,sundance/jaccuzzi, all over priced with proprietary parts. Same with marquis vector

Cuddlebug:
Thanks for your input and am referencing master twilight's series 7.25 or 8.25. JuSt haven't seen any other brands that can compare to shell,jetting,insulation,cover specs, at the 7k to 8k price point that don't have proprietary parts that really limit choices for longevity of tub maintenance

castletonia:
Have you actually wet tested any spas yet?  If not, then you have no way of knowing what actually feels good. 

I have my bias towards Marquis, Hot Spring and Caldera as I either currently sell them or have in the past, but to say them along with Jacuzzi and Sundance are overpriced, I don’t think is an accurate statement.

I don’t honestly care what hot tub you buy, but your basing your opinion on specs, which mean nothing regarding quality and longevity.  Find me a 25 year old hot tub that still functions without being completely refurbished, it won’t be a Master Spa. 

Cuddlebug:
Yes I have wet tested jaccuzzi,marquis,bullfrog,Caldera,artesian and hot springs.did not see or feel any jetting that was impressive enough to justify prices.bullfrog was good but no feet jets and to replacing spa packs is expensive. Marquis and artesian were also good but not 10 to 12k good.haven't found anything inferior about a master spa compared to the others mentioned. I have read negative posts and reviews of master spas but also have read negative views and posts about every brand I have mentioned. I beleive if spa is well built with good parts that can be easily accessed from anywhere vs a spa that can only use their parts and are not as well built then to purchase would be asanine. Why do these companies build spas with proprietary parts in the first place? It isn't for the consumers benefit and that right there tells me their bottom line is their main concern not quality or customer servic. I have  read many posts and reviews from many dealers who seem to genuinely care about their product and customer service and can't understand why some others would carry a product with inferior build,jetting,insulation and parts except to screw consumer for money. And maybe posting negative reviews and comments about companies that put money into spa and don't use proprietary parts which ultimately screws consumer.

Spatech_tuo:

--- Quote from: Cuddlebug on September 07, 2018, 03:54:02 pm ---Yes I have wet tested jaccuzzi,marquis,bullfrog,Caldera,artesian and hot springs.did not see or feel any jetting that was impressive enough to justify prices.bullfrog was good but no feet jets and to replacing spa packs is expensive. Marquis and artesian were also good but not 10 to 12k good.haven't found anything inferior about a master spa compared to the others mentioned. I have read negative posts and reviews of master spas but also have read negative views and posts about every brand I have mentioned. I beleive if spa is well built with good parts that can be easily accessed from anywhere vs a spa that can only use their parts and are not as well built then to purchase would be asanine. Why do these companies build spas with proprietary parts in the first place? It isn't for the consumers benefit and that right there tells me their bottom line is their main concern not quality or customer service. I have  read many posts and reviews from many dealers who seem to genuinely care about their product and customer service and can't understand why some others would carry a product with inferior build,jetting,insulation and parts except to screw consumer for money. And maybe posting negative reviews and comments about companies that put money into spa and don't use proprietary parts which ultimately screws consumer.

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Whats inferior is the company itself and I'd have trouble believing their dealer network is worth much because most long term well schooled dealer avoids them like the plague I'm sure! No on here is going to make a penny off you when they try to give you advice and you have a forum full of pros who are NOT steering you toward a particular brand in a self-serving manner but instead are simply warning you against the one particular brand you seem to have honed in on and that doesn't concern you? Go right ahead, use your experience to tell you what is best out here.

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