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Another Newbie, Another question. Something a bit different - water changes?
Spatech_tuo:
--- Quote from: Michael Russell on September 24, 2018, 02:04:08 pm ---Hey Spatech..
Taking the HotUni guys Pimping of Master away from the videos I think there is a lot of value to what he does. That said he is a hardcore pimp for Master
Is there specific things you do not like about Master? This is just me trying to educate myself.
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I'm sure it works for the 95% who can't see that its all based on the agenda that Master does everything the right way (much of it is subtle the way he leads people along). He certainly is knowledgeable but Master is a middling quality product from a manufacturer you can NOT trust. Put him with a good product and those videos would have more value.
No one here is saying "buy brand Y instead" so we're not doing what he is doing which is to steer you to 1 single brand.
We're saying "buy any one of these dozen other options instead".
swilly1000:
I totally bought into what Chris had to say. My TS 8.25 is being delivered Wednesday and I can't wait.
I'm also interested in exactly why so many people think Master is mid-tier. Lots of talk, little specifics compared to other "top" and unnamed brands.
Hottubguy:
--- Quote from: silversun on September 24, 2018, 03:41:47 pm ---Sure, he may be a shill for Master, but I think most consumers are smart enough to recognize this early on and discount some of this information. But people are listening to him because he's one of the few clear voices in a very opaque, muddled industry.
I find his videos valuable and entertaining, and still subscribe to his site 13 months after my purchase (I didn't buy a master). He does have a lot of good knowledge about hot tubs, and if taken with a grain of salt can be valuable.
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See I disagree with that. He does have a lot of knowledge about Master Spas. But other then that he spits out a bunch of half truths on other brands. I’ve read through a number of articles on his site. He has actually referred my company to someone on his site. The other company he recommends in my area is quite possibly the scummiest spa dealer I have ever met and he claims he is one of the best dealers around. One of his HTU all star dealers. He is what he is a Master Spa dealer who sells tubs out of his house in Canada. I hope Master Spa is compensating him well for running that site because that’s about the only good press they get.
Hottubguy:
--- Quote from: swilly1000 on September 24, 2018, 11:02:08 pm ---I totally bought into what Chris had to say. My TS 8.25 is being delivered Wednesday and I can't wait.
I'm also interested in exactly why so many people think Master is mid-tier. Lots of talk, little specifics compared to other "top" and unnamed brands.
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Cheapest cabinets I have ever seen
One of the loudest tubs to run I have ever heard.
Energy efficiency is lacking.
Manufacturer themselves are next to impossible to deal with.
They come into my area probably 3-4 times a year and I’m guessing they sell a decent amount of tubs. The people that come in think they got a $20,000 hot tub for !6000 until they realize what exactly they got. Most of these customers are also under the impression that there run is chemical free because of the bozo that sold the tub.
They aren’t a terrible tub but there are at least a dozen better options out there
swilly1000:
Sounds like another pi**ed dealer whose business is being taken by the road shows. To be honest, the company's "dishonest sales practices" don't mean s**t to me. I'm a consumer not the dealer whose territory is being infringed upon. I care about a well made high performance therapy tub, not how the company decides to penetrate it's markets.
Too bad we couldn't filter out the "reviews" of biased stakeholders and just hear from end users about their experiences.
The fake and/or biased reviews about Master just further underscore what a nonsensical and cloudy market hot tubs are. The pricing game in this market is shameful. The reviews are unreliable. Total minefield for the consumer.
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