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Another Newbie, Another question. Something a bit different - water changes?
Spatech_tuo:
--- Quote from: Michael Russell on September 24, 2018, 12:24:22 pm ---HotTubUniversity guy loves them..
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He's a shill for the brand, don't get sucked in by his videos.
Michael Russell:
Hey Spatech..
Taking the HotUni guys Pimping of Master away from the videos I think there is a lot of value to what he does. That said he is a hardcore pimp for Master
Is there specific things you do not like about Master? This is just me trying to educate myself.
castletonia:
--- Quote from: Michael Russell on September 24, 2018, 12:24:22 pm ---I have reservations about the Master due to distance.. Seems like there is a lot of dislike for the Master brand on this forum. Anyone willing to share some insight? HotTubUniversity guy loves them.. The only thing I have heard from one repair guy, is that he has repaired a bunch of leaks on them....
I did a wet test in a the Marquis Epic Yesterday. Enjoyed. The jets were not as strong as I expected but was very nice still. Dealer says the Filters need to be cleaned and will pickup pressure once done. Not sure how much of a difference it would make. It did feel great though after slugging 3 yards of gravel and 20 patio stones.
Will try and squeeze a wet test in the Artisian, likely not for a couple weeks. Not ideal but so be it.
Thoughts on Artisian of Marquis? The Artisian Grand Bahama lists 1x6BHP and 3x3BHP pumps plus a Circ pump a believe. The Marquis is 2 pumps (2x6bhp I believe) with no Circ. Master I believe would be the same 2x6bhp.
Thoughts?
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Brake horsepower means nothing. In my opinion, horsepower means nothing. You have to take into account the jets that are being powered, how much plumbing there is and how well engineered the plumbing design is. Too much power is not a good thing. The Marquis is 2HP continuous. Generally, whenever you see BHP, cut that number in 1/2, maybe even a little more.
Hot Tub University guy is a Master dealer. Take anything he says with a grain of salt. Most of the negative you hear about Master Spas is due to the questionable ethics they have, that their prices are extremely inflated and that they position themselves as premium when they are not. I think their filtration is gimmicky in that it is no different than a Nature2, their cabinets are the lowest cost possible, and I think their therapy, like many other mid-tier manufacturers, is designed to be spec impressive vs designed for optimal benefit. If they were priced appropriately and you had a reputable dealer, they could be fine, but I personally think there are too many other reputable manufacturers to choose from.
silversun:
Sure, he may be a shill for Master, but I think most consumers are smart enough to recognize this early on and discount some of this information. But people are listening to him because he's one of the few clear voices in a very opaque, muddled industry.
I find his videos valuable and entertaining, and still subscribe to his site 13 months after my purchase (I didn't buy a master). He does have a lot of good knowledge about hot tubs, and if taken with a grain of salt can be valuable.
Michael Russell:
Well said Silversun...
--- Quote from: silversun on September 24, 2018, 03:41:47 pm ---Sure, he may be a shill for Master, but I think most consumers are smart enough to recognize this early on and discount some of this information. But people are listening to him because he's one of the few clear voices in a very opaque, muddled industry.
I find his videos valuable and entertaining, and still subscribe to his site 13 months after my purchase (I didn't buy a master). He does have a lot of good knowledge about hot tubs, and if taken with a grain of salt can be valuable.
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