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new member with a few quick questions before purchase
HT34:
Thank you so much MarKee for all of your help. I really do appreciate it.
Anything else that anyone can add, I would greatly appreciate it. We are looking to buy soon.
Thanks.
HT34:
Has anyone else heard about Marquis discontinuing most of their eSeries line? I heard they are only making the 750 and 1 other tub....i forgot which one. Did anybody hear this, too? If so, does anyone know if there are any plans to cut the entire line? Just wondering if this was true or a rumor.
castletonia:
It wouldn’t surprise me. The e-series has been around for awhile and in my opinion needs a refresh. It looks like the new Celebrity Elite series is going to be the replacement. Unfortunately though, I don’t have inside information to confirm. Parts will still be available and Marquis is a reputable company so I wouldn’t be worried about it and I wouldn’t let that deter me if I was looking at an e-series.
glancyoaks:
I have learned more reading these posts than two days of misdirection and confusing info at the local dealer. THANKS! I have been debating between the Reward and the V84 - Does anyone have any opinion on the strength (output) of the jets in the Reward (w/ it's 3 hot zones) versus the output of the jets in the V84? I am looking for directed power at my bad left ankle, bad left mid-back, and bad rebuilt left shoulder. Art
MarKee:
HT34: E-Series is going away (probably by year end) and there will only be Celebrity, Celebrity Elite, Vector21, and Signature Series. Celebrity Elite is the replacement for the E-Series, and built very similar. Vector21 is also the same construction, warranty, components as the E-Series and Celebrity Elite for the most part, just with some looks and jetting differences.
If you do get an E-Series, I would not be worried about being able to get parts in the future. I’ve sold these spas for 14 years now, and can think of only a few times where I haven’t been able to get a part on an older spa (and that was usually a Marquis from the 80s). Furthermore, Marquis uses very reliable Balboa components which are readily available, which keeps prices down and further reduces the chance of a part becoming obsolete.
glancyoaks: Sorry you have had a tough time with your local dealer, hopefully you can overcome the differences with the dealer or find another dealer nearby if a Marquis is what you want.
Here is a quick comparison of Signature vs Vector21 series:
-Signature has DuraBase pan bottom, Vector has sealed poly sheet plastic bottom
-Signature has DuraWood exterior (similar to Trex deck material), Vector has more of the industry standard synthetic cabinet material.
-Same pumps on Signature and Vector. On a 2 pump system, therapy will be very good in both series.
-Signature Cover has a 2lb density foam core with middle heat seal, Vector has a 1.5lb density foam core with middle heat seal. Both covers will insulate well.
-Signature comes standard with Corona Discharge Ozone System and SpaFrog cartridge system, these are optional add-one for Vector
-Signature will have the H.O.T. Zone jets, Vector has unique jet pods that come in different varieties.
-Signature will have a color screen control panel, Vector will have a simpler digital control that has most of the same functionality.
-Signature comes standard with full foam, Vector has foam-over insulation which is what a lot of companies consider to be full foam. Full foam can be added for a small fee to the Vector, but I wouldn’t recommend it in Sacramento. It saves a few dollars a month in moderate climates.
-Foot geyser Jets will be very similar in both series, just a different look.
-Both series have LED lighting and water features standard, both series have optional upgraded lighting that adds more interior LEDs, and also exterior LED lighting.
-Internal equipment area of Signature has a cleaner look with a decorative shrowd, in the Vector equipment area you will see insulation, plumbing, etc like 98% of other spas on the market.
-Signature allows jets to be isolated to certain areas of the body, Vector allows you to isolate power to certain seats. Vector allows every jet and seat to run at once, Signature will not run every jet at once, but can run some of the jets in every seat at once if you are entertaining with a large group.
-5 year equipment/plumbing warranty on Signature, 3 year equipment/plumbing warranty on Vector.
With all of that being said, both series are very nice. Sometimes we have people try out both series and prefer the Vector jets. Therapy will be great in both series, and probably quite a bit better than the current Sovereign (which is a 1 jet pump system if I’m not mistaken). If you want higher seating, have you considered the Wish model? The V84 would be a good option in the Vector series for higher seats on one side. Good luck in your search.
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