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help me narrow down my list!!
StBlGT:
Thank you for your reply.
It seems Marquis doesn't use circ pumps either. Maybe an add-on option..not sure? But it looks like about half of my list might not have a circ pump as an option. I will have to call my Marquis dealer and see.
The Wizard of Spas:
If I was trying to sell a circulation pump: "Circ pumps take your filter, ozone and heater into its own loop, freeing up your first pump away from the heater bottle neck and delivering more flow. Circulation pumps are approx. 1/2 amp and are more energy efficient. Furthermore- The first pump, which is the heating pump when no circ pump is on a tub- gets worn down by the start-stop action, degrading its lifespan, as pump 1 is the most replaced pump on the tub. Many say that circ pumps fail, but if you don't have one, your first pump will fail just as fast if you don't take care of the water, or if you have an inferior pump brand. And finally- it runs 3-3.5 amps when its heating- not near as efficient."
If I was not trying to sell a circulation pump: "Circ pumps are another part. And another part that can fail. Circ pumps save energy you say? Tell me what the tangible savings are? Circ pumps cost more b/c its not something that is just put on for free, so tell me what the charge is for the circ pump, then subtract the savings: Are you still ahead on this deal? Also- Why do you need a circ pump? Is it b/c the guy who sells it? Oh course he'd say that...."
So on, so forth.
I work for a manufacturer who builds tubs with and without circulation pumps. In my opinion- and this is only me and to not besmirch anyone else, as I respect other contributors to this site highly- the circulation pump argument boils down to if the salesperson carries that on their tub or not. I can see both ways and both have valid points. Its really up to whatever you value in a tub.
But that is my sole opinion and isn't any better or more informed than others who are in the industry.
castletonia:
Circulation pumps are not necessary. That being said, they are quieter, more energy efficient, and since they relieve the main jet pump of its circulating duties, it should extend the life of that jet pump.
The Caldera Vanto does not have one. If you moved up to a Paradise series Caldera, then you would get one. None of the Marquis' do and its not optional either. I wouldn't let the circulation pump be a deciding factor at this point. Find a few hot tubs that might work for you and dealers you can trust. If all things equal, then I would consider the circulation pump as a possible deal breaker.
Sam:
I agree with all that is said above. The thing that swings it in favor of having a circ pump for me is the fact that if you have an ozone or UV system, it is only functioning when the spa is filtering. That would be 24 hours a day when you have a circ pump and as little as 4 hours per day when you don't. Combine that with the fact that they are silent, which also means if you have a waterfall you can operate it off the circ pump and enjoy the sounds of the waterfall by itself without pump noise and the decision is easy. I like sitting in the hot water with the jets off and the trickle of the waterfall for part of my soaking time.
StBlGT:
Thanks, all.
I am hopefully going tomorrow or Saturday to look at the tubs again and talk to the dealers of the Marquis and Artesian. I am leaning towards one of those 2 right now...Bullfrog is close, but right now in 3rd.
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