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New to Hot Tubs: Top Reliable Brands?
pwjoshua:
We are also looking at hot tubs. I have heard that Saratoga is a good brand, but it wasn't mentioned at all in this thread. Any thoughts?
d00nut:
--- Quote from: jtd1216 on April 13, 2018, 01:20:20 pm ---Thank you Wizard. Care to offer any cons of the manufacturer you work for and pros from the brands you don't???? :) That ought to be mighty unbiased!
That's Mexico vs. USA is not a huge priority for me. I don't mind spreading the love throughout the continent. China, that's another story.
I'd love some feedback from other as well, it might give me a good idea what I'm aiming for. For example, one company might be especially known for their energy efficiency, whereas one might be for their jets. I'd be able to prioritize those pros/cons based on my priorities!
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My biggest issue with the whole Mexico vs. USA thing, is the USA manufacturers act as if their quality is immensely superior to the Mexican made stuff. That simply isn't the case. Great examples of this is all the garbage made in the USA... such as:
-Clearwater
-Almost everything out of Tennessee which includes: Dr. wellness, Laguana bay, Signature spas, etc
- Cal Spas... oh my gosh... Don't get me started on Cal
Not garbage, but certainly not top tier:
- Maax and Vita
- Strong Spas
- Master Spas (Company is garbage, spas are not all that bad ;))
The bottom line, is the "Made in USA" honestly has been completely and totally abused, not to the fault of great manufacturers such as Bullfrog, Artesian, and Marquis. Abused so much that manufacturers and dealers try to get consumers to make emotional "patriotic" decisions that have almost no merit in terms of how well the thing will perform over the next 10-15 years.
I love the USA... don't get me wrong. I also love my macbook pro I am writing this on. Which isn't built here btw ;) Go off quality, not off where it is made!
TO pwjoshua:
Saratoga makes a good hot tub. Not to much experience with it, however, I know some dealers that have and they have had good luck. I believe they do have different levels of insulation and stuff, so make sure you check that out.
Sam:
--- Quote from: d00nut on April 13, 2018, 04:23:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: jtd1216 on April 13, 2018, 01:20:20 pm ---Thank you Wizard. Care to offer any cons of the manufacturer you work for and pros from the brands you don't???? :) That ought to be mighty unbiased!
That's Mexico vs. USA is not a huge priority for me. I don't mind spreading the love throughout the continent. China, that's another story.
I'd love some feedback from other as well, it might give me a good idea what I'm aiming for. For example, one company might be especially known for their energy efficiency, whereas one might be for their jets. I'd be able to prioritize those pros/cons based on my priorities!
--- End quote ---
My biggest issue with the whole Mexico vs. USA thing, is the USA manufacturers act as if their quality is immensely superior to the Mexican made stuff. That simply isn't the case. Great examples of this is all the garbage made in the USA... such as:
-Clearwater
-Almost everything out of Tennessee which includes: Dr. wellness, Laguana bay, Signature spas, etc
- Cal Spas... oh my gosh... Don't get me started on Cal
Not garbage, but certainly not top tier:
- Maax and Vita
- Strong Spas
- Master Spas (Company is garbage, spas are not all that bad ;))
The bottom line, is the "Made in USA" honestly has been completely and totally abused, not to the fault of great manufacturers such as Bullfrog, Artesian, and Marquis. Abused so much that manufacturers and dealers try to get consumers to make emotional "patriotic" decisions that have almost no merit in terms of how well the thing will perform over the next 10-15 years.
I love the USA... don't get me wrong. I also love my macbook pro I am writing this on. Which isn't built here btw ;) Go off quality, not off where it is made!
TO pwjoshua:
Saratoga makes a good hot tub. Not to much experience with it, however, I know some dealers that have and they have had good luck. I believe they do have different levels of insulation and stuff, so make sure you check that out.
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Good post
The Wizard of Spas:
--- Quote from: d00nut on April 13, 2018, 04:23:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: jtd1216 on April 13, 2018, 01:20:20 pm ---Thank you Wizard. Care to offer any cons of the manufacturer you work for and pros from the brands you don't???? :) That ought to be mighty unbiased!
That's Mexico vs. USA is not a huge priority for me. I don't mind spreading the love throughout the continent. China, that's another story.
I'd love some feedback from other as well, it might give me a good idea what I'm aiming for. For example, one company might be especially known for their energy efficiency, whereas one might be for their jets. I'd be able to prioritize those pros/cons based on my priorities!
--- End quote ---
My biggest issue with the whole Mexico vs. USA thing, is the USA manufacturers act as if their quality is immensely superior to the Mexican made stuff. That simply isn't the case. Great examples of this is all the garbage made in the USA... such as:
-Clearwater
-Almost everything out of Tennessee which includes: Dr. wellness, Laguana bay, Signature spas, etc
- Cal Spas... oh my gosh... Don't get me started on Cal
Not garbage, but certainly not top tier:
- Maax and Vita
- Strong Spas
- Master Spas (Company is garbage, spas are not all that bad ;))
The bottom line, is the "Made in USA" honestly has been completely and totally abused, not to the fault of great manufacturers such as Bullfrog, Artesian, and Marquis. Abused so much that manufacturers and dealers try to get consumers to make emotional "patriotic" decisions that have almost no merit in terms of how well the thing will perform over the next 10-15 years.
I love the USA... don't get me wrong. I also love my macbook pro I am writing this on. Which isn't built here btw ;) Go off quality, not off where it is made!
TO pwjoshua:
Saratoga makes a good hot tub. Not to much experience with it, however, I know some dealers that have and they have had good luck. I believe they do have different levels of insulation and stuff, so make sure you check that out.
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So I get that. And that is a reasoned and rational response. In the spirit of that response, and with respect to you as I in no way think you're uninformed or otherwise not a knowledgeable poster with great insight, do you really fell that its just an emotional pitch or a quality pitch or both? That is just an honest question- Not trying to point-counter-point.
I think its not really a quality issue when relaying US vs Mexico. It seems to me that its more of a jobs (labor laws), economy (keeping money in the country), ecology thing (skirting EPA laws). But I never looked at it from your point of view and hence the "ask". But then that could be an emotional sale. Who knows. I just like hearing about these things from others.
But for fun: You don't have an option to buy an american-made computer so that analogy doesn't work :) [that was totally bratty of me]
[EDIT: SPELLING & CLARIFICATION]
Tman122:
All of the highest quality electronics come from......................
This can be said for a lot of things. It's the processes and the companies that make a good product not the location of manufacturing.
The best ammunition in the world is made in the USA. It also cost the most.
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