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meriflower:

--- Quote from: Sam on February 06, 2018, 02:20:12 pm ---Manufacturers don't offer salt because they've tested them and seen corrosion.  I've spoken with multiple factory reps who've said this.  I've seen firsthand quite a few people on salt systems have corroded heaters.  I'm not sure what you're doing differently.

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This below is quoted from Bullfrog Spas blog.  I had one in my previous spa I would not get one again.

“For those considering this option, here are a few things to keep in mind. Due to the salt, you’ll have to do an additional test each month to check the salinity of your hot tub. Because of the corrosive nature of saltwater and other factors, Bullfrog Spas expert Cyndi Blessing (who used an aftermarket saltwater system with her hot tub) wouldn’t recommend using a salt generation system. In her experience, she found that “it was actually harder to balance the water compared to a more traditional chlorine or bromine system.”
 
Todd Cossey, a seasoned spa technician at Bullfrog Spas, adds, “Quite a few dealers have installed aftermarket saltwater systems, and although they’re suppose to be great, they can get out of control fast and can damage the spa.”

bud16415:
I personally found bromine much harder than chlorine keeping my tub in balance, but I have read enough positive opinions of bromine to know I don’t know all I might think I know on the subject.

There is a multitude of opinions on everything in the world and reading blogs are no different.

I wish people would support their opinions with detailed facts. Like I said my water chemistry was bouncing like a yoyo with bromine. I’m sure some with salt have issues as well but I doubt it was the salt as if it was salt wouldn’t be used by anyone. What does “Corrosive Nature” mean. Water has a  “Corrosive Nature” also. They say it can “damage the tub” but in what way.

As far as I can tell the biggest problem with salt tubs is replacement of the anode unit and they seem overly high priced not user changeable easily and short life. The after market unit I’m looking at seems to have solved those problems.

Can someone post a photo of a ruined part caused by salt damage or a side by side comparison of part A with salt and part B without in hot tub usage. Something that would say this isn’t being called a bad thing because there is a huge amount of tubs designed around bromine and chlorine not to mentioned the sales of these products compared to cheep salt.

Seem like there should be facts not just opinions.     

BullFrogSpasMN:

--- Quote from: meriflower on February 11, 2018, 01:46:32 am ---
--- Quote from: Sam on February 06, 2018, 02:20:12 pm ---Manufacturers don't offer salt because they've tested them and seen corrosion.  I've spoken with multiple factory reps who've said this.  I've seen firsthand quite a few people on salt systems have corroded heaters.  I'm not sure what you're doing differently.

--- End quote ---

This below is quoted from Bullfrog Spas blog.  I had one in my previous spa I would not get one again.

“For those considering this option, here are a few things to keep in mind. Due to the salt, you’ll have to do an additional test each month to check the salinity of your hot tub. Because of the corrosive nature of saltwater and other factors, Bullfrog Spas expert Cyndi Blessing (who used an aftermarket saltwater system with her hot tub) wouldn’t recommend using a salt generation system. In her experience, she found that “it was actually harder to balance the water compared to a more traditional chlorine or bromine system.”
 
Todd Cossey, a seasoned spa technician at Bullfrog Spas, adds, “Quite a few dealers have installed aftermarket saltwater systems, and although they’re suppose to be great, they can get out of control fast and can damage the spa.”

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keep an eye on their website, that info will be gone, can't say anymore than that right now...Not gonna argue about it anymore, I've been selling salt systems since 2004, I have more experience with saltwater (in real life applications in pools and hot tubs, not using Google or listening to a 'Rep') than probably anyone who has an account on this entire website, it works, it makes me more money, it makes the company more money, it sells more hot-tubs, and it offers more customers who have skin irritation the ability to buy and use a hot tub with overall lower maintenance.  This will be by final comments on it, I hope you all enjoy your Sunday! Keep Hot Tubbin!

Sam:

--- Quote from: Cora5 on February 10, 2018, 06:05:08 pm ---The debate continues.... Keep it up guys, let's get to the bottom of this once and for all. What's really going on here.

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God forbid people discuss hot tub water chemistry on a hot tub discussion forum. 



Back to the discussion; We used to sell the Genesis aftermarket salt system and the people who had that installed had a significantly higher rate of heater failures than the people who used traditional programs.  I don't claim causation necessarily, but there is indeed a correlation.  I've seen it first hand.  I've also had people with multiple failed heaters switch back from salt to another program and their problems disappeared. 

In the end, I don't really care one way or another.  I'm interested in the debate and willing to change my opinion.  BullfrogspasMN certainly makes a compelling argument and seems to be a knowledgeable guy, hence my participation in this thread.

meriflower:

--- Quote from: BullFrogSpasMN on February 11, 2018, 03:24:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: meriflower on February 11, 2018, 01:46:32 am ---
--- Quote from: Sam on February 06, 2018, 02:20:12 pm ---Manufacturers don't offer salt because they've tested them and seen corrosion.  I've spoken with multiple factory reps who've said this.  I've seen firsthand quite a few people on salt systems have corroded heaters.  I'm not sure what you're doing differently.

--- End quote ---

This below is quoted from Bullfrog Spas blog.  I had one in my previous spa I would not get one again.

“For those considering this option, here are a few things to keep in mind. Due to the salt, you’ll have to do an additional test each month to check the salinity of your hot tub. Because of the corrosive nature of saltwater and other factors, Bullfrog Spas expert Cyndi Blessing (who used an aftermarket saltwater system with her hot tub) wouldn’t recommend using a salt generation system. In her experience, she found that “it was actually harder to balance the water compared to a more traditional chlorine or bromine system.”
 
Todd Cossey, a seasoned spa technician at Bullfrog Spas, adds, “Quite a few dealers have installed aftermarket saltwater systems, and although they’re suppose to be great, they can get out of control fast and can damage the spa.”

--- End quote ---

keep an eye on their website, that info will be gone, can't say anymore than that right now...Not gonna argue about it anymore, I've been selling salt systems since 2004, I have more experience with saltwater (in real life applications in pools and hot tubs, not using Google or listening to a 'Rep') than probably anyone who has an account on this entire website, it works, it makes me more money, it makes the company more money, it sells more hot-tubs, and it offers more customers who have skin irritation the ability to buy and use a hot tub with overall lower maintenance.  This will be by final comments on it, I hope you all enjoy your Sunday! Keep Hot Tubbin!

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I had a BF with the very same system you sell and it does make you a lot of money.  I know at the BF factory they have one of their spas running Blu Fusion.  No offense but you’re out to sell, market and spin, once the sale is done customers talk to your service person.  For the record I have owned spas since 2005 plus maintained both fresh and salt water aquariums even longer. 

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