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Master Spa Twilight 8.2 Pricing
castletonia:
If the company (corporate) allows sleazy dealers, what does that say about the company? If you cannot be honest during the sales presentation, what else are you lying about?
Master Spa is not a garbage product. They are also not a premium product. They use confer cabinets which are inexpensive, flimsy, and have a tendency to warp. Their insulation is less than other premium brands. In the past they used low quality cover manufacturers that had poor longevity. I believe they make their own covers now and its too early to tell if they are decent or not. Fit and finish (not the finished product was assembled) is lacking for product that wants to make people believe they are high end. Their components are all off the shelf Balboa products. Balboa makes high end and budget products and from my perspective it appears Master is using the middle tier and entry level. Their shell designs to me appear somewhat cookie cutter meaning they are not much if at all different from a few other manufacturers indicating that instead of designing their own, they are settling for someone else's design to save money.
In my opinion, Master Spa is similar in quality to Maax, Dynasty, Cal Spas, Clearwater, and Premium Leisure. Of those 5, only Master and Cal get much hate and it has to do with how they run their company and market their product. To those that complain that this is not a transparent industry, by large you have Master Spas and Cal Spas to thank for that.
castletonia:
--- Quote from: swilly1000 on November 01, 2018, 05:43:20 pm ---Be specific. And not about duct tape. This a hot tub.
Insulation is full foam iceyene. Is it really full foam? Have you removed the sides and its tight to the cabinet? What are others doing that's better?
Controller and heating system is Balboa. What version of Balboa? They make good and economical. Just because it's Balboa doesn't make it automatically good. What are others doing that's better?
Jets are Waterways (may recently have changed to CMP) mid and high flow. And two of the huge 10" jets for the feet. Virtually none of those crappy little low flow 2" jets. What are others doing that's better?
My tub has twin 6hp pumps. No it doesn't. Unless those motors are pulling 16+ amps, their not 6HP, and horsepower doesn't matter. It's about feel. What are others doing that's better?
The shell is hand rolled vinyl esther resin self supporting. Its about thickness and how good a job was done in manufacturing. Shell also will rarely be an issue. I've had one bad shell in the last 15 years. What are others doing that's better?
I pulled the skirt off mine a few times. It didn't feel or look cheap to me. What are others doing that's better?
I only wet tested one other brand....a Marquis Vector. The massage performance felt virtually the same as mine. I will concede that my experience is limited and I look forward to getting into other brand tubs to test my theory. My main desire is the massage therapy so when I see tubs in show rooms that are loaded up with cheap low flow 2" jets they get immediately taken off my list. And even though I'm inexperienced, I have seen lots of those.
Would be most interested in hearing specifics, not vagaries.
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Spatech_tuo:
--- Quote from: swilly1000 on November 01, 2018, 05:43:20 pm ---
My tub has twin 6hp pumps. What are others doing that's better?
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6 HP pumps lol!
Reputable spa companies list continuous HP. Disreputable spa companies using those same pumps list only their brake HP because its an inflated number that tricks unassuming customers into thinking it has more power.
Tman122:
--- Quote from: swilly1000 on November 01, 2018, 05:43:20 pm ---Be specific. And not about duct tape. This a hot tub.
Insulation is full foam iceyene. What are others doing that's better?
Controller and heating system is Balboa. What are others doing that's better?
Jets are Waterways (may recently have changed to CMP) mid and high flow. And two of the huge 10" jets for the feet. Virtually none of those crappy little low flow 2" jets. What are others doing that's better?
My tub has twin 6hp pumps. What are others doing that's better?
The shell is hand rolled vinyl esther resin self supporting. What are others doing that's better?
I pulled the skirt off mine a few times. It didn't feel or look cheap to me. What are others doing that's better?
I only wet tested one other brand....a Marquis Vector. The massage performance felt virtually the same as mine. I will concede that my experience is limited and I look forward to getting into other brand tubs to test my theory. My main desire is the massage therapy so when I see tubs in show rooms that are loaded up with cheap low flow 2" jets they get immediately taken off my list. And even though I'm inexperienced, I have seen lots of those.
Would be most interested in hearing specifics, not vagaries.
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Would you like me to break this down line by line or was Cast's post enough?
I will hit one line, there is no such thing as a continuous 6 HP spa pump. You were lied to. But HP has absolutely nothing to do with feel.
kies1:
I tried to find the specs on their pumps in their website and all it says is two pumps. No mention what kind they are or how much horsepower. Brake horsepower compared to actual horsepower the pumps are putting out are two different things. If you look at certain manufacturers they list the true horsepower and what kind of pump it is not just stating two pumps. Some state actual horsepower but do not state what kind of pump and some do not list either. Obviously there is a reason why manufacturers do this, pretty easy to figure out why lol.
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