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Master Spa Twilight 8.2 Pricing

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bachman:

--- Quote from: Michael Russell on October 31, 2018, 08:21:11 am ---When I was looking at Master Spa a few weeks ago. I was tossed up between Master, Marquis and Artisian. It took some time to get some clear idea's as to why people here don't like Master. Most if not all of the items I think are now mostly taken care of... Other then the poor business practice of the company. There is a history of them not standing behind deals and rebates they have made.. All said that was a few years ago.

As far as quality, they seem to be pretty similar components as best as I could tell to the brands I referenced. Mind you I say that as an end user and no experience fixing tubs,.

Swilly just bought a Master here in Canada and should be able to share his price as well. Pricing I was getting was $12k, $300 for cover lifter. That was for a Twilight 8.25 or 8.2.

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That pricing sounds in line with what I rememeber mentioned on a HTU video. Chris of HTU was all excited about that model getting one for himself and even mentioned (what I'd guess was either MSRP or street price ?) at the time.

Since I know nothing about hot tubs firsthand, I'll just say that my impression of Master were Chris's bias or favorites, yet based on jets, insulation, motors, shell, glued and clamped and all the important things he touts -- I thought this series in the brand hit all those marks - - if that truly is some guarantee. IOW, did he build his pitch to fit Master or does Master build to hit the quality parameters ?

Also-
I wonder if the mix of brands and quality might result in some confusion simply because at each extreme, there are some good or even great built/designed tubs although represented in some cases by hawkers and slippery marketing types.
Then at the other end, mediocre to lower-end quality or technology designs represented by very nice looking store fronts or show rooms and professional upscale sales staff and advertising.
If so, it seems certain as a recipe for confusion and that being a goal in some "marketing", I can understand the heartburn and mistrust.

swilly1000:
I shared in another post that the dealer offered the 8.25 for $CDN12,995+HST, which included the stairs, delivery and start-up chemical kit. I asked for the cover lifter, WI-FI app and ABS pan to be thrown in and the dealer accepted.

swilly1000:
Apart from the price disclosure issue, I continue to be baffled by the hate-on for Master spas.  It strongly seems to me that their sales tactics are at the root of it.

Nowhere do I see specific examples of poor quality build or performance, only vague statements about them being mid-quality at best and that you can do better.  Give me specifics. There is something very fishy about these vagaries.

Call me selfish, but I don't care about their sales tactics.  If they are screwing their dealers by raiding their markets with tent sales, that's between them and their dealers.  I don't care.

If some of their dealers are unscrupulous and strong arm you then it's my job as the consumer to see through that when doing my due diligence. People are people and I suspect the presence of unethical dealers is no more prevalent with Masters than other brands. I don't care if there are unscrupulous dealers. 

What I do care about is associating myself with a good dealer and a good quality, high performance product.

The cynic in me is telling me that the hate-on is spawning fake reviews born out of resentment from being screwed around.  If I'm right it's pretty sad that disenchanted people are spreading malicious untruths about good product so that well-meaning consumers trying to sift through this murky market get misled and lied to in their search for a good tub.

I really like my tub so far and time will tell whether I made the right decision.  For now I feel like I did the due diligence and was rewarded for it. I get in my tub every night.  Apart from the amazing feel of the warm water and great jetting in my tub, a significant part of the enjoyment I'm getting every day stems from having done the research, including getting past the hate-on for Master.

Spatech_tuo:

--- Quote from: swilly1000 on November 01, 2018, 11:07:54 am ---
The cynic in me is telling me that the hate-on is spawning fake reviews born out of resentment from being screwed around.  If I'm right it's pretty sad that disenchanted people are spreading malicious untruths about good product so that well-meaning consumers trying to sift through this murky market get misled and lied to in their search for a good tub.


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You're obviously on to us! Our two part plan to 1-spread lies to defame Master on this site, 2-create fake reviews for customers to see is now out in the open.

You've foiled our dastardly plan just like Scooby and Shaggy did every Saturday morning!

kies1:
I noticed a difference in the silicone job around the lights, the panels are thinner etc. So me personally think Master Spa fit and finish is not as nice or ran than other brands I looked at. Just what I noticed when looking. This is from a consumer that looked at four different brands of tubs. I would not say Master the worst but definitly not the best and for what they were asking had a worse warranty as well. Not a hater just what I found. In the end you need to be happy with your choice as a consumer. If you are then enjoy and it really does not matter then what anyone else thinks. Make an educated decision that your happy with.

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