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Jacuzzi delivery on Friday. Chemicals for newbies?

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The Wizard of Spas:

--- Quote from: mpkelley20 on December 01, 2016, 09:46:32 am ---
--- Quote from: d00nut on November 30, 2016, 11:43:27 pm ---mpkelley20, I'm sure you are really careful, but as a reminder to everyone, using Muriatic Acid to replace dry acid is fine if you put it in your spa carefully.  It's easy to hurt yourself or your spa if you don't know what you are doing, otherwise, stick with Sodium Bisulfate.

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Awesome point!  I wish I was as careful with adding chlorine to my pool and spa as I am with MA.  I would have saved several pairs of pants and shorts from bleach spots! 

Actually have a question...one of the reasons I never used Sodium Bisulfate in my pool was because it leaves sulfates behind.  Based on what I read, over time, these build up and could possibly cause hard to plaster (if you have any in your pool) or salt water generator.  Does this cause an issue in a hot tub as well or does it not matter as long as you are changing your water every 3 months or so?

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I have never had issues with Sodium Bisulfate in the manner in which you speak.  I don't sell muriatic acid (its too difficult to get the special permit for us to be able to stock it) but that doesn't mean I do not recommend it in larger in ground pools.  So I am in no way against it.  I just know that there are many things you need to be careful with when using MA, as it can etch concrete, etc.

Plaster and other concrete pools need to have their calcium levels managed to protect their surfaces.  Metal deposits as well can form on any sort of surface but is easily dissolvable with the correct metal remover and pH/alk balance.

Salt generators get build up but that is usually just a formation of NaCl.  And a mixture of 1 part muriatic / 3-4 parts water for 15-20 mins dissolves it all and its good to go.

We build 50-75 new in ground pools and sell 50-100 hot tubs every year and each one gets a chemical kit with sodium bisulfate in it.  So I hope this alleviates your concerns with the product.

I hope this helps.  Good luck moving forward.

Calisoldier83:
I did go to the dealer last night and had an introduction to chemicals. They start-up kit that'll be providing includes only the:

Dichlor   
MPS Non-Chlorine
Test Strips - (Chlorine, Alkalinity, pH and Total Hardness)

I asked about the initial fill and he said that the water is fresh until after you initially go in, then that's when you start adding chemicals.

Next, he suggested the baking soda if the pH is too low. He said he's never experienced where the pH was too high. Maybe he mixed up and meant the alkalinity up for the baking soda.

Other than the products above he didn't suggest anything else. I told him I bought the Taylor K-2006 and it didn't sound like he was familiar.

It sounds like he provided some very basic procedures. It looks like I will need to do some homework since I don't understand how much of each product to add, except for the above. I'm assuming the Taylor handbook might give me an indication.

It sounds like I need to get me some Calcium.

Jacuzzi Jim:

--- Quote from: Calisoldier83 on December 01, 2016, 01:14:39 pm ---I did go to the dealer last night and had an introduction to chemicals. They start-up kit that'll be providing includes only the:

Dichlor   
MPS Non-Chlorine
Test Strips - (Chlorine, Alkalinity, pH and Total Hardness)

I asked about the initial fill and he said that the water is fresh until after you initially go in, then that's when you start adding chemicals.

Next, he suggested the baking soda if the pH is too low. He said he's never experienced where the pH was too high. Maybe he mixed up and meant the alkalinity up for the baking soda.

Other than the products above he didn't suggest anything else. I told him I bought the Taylor K-2006 and it didn't sound like he was familiar.

It sounds like he provided some very basic procedures. It looks like I will need to do some homework since I don't understand how much of each product to add, except for the above. I'm assuming the Taylor handbook might give me an indication.

It sounds like I need to get me some Calcium.

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  Sounds like your dealer is really up on things.   :'(      Dichlor good, shock good, test strips good.    I am surprised their kit doesn't contain more products.      I would get a PH/ALK increaser or just use baking soda like mentioned.  You also might ask them if they will give you a Jacuzzi brand or Nature 2 mineral cartridge to go in your filter, (similar to spa frog) if they even sell them or stock them?  Calcium is good to add but I wouldn't worry about it yet, I would also get a product called Defender by Leisure time.

  I will say try not to stress over the chemicals! 

mpkelley20:
Agreed. Don't stress over them.  They are easier than you think. 

baking soda is definitely used to raise your alkalinity.  Your PH will rise with it as well.  But if your alkalinity is in line, but PH is still low, you don't want to use anymore baking soda.  PH up or a household item like Borax will help you raise just your PH.

Did he mention anything about calcium?


And the Taylor kit you bought is probably one of the top rated kits you can buy.  Surprised he never heard of it.  The truly scientific "big bang theory" type pool people will only trust readings from this kit or ones from TFT (like the Tf-100). 

Calisoldier83:

--- Quote from: Jacuzzi Jim on December 01, 2016, 01:32:50 pm ---=
  Sounds like your dealer is really up on things.   :'(      Dichlor good, shock good, test strips good.    I am surprised their kit doesn't contain more products.      I would get a PH/ALK increaser or just use baking soda like mentioned.  You also might ask them if they will give you a Jacuzzi brand or Nature 2 mineral cartridge to go in your filter, (similar to spa frog) if they even sell them or stock them?  Calcium is good to add but I wouldn't worry about it yet, I would also get a product called Defender by Leisure time.

  I will say try not to stress over the chemicals!

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Yes, it comes with a mineral cartridge (silver ion). I thought that was standard. He also threw in a rubber ducky as promised along with a filter cleaning solution.

Defender need to look into that. What about the calcium is that something that you supplement?


--- Quote from: mpkelley20 on December 01, 2016, 02:51:09 pm ---Did he mention anything about calcium?

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Nothing specific about calcium other than there was build up sometimes at the water line.

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