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2013 Hot Springs Vanguard for $2500 -- Can This Possibly Be Legit?
wmccall:
--- Quote from: lderochi on March 02, 2014, 10:07:24 pm ---Hi,
Former hot tub owner who had to give it up due to an employment relocation, and I've been poking around looking for used or floor models for the new house. I'm trying to not spend too much, as I may have to move again in the next few years. Anyway, today I found this ebay listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOT-SPRING-VANGUARD-HOT-TUB-WSALTWATER-SYSTEM-MINT-CONDITION-/271414194483?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f318bf133
I've emailed the owner and he says it's a 2013 model, and he will ship it free. It's tempting, even without the ability to examine in advance. But I cannot believe somebody is selling a 2013 Vanguard PLUS shipping for $2500. I mean, I just can't imagine how that's feasible. Thoughts? I would be protected by the ebay guarantee if it ends up being a complete piece of crap, but still.
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FYI, I think I was offered a 2013 Vanguard without the salt system for about $8900 (subject to my questionable memory) The free shipping makes me extra suspicious. I could see someone giving a huge discount to just get rid of it if they paid cash and you could come get it.
wmccall:
--- Quote from: Isaac-1 on March 02, 2014, 10:32:13 pm ---I would say it is a scam, probably lifted the photo from a completed auction. It is a new ebay user (account created last week) with 0 feedback, also he is asking you to contact him outside of ebay's message system before bidding.
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I just had a casual look at they Ebay entry and while I didn't see the part about contacting outside of Ebay, that is a definite no-no for Ebay. Very suspicious.
I went back and saw the contact outside. Didn't Ebay use to have a REPORT AUCTION function?
Ryan VSO:
--- Quote from: rosewoodsteel on March 03, 2014, 10:32:19 am ---
--- Quote from: Ryan VSO on March 02, 2014, 11:51:09 pm ---if he makes the pruchase through ebay he is covered , you can exchange emails through ebay ... just makesure you pay via paypal and that you purchase it on ebay .
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Ryan, I wouldn't depend on Ebay or PayPal to help me. They are concerned with making money on their sales, and have little concern with actually helping folks if things go wrong. At least, that has been my experience with them.
Stay away from the "deal too good to be true". Scammers have been known to highjack good accounts (with great positive feedback histories) and peddle them as their own. If you want to do a deal on Ebay, ask the seller to send you a few photographs of the item together with the front page of his local newspaper, with the date clearly visible.
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We sell on ebay and if you dont deliver in their timeframe , doesnt ship the item or doesnt respect your return policy , they refund the custumer credit card , take the money from your bank account and even if the seller doesnt have any funds , the custumer will get his money back. Since we have to give a return policy wich dealers wont , its actually safer buying on ebay than buying from a dealer . Ebay and paypal changed alot in the last 2 years , havent seen the ad, if it require you to go outside ebay then yah it is probably scam , at that price he could of simply post it for free on a classified website and it would be gone in the hours
rosewoodsteel:
Of course, if this was a hi jacked account and the buyer went "outside" of ebay to do the deal. He would be screwed. Honest sellers like yourself are what Ebay should be all about.
Ryan VSO:
--- Quote from: lderochi on March 02, 2014, 10:07:24 pm ---Hi,
Former hot tub owner who had to give it up due to an employment relocation, and I've been poking around looking for used or floor models for the new house. I'm trying to not spend too much, as I may have to move again in the next few years. Anyway, today I found this ebay listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOT-SPRING-VANGUARD-HOT-TUB-WSALTWATER-SYSTEM-MINT-CONDITION-/271414194483?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f318bf133
I've emailed the owner and he says it's a 2013 model, and he will ship it free. It's tempting, even without the ability to examine in advance. But I cannot believe somebody is selling a 2013 Vanguard PLUS shipping for $2500. I mean, I just can't imagine how that's feasible. Thoughts? I would be protected by the ebay guarantee if it ends up being a complete piece of crap, but still.
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Maybe the Moderator Could compare the IP of this member to the one you received by emails ... To me , he put alot of effort in his tittle and he seems to like to CAPS the first letter of each word just like in the ebay ad , I would suspect this guy to promote his sale through the forum or another crazy way by HS to put another Hs topic in the forum :P
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